Some thoughts needed on ghosts/spirits situation
-
Salaam Rumi, I suggest you to read the above posts more carefully and my article
http//19.org/index.php?id=91,419,0,0,1,0&PHPSESSID=0995ce90d0bca2efbcb1f22d713004ac
Then you will see that your assumption is wrong.
-
Have you tried talking nicely to these ghosts? I'm sure they're open for dialogue. Give them company D
Arnold, your thoughts are very compelling. Some things do not add up. For instance, there was this woman in my home town that kept having her child snatched on birth (literally would be born and it would be taken away from her, never to be seen again). How would you explain that? My whole family are witnesses to this, save me (as always, sigh).
-
Really? How and by what? Did it fly away through the air? Blinked out? Sorry, but I have heard so many stories and everyone has 'witnessed it'. People are really inclined in having supernatural stories. Please give more details about it.
-
That's actually all I know.
This woman is still alive. Not just that, but she knows some sort of divination - my brother and sister looked into her mirror (at her request), and saw a room full of people.
I think all of this stuff is a load of horsecrap but until I witness it, I'm not saying anything.
-
This time on holidays I heard the full story of something I knew only in bits and pieces before. It is a very odd tale.
Around 15 years back, my younger bro and his friend, let's call him G used to hang out a lot. G also had an older brother A who was also involved in this story. G & A had a really old house (in Karachi, I won't disclose the location or anything) built by someone who had made a weird escape tunnel/panic room through it. One entry/exit point of this tunnel started from the first floor all the way around the house to outside the house where it led to a "hidden" exit/entry. Now comes the strange bit...they had tried to map it earlier and discovered that one part of the tunnel was walled up. From both sides. This left a largish area of the tunnel blocked from either side. The parents had told them to leave the tunnel alone but teenage boys never listen do they. The boys obviously thought of treasure being somehow locked up in the "room" and decided to break through it. At night of course, when their parents were asleep.
There is another addition to this, before I go on. The street in front of the house had lots of huge old trees lining it. Previously my bro and G were playing cricket out on the street when they decided to take a break. They leaned against the tree and G said that their mum told them not to go near these trees because once someone in the neighbourhood tried to cut down one to make way for something or the other and there was a huge drama, blood red pus like liquid started coming out of the tree and they all freaked out and left the damn trees alone. Anyways, my bro and G were real bastards in the making (and have always been very skeptical of paranormal stuff) and so my bro lights up and then kicks the tree and tries to put out the ciggie on the tree when the weirdest thing happens...they hear a thud. Both of the turn around and look down and a black bird has dropped down from the tree, dead. It's eyes were open but it just wasn't breathing. Whilst they were digesting this, more thuds from around a group of 4-5 trees and all in all, they counted 20ish dead birds. They just went inside quickly and thought it very creepy is all.
Alright going back to the tunnel, the side of the walled up tunnel that they could access from inside the house had a very light door to it and had an arch on top and wasn't normal sized, in fact you had to stoop to get through the whole tunnel or crawl. So when you would get to the area that was blocked off, they had books lying there (which were always lying there their parents said when they bought the house, they also told them not to ever touch them). These were around 15-18 journal sized books, bound in heavy cloth and had unlined pages in which someone had scrawled weird runic characters and symbols in black ink. My bro says that he has seen so many languages and even went searching for all manners of scripts later but never found the script used in those books. They were quite old and touching them caused some of the pages to crackle and fall off.
Anyhow...so their plan was set for the night since my bro would stay over and then when their parents turned in for the night, they'd crawl through with a hammer, chisel and a heavy cloth to muffle the noise and break on through to the other side. One hitch, they discovered there was no torch in the house that worked and since the tunnel didn't have any light, they opted for many candles along the length of the tunnel till the blockage. Since we have lots of power cuts in Karachi, back in those pre-ups/generator days, everyone had lots of candles stocked in their homes. Okay, moving along, G & A decided to go through the tunnel and asked my bro to stand guard outside...since if the parents did catch them, my bro wouldn't be responsible as such. So they go in and my bro is watching their progress from outside the tunnel till there was a bend and he couldn't see them anymore. Then they reach the blocked wall and start chipping lightly and ask him if the noise levels are good, my bro agrees on it being minimal and some minutes pass...during this time he notices that even though the balcony is open and there is no wind, the trees outside seem to be swaying pretty strongly.
After he hears a louder thump from inside the tunnel, the trees are swaying even more wildly as if there's a gale or something and then he notices that the door slams shut. By itself. He's been standing just next to it all this time and it hadn't moved and he hadn't moved. Then came scampering with yelling and howling from inside the tunnel and they started banging at the door without caring whether the parents woke up. So, there's no lock on the door and it's made of very light wood but no one can open it, my brother tried with all his strength to pull, the other two leaning against it with all their weight to push and nothing was happening. By this time, my bro's hands were getting red and welted so he decided to find a stick to put under the handle and then pull again. He tells them, they sit back to wait urging him to hurry and as soon as he turns to go look for something, the door swings open. The two inside rush to come out and ask him how he managed to get it open, my bro replies he didn't do anything, did they push it open? They say no, they were waiting...while they are figuring how it opened, the door slams shut again. No one moves to touch it at this point.
Apparently, what had happened was that when A broke through a bricked area, they both started feeling cold and even though he tried to see into the hole, he couldn't see anything except dark. Then the door slammed shut. And then the strangest thing, the candles didn't go out immediately... they went out in 2-3 sec intervals starting from their side! So they both panicked and came scrambling down the tunnel and the rest is above. The afterword to this is that come morning and emboldened by the risen sun and the fact that their parents didn't find out, they try to open the door to pick up where they left off and the door refused to budge. They even had packs of their friends from school come in with ropes and try to get that door open but it just wouldn't. During this session, a friend of theirs pointed out that there's no movement anywhere when people are trying to pull/push it. Normally a door would show some vibration or move a bit but this didn't at all.
Anyhow, they eventually sold their house. We met G this year and asked about the door. And it never did open again after that day, he has no idea if it did for the new owners.
-
Crazy story SC.
-
I've dropped the guys off to the house multiple times, seen the trees and all but haven't gone in. Seriously, I try to stay well away from this sorta stuff in RL (even though I'm very interested in it theoretically so to say) why invite trouble if it exists and all that. I have often wondered what exactly was in the tunnel...maybe it does this with every new owner, or just kids it doesn't like ;D