9/11 Burning Of Quran Must Go On!
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george
Where did I say that we should not try to study the actual source of the Quran.
sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.
george
The whole point of having translations of the Quran is to give non-arabic speaking people a chance to read the word of GOD in their own languange and if the decide to convert then latter on if they wish they can decide to learn the original arabic, but not knowing arabic DOES NOT stop a sincere believer in understanding the Quran in his or her own language.
george
I repeat again you do not have to Arabic to understand the Quran...
george
At any rate I have already provided evidence of hadith being condemn from the actuall arabic source and all you did was bitch, whine and moan about me "propogating anti-islamic websites" which i have told you repeatedly to provide proof off and yet STILL have'nt.
george
You only provided "evidence" of the translations of the hadiths that I posted......
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george only some of your gems
Not as funny as you because thats Ayisha's quote not mine you idiot
an idiotic hadith follower like raaajah
By the way it's really "adult" of you not answer peoples questions all becuase you don't like them or can't prove youre idiotic claims.Grow up.
Now we definately know that you don't know what the f*** you are chatting about.I don't know who really needs to grow up?
goerge
I don't see any mention of eggs, milk or bread in that verse
you can go to the bakery next street and find them there.
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sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.
sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.
But which you can't understand on its own without using the hadith
sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.
You only provided "evidence" of the translations of the hadiths that I posted......
If you are going to quote me then quote the rest what I said from that first line.
You only provided "evidence" of the translations of the hadiths that I posted for one of them......
Rajaaah some of your gems
your logic is just childish and you behave like one.
Please eat bread.
Please take Milk with bread.
Please eat bread with fried egg.
(In fact these statements are from Quran,)(Your"proof" that these statements are in the Quran)
Our Lord! send among them an Apostle of their own, who shall rehearse Your signs to them and instruct them in the Holy Qur'an (al-Kitab) and wisdom (Hikmah), and sanctify them (yuzakeehim), for You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise."And hope some confused minds would have understood that these statements are not contradictory. In fact these statements are from Quran, but it is no use to explain it to an average mind like that of george or his alike
I don't know who really needs to grow up?
You do, if instead of answering peoples questions you accuse them of being "child like" or insulting them by accusing them of having "an average mind " and your favourite "propogating anti-islamic websites" all whilst youre tiny confused mind can't tell the difference between one of my quotes and someone elses.
If you act like a grown up and prove your claims then you will get treated like a grown up.
If you act like an idiot by instead of answering peoples questions, making fun of them and insulting them then you deserve to be treated like an idiot.
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george
sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.
Quote from Raaajah on Today at 061346 PM
sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.But which you can't understand on its own with using the hadith
sorry! Actual source is in Arabic.
Quote from Raaajah on Today at 061346 PM
You only provided "evidence" of the translations of the hadiths that I posted......If you are going to quote me then quote the rest what I said from that first line.
You only provided "evidence" of the translations of the hadiths that I posted for one of them......This shows your panic! relax buddy laugh
The more you call others idiot, the more you expose your self.
In all of your posts the only word that any one could remember was "Idiot".So next time if you have any thing else then calling others "idiot" you are welcome, or if you have something else to say aside from the anti Islamic sites, we will discuss them, otherwise just chill.
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george
This shows your panic! relax buddy laughWho's panicking
your'e the one who keeps dodging peoples questionsThe more you call others idiot, the more you expose your self.
In all of your posts the only word that any one could remember was "Idiot".The only one I've been calling an idiot is you and if idiot is the only word that stood out for you from reading my post's, then you've exposed yourself as an idiot who can't read very well or you must see yourself in that word.
So next time if you have any thing else then calling others "idiot" you are welcome, or if you have something else to say aside from the anti Islamic sites, we will discuss them, otherwise just chill.
And until you chill out and answer peoples questions, instead of dodging them and accusing them of "propogating anti-islamic websites" without any proof then you will continue to be treated like an idiot. D
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george
We can expect that a mental midget like you will carry on not answering peoples questions and to be treated like an idiot, you idiot
It was single "idiot" per post now it has reached the height "two idiots" per line, i would like to see further development in your intellect lets see how many times you can use this word "idiot" in a single line, come on try hard, you have to prove something. rotfl
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george
It was single "idiot" per post now it has reached the height "two idiots" per line, i would like to see further development in your intellect lets see how many times you can use this word "idiot" in a single line, come on try hard, you have to prove something. rotflWell the hieight of your "intellect" is not being able to answer questions to prove youre claims , so I don't have to try at all to prove youre an idiot, because no one is as good at doing that as you. laugh
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"Our Lord! send among them an Apostle of their own, who shall rehearse Your signs to them and instruct them in the Holy Qur'an (al-Kitab) and wisdom (Hikmah), and sanctify them (yuzakeehim), for You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise."
I am leaving you the Quran and my sunna; you should follow both.
(Muwatta 46/3).
463I am leaving you the Quran and my relatives; you should follow both.
(Muslim 44/4/2408; Ibn Hanbal 4/366; Darimi 23/1/3319).I am leaving you the Quran; you should follow it. (Muslim 15/19/1218;
Ibn Majah 25/84/3074; Abu Dawud 11/56/1905)No raj, sorry those statements do not match what you posted. Also, this is Abraham speaking so are you claiming now that all prophets between Abraham and Muhammed were surplus to requirements? Maybe Allah was practicing to get the one with the right hikmah?
Hint, at the end of each hadith it tells you where its from, and NONE say Quran do they.
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george
Well the hieight of your "intellect" is not being able to answer questions to prove youre claims , so I don't have to try at all to prove youre an idiot, because no one is as good at doing that as you.
what are then you trying to do since last ten more posts? just check them for yourself, what kind of image you are producing of yourself?
sad you have reverted to single idiot per line, you do not live up to challenge '(Well the hieight of your "intellect" is not being able to answer questions to prove youre claims
just go back through all the tread and if you still feel that your questions have not been answered up to your satisfaction, ask them in a decent way.
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george
what are then you trying to do since last ten more posts? just check them for yourself, what kind of image you are producing of yourself?
sad you have reverted to single idiot per line, you do not live up to challenge '(just go back through all the tread and if you still feel that your questions have not been answered up to your satisfaction, ask them in a decent way.
they were asked in a decent way, your name calling and childish games has brought it down now to a brawl and you still try to claim some sort of superiority. You have not answered questions raj, you never do.
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Ayisha
they were asked in a decent way, your name calling and childish games has brought it down now to a brawl and you still try to claim some sort of superiority. You have not answered questions raj, you never do.
every one knows who started it and don't try to act like some one who is higher than others, we all know where you stand.
AyishaAlso, this is Abraham speaking so are you claiming now that all prophets between Abraham and Muhammed were surplus to requirements? Maybe Allah was practicing to get the one with the right hikmah?
that seems to be your biggest problem, put words in others mouth, the words that develop in your dirty mind all the time.
It is because you have never studied whole Quran as you often claim, you just pick verses and try to base whole of your dirty thoughts on them.Have you read this verse?
"But We had already given the family of Abraham the Scripture and wisdom." Qur'an, 554.
now read
"Our Lord! send among them an Apostle of their own, who shall rehearse Your signs to them and instruct them in the Holy Qur'an (al-Kitab) and wisdom (Hikmah), and sanctify them (yuzakeehim), for You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise."ayisha
Hint, at the end of each hadith it tells you where its from, and NONE say Quran do they.
i said that tallies with Quran.
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george
what are then you trying to do since last ten more posts? just check them for yourself, what kind of image you are producing of yourself?
sad you have reverted to single idiot per line, you do not live up to challenge '(Trying to get you to prove youre claims and to answer the questions which are asked of you but like every idiotic hadith follower, you do not live up to challenge  
I couldnt care less what my image seems like to you.just go back through all the tread and if you still feel that your questions have not been answered up to your satisfaction, ask them in a decent way.
they were asked in a decent way, your name calling and childish games has brought it down now to a brawl and you still try to claim some sort of superiority. You have not answered questions raj, you never do.
damn beat me to it peace
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george
Trying to get you to prove youre claims and to answer the questions which are asked of you but like every idiotic hadith follower, you do cannot live up to challenge )
I couldnt care less what my image seems like to youso this was a decent one from you as requested by me. &
It seems this word "idiot" has become a part of your life and you can't live without it.Well brother, will you please repeat your questions once again if you don't mind, or if you can just provide the link to that post, where your questions were unanswered, I will try once agian
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george
so this was a decent one from you as requested by me. &
It seems this word "idiot" has become a part of your life and you can't live without it.What exactly were you supposed to have requested from me that was meant to be decent ??? )
It's seems that you cant stop being an idiot for all your life. &Well brother, will you please repeat your questions once again if you don't mind, or if you can just provide the link to that post, where your questions were unanswered, I will try once agian
Because you think that if some one can't answer your question he or she is Idiot.Youre an idiot if you claim that someone is wrong and accuse them of something and they ask you to prove youre claims and continue not giving them an answer.
This is the last time
And if you have any proof that I am propagating "anti-islamic" websites (which i have asked you to do a few times now and yet not done so) or you can give me proof that those three different versions of the hadith for the prophets last sermon are not contradictory, or you can give me proof that those crazyass hadiths which I first posted are the wrong transilations and you can give me proof of the correct transilations in "the way you read them", or you can give me proof that you can't understand the Quran without learning arabic even though arabic speaking scholars say they need to use the hadith to understand it even though the Quran is in arabic, then feel free otherwise all you have proved is that you have'nt got a clue what youre chatting about. laugh
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that seems to be your biggest problem, put words in others mouth, the words that develop in your dirty mind all the time.
my dirty mind? you want dirty minds go see your friend mazhar who is likening Lots people to watching porn movies now.It is because you have never studied whole Quran as you often claim, you just pick verses and try to base whole of your dirty thoughts on them.
what are you on about?Have you read this verse?
"But We had already given the family of Abraham the Scripture and wisdom." Qur'an, 554.
now read
"Our Lord! send among them an Apostle of their own, who shall rehearse Your signs to them and instruct them in the Holy Qur'an (al-Kitab) and wisdom (Hikmah), and sanctify them (yuzakeehim), for You are the Exalted in Might, the Wise."well talking off picking verses out and twisting them around a bit, very badly I might add.
That first part is not 5.54 its 4.54.
the second part is 2.129 so why are you posting it like it comes right after 4.54? its still Abraham talking and he was a long time dead before Muhammed came.
ayisha
i said that tallies with Quran.I know you said and i'm telling you it doesn't tally with any of those 3 hadith at the 'last sermon', how could anything in quran tally with what people have said the prophet said when each one of the 3 are different.
This is a total waste of time!
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Bottom line is God finalized the deen at the time of Prophet Muhammed. If hadiths are soo important as hadith followers claim then surely God would state in the quran that a man named Bukhari would come at a later date to collect the hikmah in a book and to not doubt his collection. hail
Surely God wouldn't leave us in the dark about him in the quran. But then again if hikmah is the sunnah collected in the hadith then surely Prophet Muhammed would have been instructed to collect it in a book at the time he was alive. hmm
But hadith followers say they were not wrote down at the same time to avoid mixing up with the quran. But surely if hadith explains the quran like they say, then surely the explanation needs to be written down simultaenously to explain the revelation and to finalize the deen. hmm
I HOPE THE READERS CAN SEE THE MANY LOOPHOLES & IDIOCY IN THE CLAIMS OF HADITH FOLLOWERS THAT I'VE POINTED OUT. ONE CANNOT JUSTIFY A DIVINE BOOK NEEDING EXPLANATION FROM A BOOK COLLECTED MANY YEARS LATER. PROPHET MUHAMMED FINISHED HIS MISSION OF DELIVERING THE DIVINE MESSAGE NOT BUKHARI & CO. O0
peace
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george
It's seems that you cant stop being an idiot for all your life
Youre an idiot if you claim that someone is wrong and accuse them of something and they ask you to prove youre claims and continue not giving them an answer.You just can't help yourself to get rid of this word "idiot" from yourself.
Q1 And if you have any proof that I am propagating "anti-islamic" websites
Answer You can visit any anti-Islamic site and you will find out at these HAdith you quoted above are compulsory part of these sites. These Hadith are taken from those anti -Islamic sites there is no doubt in that. Therefore by forwarding the claim of Christian missionaries you are in fact propagating these sites and their absurd claims.
Q2 Three versions of Hadith are not contradictory
Answer They are not contradictory. I told you to follow if there is any need to follow the one which tallies with Quran. The one about relatives has no support from Quran, and I have not discussed it. But the fact is they are not contradictory. They all say we have to follow Quran.
Q3 You can give me proof that those crazyass hadiths which I first posted are the wrong transilations and you can give me proof of the correct transilations in "the way you read them.
Answer I have already provided you with my understanding of Hadith and you have admitted that.
Q4you can give me proof that you can't understand the Quran without learning arabic.
Answer I had already provided you the proof that you cannot understand the Quran without knowing Arabic. Without knowing Arabic for yourself you will be dependent on others and their interpretation of Quran, as you are.So where are the questions you keep on shouting about in your each and every post, those are un-answered.