VIOLENCE AND QURANISM
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Many people I know within the quranist community were attracted to the quranist idea because of the untold freedom it harbours, it gives you the choice of living a life without calling for any man?s death, it merges virtually into any society and culture seamlessly. But whilst Quranism can be a path to liberty, it can also be a path to fundamentalism; in fact I believe it was first fundamentalist before it was liberal.
Long ago the northern strip of Africa became a haven for a very unpopular Muslim sect; the Khawarij, even today so many communities in morocco, Algeria and Tunisia are riddled with traces of this ancient force. Somehow, through missionary activity or violence or perhaps simple migration, the historical region known as bilad as sudan came into contact with the idea of Quranism. In todays Nigeria, they are resentfully called the Kala Kato , which is also sadly the name they gave the Ahl Alsunnah. Local folk tells us that it was in the manner of preaching of the first Quranist that whenever they come across a hadith, instead of beginning in the traditional way, saying kala.. this name ....kala this person... up to the holy prophet, they will simply start and end with Kala Kato, kato being the hausa translation of ?a fool?, hence affirming that all hatihist are fools. But the one event that brought Quranist to the fore front was when in 1982, a man named Muhammad Marwa somehow garnered enough disciples to launch a quranist insurrection remembered today as the? mai-tatsine? uprising. That part of Africa had never experienced a religious war since the rise of the colonialist and remember this was almost 20 years before the Taliban or the 9/11 attacks, by legend or truth Marwa was said to have declared anything he deemed western as non-quranic and hence forbidden, in effect declaring anyone using such things an apostate or tatsine hence the name mai-tatsine, he that makes (people) apostates.
I know many people in this forum will bring about one conspiracy theory or the other, so I won?t try to prove he said or meant those things, needless to say that he actually preached through paper and video. What I find most disturbing is the sharp similarities of Marwa?s views with that of ancient Khawarijis, whom history has already told us made apostates out of muslims at any whim and dispose of their leaders in the most violent way they could find. I am in no way trying to say that Quranism is wrong or will lead to violence; I am however just trying to bring a historical example to those quranist who keep claiming that a return to Quranism will be a golden key to an utopia for the muslim world. I personally don?t know what such a thing will do and although I hate the ?muslim clergy? and what they have made of Islam, when I once asked myself what would happen if every tom, dick and harry is given the moral and ethical authority and justification to interpret the quran for himself, I found myself seeing but not agreeing with why our fore fathers perhaps did what they did. As the Quran puts it ?tumult is greater than oppression?
But God knows best, this is what I think, what do u think?
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The khawarij, tafkeeris, qutubis (followers of Qutb) only 'follow the quran' only by name. Their interpretation of the quran has absolutely no difference from mainstream sunnis. The only difference they do have with sunnis is the fact that they refuse the authority of the ulema whom they claim are butt-kissers of the traitorous governments.
This is my opinion of them. Of course I can deny no one the right to call themselves 'Quranist'.
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abdullah
Are you a Muslim ? do you believe the Quran is your book sent by Allah to you ? or is it sent to sunni ulema?
If u think the quran is a noble book sent from God Allah
Why are you using ISM after the word Quran ? , saying Quranism about the words of Allah is a disrespect about Allah
Communism, capitalism, sunnism, shiism ok we accepte , but Coranism ???? Disrespecting the quran to the point to make it as a doctrine that u have to adhere ?Come on, your name say you are a muslim, why saying a word as Quranism ? next time u be saying Allahism , who knows
Khawarij story is a hadith, so i personnaly don't by a story as khawarij, remember? history is written by the winners, so khawarij is a history written by the hadithists, i can't verify if it is a true story
before we continue, I don't believe the pro phet married a girl 9 years old
I don't believe the sourah of IFK , aysha went at night timle with a guy etc etc...
I don't believe Aysha had a war with Ali wich made 10 000 moslem dead
I don't believe the prophet married 11 or 12 wolenI don't believe the prophet said , oh people , follow the hadith of bukhari etc...
Why would I believe the story of khawarij ? maybe it was invented to follow the scholars blindly, even in the things that contradict the auran
and last of all, who cares about khawarij ? if they really existed, we only take accont of our generation and what we doThe Day when the Earth will be rent asunder, from (men) hurrying out that will be a gathering together quite easy for Us. (44) We know best what they say; and thou art not one to overawe them by force. So admonish with the Qur'an such as fear My Warning! 5045
But those who believe and work deeds of righteousness, and believe in the (Revelation) sent down to Muhammad-for it is the Truth from their Lord He will remove from them their ills and improve their condition. 472
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Educated & well informed people do not terrorise each other to such an extent. There is no fear in quranism turning extremist as long as a.) the quranists are following quran and b.) the quran is not an innately violent book.
I personally dont know what such a thing will do and although I hate the muslim clergy and what they have made of Islam, when I once asked myself what would happen if every tom, dick and harry is given the moral and ethical authority and justification to interpret the quran for himself
If the quran is the absolute truth from the creator every Tom, Dick and Harry MUST come to the same conclusion if they are using their god-given brain properly.
The only reason most people come to different conclusions is because of the sheer mass of crud that has been piled onto the creator's book that confuses everything so much in the first place.
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Hi abdullah
when I once asked myself what would happen if every tom, dick and harry is given the moral and ethical authority and justification to interpret the quran for himself,
What do you think would happen? And would it be worse than what has been happening until now?
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abdullah
Are you a Muslim ? do you believe the Quran is your book sent by Allah to you ? or is it sent to sunni ulema?If u think the quran is a noble book sent from God Allah
Why are you using ISM after the word Quran ? , saying Quranism about the words of Allah is a disrespect about Allah
Communism, capitalism, sunnism, shiism ok we accepte , but Coranism ???? Disrespecting the quran to the point to make it as a doctrine that u have to adhere ?Loxbox, I don't see anything wrong with Abdullah uses the name of 'Quranism' or any other names.
And I think it is not a disrespect to anyone.. including "Allah"..
By the way why do you say that it is a disrepect to Allah anyway? Are you Allah??To all audiences of this forum..
If we looked closely through the history of humankind.
Many of the sectarian conflict a.k.a religious conflict rises up from the 'arrogance' of which "ism" / "opinion"/"belief" are better than others.. and they decides to resolve those differences in a war by killing each other! Labeling their opponent / enemy as "God's enemy" / "Showing disrespect to God" is a common jargon among them to justify the killing! And that is also a common trait among the people being so called "Fundamentalists".As long as those attitude remains the same, it doesn't matter which ism it is.. it will ends up with people killing each other for a very silly reason.
If the so-called "Quranism" is also dominated by those folks above (Fundamentalists) then of course it will also came up at full circle to be yet another Khawarij, Sunnis, Shiites, Catholics, Judaism, Communism etc... A dogmatic belief trying to control people through fear where discussion and debates are banned and tolerance to differences is ZERO.Salam / Peace
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Jafar
U right,he can say whatever ge wants, but he mentions quran only takes you to war, all sects use hadiths to legitimate any war, and that is in any religion, nowhere int eh bible tell u go and transgress, and nowhere in the quran it tells u go and trangresss, some people think sects use the quran to push them to war, but in reality, they have the quran in the hand while fighting, but in their heads the teachings of hadithsFight in the cause of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors. 2190
Second, after praising Abel for not fighting back when Cain murdered him, and decreeing that killing one soul is like killing all humanity, God condemns mass murder by gangs, calling it a war against law and order. The only exceptions are killing in self defense and court ordered execution of a murderer when the victim's family does not forgive. 527
Amongst them We have placed enmity and hatred till the Day of Judgment. Every time they kindle the fire of war, Allah doth extinguish it; but they (ever) strive to do mischief on earth. And Allah loveth not those who do mischief 564
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f what would happen if every tom, dick and harry is given the moral and ethical authority and justification to interpret the quran for himself
But actually we are given that authority. Or where does it say that only such and such a person can interpret or authorize interpretations of Qur'an. Everybody does it, even though they may think that follow somebody else. They follow that which arranges them most, whatever else they may tell themselves about their reasons. Or how do we know whose interpretations we should take as authoritative. Following somebody else's interpretations we only take an alibi for assuming our own responsibility. But in fact we are choosing.
Salaam