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Chapter 94 - FA'NSAB portion/share/rise

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    Raaajah
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    This is the Open Burhan translation here which is similar to Ali I think, but they all are similar in that the breast was expanded and a burden removed which did 'gall' the back, this is what made me think on these 3 verses.

    Anyone who has had gallstones will know the pain is in the back, directly opposite the breast bone and like a heavy weight of extreme pain and that to remove a gall bladder to relieve this pain is done by going into the chest area. removal of gall bladder and/or stones is the ONLY relief, appart from large doses of Pethadine which I dont think were available then

    Just something to think about

    So what is the conclusion?

    Allah mentions in the Quran about gallstones that Muhammad had rotfl

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      Mazhar
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      Did We not for you expand/kept content and tranquil the heart/chest of you
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      and We have since laid off from you the burden of yours,
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      which was heavily placed on your back/self;
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      and We have since raised high for you the mention/remembrance/repute of you .

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      For reason indeed along with the difficulty/trouble/harshness there is the convenience/solace;
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      Certainly along with the difficulty/trouble/harshness/distress there is the convenience/solace.
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      Therefore when you have accomplished thereby keep it prominent,
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      and towards your Sustainer Lord thereby you keep attentive.

      Surat-94

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        san
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        So what is the conclusion?

        Allah mentions in the Quran about gallstones that Muhammad had rotfl

        people are free to give opinions in this forum, eh?

        look at other posters in this thread, they chose not to troll and instead add something to the thread.

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          Ayisha
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          and We have since laid off from you the burden of yours,
          which was heavily placed on your back/self;

          I disagree. There were many messengers that undertook delivering Gods message and your translation of this, which is unlike all the others, is saying he is now relieved of it, was this the last and final verse revealed?

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            san
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            Peace all,

            Here's my simple, common everyday English translation of chapter 94

            Haven't We opened up your chest,
            and We lifted from you your burden,
            that had broken your back?
            And We raised up for you your dignity.

            Then indeed, with the hardship, ease
            Really, with the hardship, ease

            Then whenever you are freed, then set upright!
            And to your Sustainer, then hope!

            I chose to translate AnSab/InSab as "set upright", as in "setting up/erecting stones for a mark/sign". This is the most basic/most readily comprehensible meaning of this word, imo, which suits the context perfectly.

            "... fa'nSab and "... fa'rGab "

            the latter, which i translated as "hope", is actually closer to desire/wish/longing, i.e. a very deep feeling of longing in one's self.

            Thus, the most basic pictures of "AnSab"/"set upright", e.g., the erect/standing "up" posture, the "up"lifted spirit or condition, which are so obviously analagous to the lifting up of one's burden and the raising of one's dignity, is further aligned, as a suggestion, with a very deep feeling of longing toward one's Sustainer.

            Then whenever you are freed, then set upright!
            And to your Sustainer, then hope!

            Then again, we're used to the term "milestone" which is more or less a marking/sign of progress and direction, i.e. where one is going and how far/close he is to where he is going to. Suppose the above meaning ("setting up" of stones for a mark/sign) is indeed the most accurate meaning for AnSab, then the "picture" of the end of chapter 94 could also be seen as, "when you are set free (or feel "free/freed&quot, then set marks/progress/goals/targets along the road/journey (i.e. life) toward your ultimate desire/wish that is your own Sustainer".

            Then whenever you are freed, then set upright!
            And to your Sustainer, then hope (wish/desire)!

            And this is a pretty straightforward observation, i think.

            Peace

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              Ayisha
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              Peace all,

              Here's my simple, common everyday English translation of chapter 94

              Haven't We opened up your chest,
              and We lifted from you your burden,
              that had broken your back?
              And We raised up for you your dignity.

              Then indeed, with the hardship, ease
              Really, with the hardship, ease

              Then whenever you are freed, then set upright!
              And to your Sustainer, then hope!

              I chose to translate AnSab/InSab as "set upright", as in "setting up/erecting stones for a mark/sign". This is the most basic/most readily comprehensible meaning of this word, imo, which suits the context perfectly.

              "... fa'nSab and "... fa'rGab "

              the latter, which i translated as "hope", is actually closer to desire/wish/longing, i.e. a very deep feeling of longing in one's self.

              Thus, the most basic pictures of "AnSab"/"set upright", e.g., the erect/standing "up" posture, the "up"lifted spirit or condition, which are so obviously analagous to the lifting up of one's burden and the raising of one's dignity, is further aligned, as a suggestion, with a very deep feeling of longing toward one's Sustainer.

              Then whenever you are freed, then set upright!
              And to your Sustainer, then hope!

              Then again, we're used to the term "milestone" which is more or less a marking/sign of progress and direction, i.e. where one is going and how far/close he is to where he is going to. Suppose the above meaning ("setting up" of stones for a mark/sign) is indeed the most accurate meaning for AnSab, then the "picture" of the end of chapter 94 could also be seen as, "when you are set free (or feel "free/freed&quot, then set marks/progress/goals/targets along the road/journey (i.e. life) toward your ultimate desire/wish that is your own Sustainer".

              Then whenever you are freed, then set upright!
              And to your Sustainer, then hope (wish/desire)!

              And this is a pretty straightforward observation, i think.

              Peace

              During the pain given by gallstone one cannot be 'upright' in a physical sense and neither can they be after removal of the gallbladder until you are free or eased of the pain of recovering.

              I am not saying this IS what its about, but it seemed to hit a right spot with me when I read it, having been through that pain myself which is like a heavy weight on the back and removed through the chest.

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                san
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                Of course, Ayisha, i can easily imagine many people who were heavily burdened with a condition at some point in their life, then eventually were set free. Ease that comes with hardship -- just about any person can experience this.

                The principles/patterns are universal and so wide, that i think it is a shame for people to put this chapter into a tiny little boxed scenario.

                Let people "have" Quran, please.

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                  Mazhar
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                  and We have since laid off from you the burden of yours,
                  which was heavily placed on your back/self;

                  I disagree. There were many messengers that undertook delivering Gods message and your translation of this, which is unlike all the others, is saying he is now relieved of it, was this the last and final verse revealed?

                  http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/059.%20Al%20Hashr/59.21p.gif
                  Had We caused this Grand Qur'aan to descend upon a mountain
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                  you would have certainly seen it in a state of humbling and causing itself perforated for the fear of Allah.
                  http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/059.%20Al%20Hashr/59.21a.gif
                  And such are the similitude We quote/strike/emerge/surface for the people so that they consciously incline to objectively reflect/contemplate/deeply and honestly ponder.

                  Surat 59

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                    Mazhar
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                    And majority never tries to get out out of their self assumed perceptions and read the Ayat in conjunction despite have been referred.

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                    You, the Messenger pronounce for everyone, "You people listen and affectionately and wholeheartedly accept the words of Allah and You people listen and affectionately and wholeheartedly accept the words of the Messenger "
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                    In response, if you people turned away without paying heed
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                    since/then upon him is only that burden which is assigned to him and upon you people is that burden of responsibility which is laden upon you people.

                    Surat An Noor-24

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                      Ayisha
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                      http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/059.%20Al%20Hashr/59.21p.gif
                      Had We caused this Grand Qur'aan to descend upon a mountain
                      http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/059.%20Al%20Hashr/59.21q.gif
                      you would have certainly seen it in a state of humbling and causing itself perforated for the fear of Allah.
                      http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/059.%20Al%20Hashr/59.21a.gif
                      And such are the similitude We quote/strike/emerge/surface for the people so that they consciously incline to objectively reflect/contemplate/deeply and honestly ponder.

                      Surat 59

                      sorry not quite sure what you point is here

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                        Ayisha
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                        And majority never tries to get out out of their self assumed perceptions and read the Ayat in conjunction despite have been referred.

                        http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/024.%20An%20Noor/Temp%2002%2024.54.gif
                        You, the Messenger pronounce for everyone, "You people listen and affectionately and wholeheartedly accept the words of Allah and You people listen and affectionately and wholeheartedly accept the words of the Messenger "
                        http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/003.%20Aale%20Imran/temp09%203.32b.gif
                        In response, if you people turned away without paying heed
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                        since/then upon him is only that burden which is assigned to him and upon you people is that burden of responsibility which is laden upon you people.

                        Surat An Noor-24

                        or here

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                          Raaajah
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                          san

                          people are free to give opinions in this forum, eh?

                          look at other posters in this thread, they chose not to troll and instead add something to the thread

                          what, eh?
                          If people are free to utter their opinion, it does not mean they should utter whatever nonsense regarding Allah's book.

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                            Ayisha
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                            san
                            what, eh?
                            If people are free to utter their opinion, it does not mean they should utter whatever nonsense regarding Allah's book.

                            patiently waiting your full explanation of chapter 94, I did ask you in another thread to explain verses 1-3 but again you ignored it so you can do it here.

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                              san
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                              san
                              what, eh?
                              If people are free to utter their opinion, it does not mean they should utter whatever nonsense regarding Allah's book.

                              So what is the conclusion?

                              Allah mentions in the Quran about gallstones that Muhammad had rotfl

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                                Raaajah
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                                Ayisha

                                patiently waiting your full explanation of chapter 94, I did ask you in another thread to explain verses 1-3 but again you ignored it so you can do it here.

                                What was your response to the Surah, when Mazhar explained it?

                                I guess as usual
                                Ayisha

                                I disagree

                                If you have ready response for me too, then there is no need, however if for discussion sake, I can put forwatrd my understanding.

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                                  san
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                                  Ayisha
                                  If you have ready response for me too, then there is no need, however if for discussion sake, I can put forwatrd my understanding.

                                  Peace Raaajah,

                                  How about taking a break from Ayisha and please do share your own understanding. It's free for people to share their own honest opinions here. Let's discuss it then.

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