The Natural Republic - Updated

Haroon

Salaam.

I don't think anyone is trying to change the way someone prays, fasts etc. What we are trying to do with The Natural Republic is to present findings based on the Quran. Those findings will fly in the face of what we have been taught over the years, but it's still important to put the ideas out there to provoke thought and discussion and study of the Quran.

Layth

Dear DColorado,

I think you have misunderstood. As Haroon pointed out, no one is trying to re-invent Islam or to do away with any of its tenets (God forbid!). What we are attempting is to do away with the rituals and tenets and teachings that are not from Islam but are from external sources that dare to compete with God as idols besides Him.

The Islam of the Quran is not recongizable from the sectarian versions being practiced today.

Regards,

Mushu

Why is it that under the homosexuality section, only males are punishable for homosexual acts?

Ayisha

Why is it that under the homosexuality section, only males are punishable for homosexual acts?

I suppose if you think about it in the physical sense it is only males that can do this ??? although im not sure ??? something to think about there that I dont particularly want to think about -\

Mushu

I suppose if you think about it in the physical sense it is only males that can do this ??? although im not sure ??? something to think about there that I dont particularly want to think about -\

You mean lesbians cannot penetrate each other? Well, I'm sure you're aware of contraptions and toys that achieve something to that effect for women. Would their relationship be legal under the Natural Republic?

Ayisha

You mean lesbians cannot penetrate each other? Well, I'm sure you're aware of contraptions and toys that achieve something to that effect for women.
Ok lets get basic

back in the days of prophet Lot it was the men that were following 'perversion' and wanting to stick a part of thier 'private part' into another mans 'private part', assuming the arse is a 'private part'. Now based on that, no sex toys involved, this is not using ones 'private parts' as intended and they got more than a good telling off from God. Throughout history of man and 'perversions' it is generally men wanting to stick his 'private part' into anywhere he can find to stick it.

women cannot stick one of their 'private parts' into another woman, but it is not penetration that is necessary for a woman to achieve the same pleasure a man has with penetration, so toys are not really a necessity, but one is told to 'guard your private parts' handshake

Would their relationship be legal under the Natural Republic?

I would not think so based on man and woman being made for each other.

Mushu

I would not think so based on man and woman being made for each other.

Which leads back to my question as to why in the book only men are mentioned.

Ayisha

Which leads back to my question as to why in the book only men are mentioned.

dunno, why are only men mentioned in Quran and Torah about it?

Mushu

dunno

Thanks anyway.

Wakas

From memory, the verse prior is about women, the verse after uses the dual masculine, which could mean two males or one male one female. This was discussed in the forum in the past. You can try the search function, might be useful.

unknownuser

I am not going to tell you if I have found any mistakes but I wil say that I have just ordered from the book depository two copies of this book. I ordered the first one yeasterday.I don't like reading from the computer books so it will be a week or two before I get the copy. I will probably order more in the future so that I can give them out to others.

To whoever wrote it I must say it seems to me like its one of the best books I have ever looked into on Islam/ Quran.

Keep up the good work.

Thanks

nsws1988

Peace

I can't remember the page numbers but salat al wusta is once translated as the middle prayer time and once as a balanced salat. So which is it?