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    Emil
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    Hello...what does the following mean?

    wa la howla wa laa quwwata illa bil ALLAH

    My arabic skills are noo good...Please help

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      umzy01
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      i dont speak arabic but google does

      heres what i quickly found, its interesting because i've only ever heard this phrase when somone dies so i was told it means 'from him we come and to him we return' PAH! not even close! every day i find a new thing i once believed isnt actually true hypno

      read this link

      http//wahiduddin.net/words/tahwil.htm

      heres a summary if its too much hassle
      The phrase may be translated word-by-word as

      l? = no, not, none, neither
      hawla = change, alteration, transformation, movement, motion
      wa = and
      l? = no, not, none, neither
      quwwata = strength, power, potency, force, might, vigor
      ill? = but, except, if not
      bi = with, to, for, in, through, by means of
      All?h = Arabic name for the Supreme Being

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        alalmakt
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        Peace Umzy

        Inna lillahi wa inna ilaihi raji'un is probably the phrase you've heard when someone dies.

        Here's a wiki article on the phrase
        http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inna_lillahi_wa_inna_ilaihi_raji'un

        Here's an excerpt from the article

        Inna Inna is really inna-na. The first part is ?verily?, the last part is ?we??but Arabic tends to simplify, so it is written as inna (with only 1 noon and shadda for stress). It means ?Indeed, we? or ?verily, we?.
        Li-llahi Li is a harfu jarr (preposition) meaning ?to? or ?is for.? It is used as a kind of possessive case. ?a laka akhun? (the la is really the same as li) means ?is for you a brother?? or ?do you have a brother?? So here, ?lillahi? means ?belong to God? or ?are for God?. (It?s also because of the 'li' that 'allah' takes kasra.)
        Wa Wa means ?and?.
        Inna Same as above.
        Ilay-hi This is two parts, it means ?toward him?. Ilay is actually a form of ila (a preposition), which means ?to?. A grammatically similar phrase is ?thahabtu ila masjidin? ? "I went to a masjid". ?Hi? is actually ?hu?, the third-person possessive pronoun (?his?). (It takes kasra because of "ila".) So the overall translation is ?toward him?.
        Raji3oon This is a form of raja3a, "return" (the 3 represents the letter 'ain, which is voiced with a tightened throat). Raji3 is a noun/adjective form, meaning 'a person who is returning'. The oon at the end makes it plural (so that it refers to 3 or more people). Raji3oon basically means 'returners', or better 'returning ones'.

        Taken together, the phrase can be translated as ?We indeed belong to God, and we indeed toward him are returning.?

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          SarahY
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          Different phrase alalmakt

          la hawla wala quwata ila bil lah - there is no strength or power greater than God. - people say it sometimes when events happen they have no control of

          inna lilah wa inna ilahi raji`oon - to God we belong to God we return - people say it when they hear of death

          though hawla can refer to different things

          hope it helps

          peace

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            alalmakt
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            I know it's a different phrase. I was just clarifying that the phrase that Umzy was thinking of was inna lilah wa inna ilahi raji'oon.

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              nsws1988
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              Peace

              I was told that it's a magic phrase that you say when someone does something bad to you so that something bad happens to them.

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                SarahY
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                I know it's a different phrase. I was just clarifying that the phrase that Umzy was thinking of was inna lilah wa inna ilahi raji'oon.

                oh ok, my bad. i didn't read the post.

                Peace

                I was told that it's a magic phrase that you say when someone does something bad to you so that something bad happens to them.

                that's odd, it's just a statement. a dhikr not a magic phrase

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                  nsws1988
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                  that's odd, it's just a statement. a dhikr not a magic phrase

                  I know. But people can be so superstitious. I was also told that I have to say mashallah to avoid the evil eye.
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                    TAJ
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                    Peace

                    I was told that it's a magic phrase that you say when someone does something bad to you so that something bad happens to them.

                    That "magic" phrase I think you are talking about is "hasbuna Allah wa niema Al Wakeel". It does work wonders. Talk about the power of the word; the wonders of the Quran exceeds all magic.

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                      nsws1988
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                      That "magic" phrase I think you are talking about is "hasbuna Allah wa niema Al Wakeel". It does work wonders. Talk about the power of the word; the wonders of the Quran exceeds all magic.

                      That's the one!

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