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    harris
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    Your hair and nails also grow by themselves. Do you leave them alone because it is "more natural"?

    hahaha! good one leyna

    Now coming back to Spiderman Badr who is one of the key protectors of the sunni faith on this forum....

    It's normal it was the 1st mosque built by Muhammad, his house and his grave. There's such constructions around the houses or the graves of alot of prophets.

    Soo, that makes it acceptable? And you can't fathom anything wrong with that eh? Whom are you fooling?
    http//www.islamicjewellery.co.uk/images/l_vp08.jpg

    And ? do people worship these writting ? do they face it when praying ? do they touch it and think it will give baraka ?

    Such childish reasoning... i'll make it simpler for you to comprehend.... If ur the great CEO of a big multinational company and people who visit your office see the name of a low level labourer on the door, wat wud u say? "Oh gee... it doesn't matter, coz nobody talks to the name plate...."

    http//noorcanvases.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/AM2.bmp

    ???? theres no 99 names of Muhammad, where did you found this ?

    http//www.muslimbase.com/images/004673-99name.jpg

    are you really a sunni or just acting like one for the sake of a debate?
    http//www.muslimbabynames.net/prophetnames.asp
    http//www.ezsoftech.com/islamic/infallible1f.asp
    http//www.islam786.org/99namesofmuhammad.htm

    Hadith is not the book of Muhammad. Theres alot of books that contains deeds and hadiths by Muhammad. None of them is sacred nor divine like the Quran. We all know that.

    Ok let me get this straight... Spiderman is saying that EVERYBODY knows that the hadiths are actually NOT sacred NOR divine, but somehow feels it is extremely important to follow every word mentioned in them? Plz enlighten us how this twisted logic works.

    Looks like un-'knowingly' Spiderman badr seems to act so ignorant about the shirks of sunnism.... Either he's just playing dumb or....
    he just needs to grow a beard! lol

    A serious question to Badr

    How does Spiderman keep his beard under the mask?

    Peace

    Here's how! rotfl
    http//fc05.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/335/b/c/What_if_Spider_man_had_a_beard_by_supernitro.jpg

    P.S. I wonder wat the custodians of the sunni faith think about people who watch movies and cartoons showing western mythical heroes like superman, spiderman and powerpuff girls who've got 'super-powers'....
    such things are totally haraam wouldn't u say? police

    peace to all.

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      Mazhar
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      2165
      2165 And from among the people are some who take other than Allah as equals to Him, they love them as they love Allah; but those who believe, love Allah more strongly; and when those who were wicked see the retribution, they will see that all power belongs to Allah, and that Allah is severe in retribution.

      Peace mmkhan,

      This does not go with that which you have stated earlier.

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        mmkhan
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        You think those ayaat are directed to me ? I thought I was clear about Muhammad not beign equal to god (how could the creator equal the created ?)

        Think about that

        Have We not expanded for you your breast,
        And taken off from you your burden,
        Which pressed heavily upon your back,
        And exalted for you your esteem? or and granted you an exalted reputation? or And raised high your fame?

        To whom are directed these verses ?

        Please read the post # 410, you may find many examples of those who are mentioned in 2165

        May Allah open our hearts to understand the Truth.
        Mohammed M. Khan

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          mmkhan
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          Salaaman Harris,

          Soo, that makes it acceptable? And you can't fathom anything wrong with that eh?

          Such childish reasoning... i'll make it simpler for you to comprehend.... If ur the great CEO of a big multinational company and people who visit your office see the name of a low level labourer on the door, wat wud u say? "Oh gee... it doesn't matter, coz nobody talks to the name plate...."

          Ok let me get this straight... Spiderman is saying that EVERYBODY knows that the hadiths are actually NOT sacred NOR divine, but somehow feels it is extremely important to follow every word mentioned in them? Plz enlighten us how this twisted logic works.

          Thank you brother... Thanks for putting on images and great contribution sun

          May Allah guide us all towards the Truth.
          Mohammed M. Khan

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            mmkhan
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            Great!!! rotfl

            Here's how! rotfl
            http//fc05.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/335/b/c/What_if_Spider_man_had_a_beard_by_supernitro.jpg

            bravo bravo bravo

            May Allah guide us towards The Truth.
            Mohammed M. Khan

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              mmkhan
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              Salaaman brother Mazhar,

              Peace mmkhan,

              This does not go with that which you have stated earlier.

              Can you please explain it?

              How? ???

              Why? ???

              May Allah guide us all towards the Truth.
              Mohammed M. Khan

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                Badr
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                hahaha! good one leyna

                Now coming back to Spiderman Badr who is one of the key protectors of the sunni faith on this forum....

                Soo, that makes it acceptable? And you can't fathom anything wrong with that eh? Whom are you fooling?
                http//www.islamicjewellery.co.uk/images/l_vp08.jpg

                Such childish reasoning... i'll make it simpler for you to comprehend.... If ur the great CEO of a big multinational company and people who visit your office see the name of a low level labourer on the door, wat wud u say? "Oh gee... it doesn't matter, coz nobody talks to the name plate...."

                http//noorcanvases.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/AM2.bmp

                So you are associating Muhammad to a low level labourer ? I hope one day you'll realise all what he did for you.

                http//www.muslimbase.com/images/004673-99name.jpg

                are you really a sunni or just acting like one for the sake of a debate?
                http//www.muslimbabynames.net/prophetnames.asp
                http//www.ezsoftech.com/islamic/infallible1f.asp
                http//www.islam786.org/99namesofmuhammad.htm

                This has nothing to do with islam, let me tell you something, even the 99 names of Allah is bidaa, allah dont have only 99 names.

                Ok let me get this straight... Spiderman is saying that EVERYBODY knows that the hadiths are actually NOT sacred NOR divine, but somehow feels it is extremely important to follow every word mentioned in them? Plz enlighten us how this twisted logic works.

                The form aint divine, the content is.

                Looks like un-'knowingly' Spiderman badr seems to act so ignorant about the shirks of sunnism.... Either he's just playing dumb or....
                he just needs to grow a beard! lol

                Here's how! rotfl
                http//fc05.deviantart.net/fs50/f/2009/335/b/c/What_if_Spider_man_had_a_beard_by_supernitro.jpg

                That's an option too.

                P.S. I wonder wat the custodians of the sunni faith think about people who watch movies and cartoons showing western mythical heroes like superman, spiderman and powerpuff girls who've got 'super-powers'....
                such things are totally haraam wouldn't u say? police

                peace to all.

                I'm not following the custodians of the sunni faith, I am following the hadeeth of rasool allah.

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                  Leyna
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                  P.S. I wonder wat the custodians of the sunni faith think about people who watch movies and cartoons showing western mythical heroes like superman, spiderman and powerpuff girls who've got 'super-powers'....
                  such things are totally haraam wouldn't u say? police

                  Absolutely haraam and absurd! I can't imagine anything less Islamic than girls with super powers; we all know women are weak, fragile beings who need to be protected and cared for by the men in their life. Besides, a girl with super powers would hardly be obedient to her husband, which, as I'm sure you know, is an important Islamic requirement.

                  http//img215.imageshack.us/img215/5766/haram.gif

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                    Ayisha
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                    You think those ayaat are directed to me ? ) I thought I was clear about Muhammad not beign equal to god (how could the creator equal the created ?)

                    You think not all Quran is directed at you as a LESSON to be learned from the examples Allah has given? You may SAY this all you like but the rest of you deceives your tongue.

                    Think about that

                    Have We not expanded for you your breast,
                    And taken off from you your burden,
                    Which pressed heavily upon your back,
                    And exalted for you your esteem? or and granted you an exalted reputation? or And raised high your fame?

                    To whom are directed these verses ?

                    and there we have the rest of you deceiving what your tongue said above.

                    These verses are speaking of Muhammed, he had an exalted reputation and fame among the people of that time, he was the prophet of God and there were no others at that time and place, there are numerous verses telling you he was not exalted about other messengers and not to make any distincton, yet still you try to prove otherwise while saying with your tongue "I thought I was clear about Muhammad not beign equal to god"

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                      Ayisha
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                      Salaam Aysha,
                      Jst love your posts! I'm a fan now

                      Salam harris, thank you! peace

                      I have a fan yayy yay

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                        Ayisha
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                        Absolutely haraam and absurd! I can't imagine anything less Islamic than girls with super powers; we all know women are weak, fragile beings who need to be protected and cared for by the men in their life. Besides, a girl with super powers would hardly be obedient to her husband, which, as I'm sure you know, is an important Islamic requirement.

                        http//img215.imageshack.us/img215/5766/haram.gif

                        rotfl

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                          Mushu
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                          I am following the hadeeth of rasool allah.

                          No you're not.

                          You follow conjecture, as pointed out to you several times. You follow hadith attributed to the Messenger via a broken, unreliable and utterly subjective referencing system.

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                            Ayisha
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                            No you're not.

                            You follow conjecture, as pointed at to you several times. You follow hadith attributed to the Messenger via a broken, unreliable and utterly subjective referencing system.

                            Exactly! The hadith of rasool are clearly IN Quran and what he was told to "Say" by Allah.

                            Badr, the prophet was only a medium for the message, his duty was to deliver the message, the message is from Allah, not Muhammed or anyone else, ALLAH. We are told to follow the message, the messenger followed the message to the letter and it is there for us to follow it too, the MESSAGE from ALLAH. Following conjecture is what you are warned against in the message itself, the ONLY 100% sure 'hadith' of the messenger is what he was TOLD to "say" by Allah and it is in Quran.

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                              harris
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                              So you are associating Muhammad to a low level labourer ? I hope one day you'll realise all what he did for you.

                              Exactly my point! Ppl like you have been brain-washed for so long that you can never imagine the fact that the prophet was just another ordinary person who lived and died. He did not personally do any favors. He was chosen for being righteous and thus became an instrument in the spreading of the one message like all the messengers chosen before him.

                              What's interesting is how you were immediately so hurt when the messenger was classed at a level much below GOD. Don't you realize your folly? You cannot fathom the reality..

                              The funny part is even your hadiths say the same thing and yet you cannot accept it

                              Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, Number 654
                              Narrated 'Umar

                              I heard the Prophet saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave."

                              Every single human on earth is nothing more than a slave of Allah (a slave is ofcourse even below the level of a labourer). Try to accept that fact sooner or later.
                              PEACE.

                              Say "I am but a man like yourselves, (but) the inspiration has come to me, that your Allah is one Allah whoever expects to meet his Lord, let him work righteousness, and, in the worship of his Lord, admit no one as partner.
                              -Sura 18110

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                                His spider-bear you mean...
                                Well, he first comb it with his spider comb then attach it with his spider rubber band. He hold it against his neck before puttin his mask and tadaaaa !

                                Loks like this spideer man is a sikh D

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                                  harris
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                                  Loks like this spideer man is a sikh D

                                  Sikh or sick, with that long beard of his, this spiderman would be more comfortable being superman or shall we say Super-Beard D

                                  http//muslimmatters.org/wp-content/uploads/SuperMuslim.jpg

                                  Absolutely haraam and absurd! I can't imagine anything less Islamic than girls with super powers; we all know women are weak, fragile beings who need to be protected and cared for by the men in their life. Besides, a girl with super powers would hardly be obedient to her husband, which, as I'm sure you know, is an important Islamic requirement.

                                  http//img215.imageshack.us/img215/5766/haram.gif

                                  Ofcourse! Guess superheroes whether male or female wont be haraam if they all get together in an acceptable way

                                  http//aboutindo.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/superheroesinprayer.jpg

                                  peace to all. O0

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                                    Alen
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                                    As salamu alaykum,
                                    with all due Respect.

                                    @ mmkhan.
                                    If Badr wants to have a picture of a Spiderman, then he has a free will to choose that.
                                    Also, re-check Qur'an 4911.

                                    @ Leyna.
                                    I don't quite agree with you there.
                                    No disrespect but have you seen Wonder Woman? barbara Eden was playing genie in a bottle better then Bush led the country. She just blinked and got them the wish. Special agent Dana Scully. Nearly human terminator Sarah Connor. The way she handles a gun ....
                                    Then we have Princess Leia Organa.
                                    Have you seen Sin City? Man, I gotta watch that again. Miho rocks!
                                    CatWoman,
                                    Lieutenant Ripley,
                                    Halle Berry in X-Men and Famke Hanssen.
                                    Plenty more.

                                    All I'm saying here is this men and women are equal and men don't always must take care of women. In The West, women have same freedom as men so the equality is seen and acceptable. Women are not weak. Women are strong, sometimes stronger then certain men. There are also women bodybuilders. Women in the army.

                                    You know, in 1989 I actually wanted to marry Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio after I saw her in The Abyss.

                                    No disrespect, sister.

                                    Peace.

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                                      mmkhan
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                                      Salaaman Alen,

                                      As salamu alaykum,
                                      with all due Respect.

                                      @ mmkhan.
                                      If Badr wants to have a picture of a Spiderman, then he has a free will to choose that.
                                      Also, re-check Qur'an 4911.

                                      Thanks a lot for reminding me of 4911

                                      Alhamdulillah brother, I am aware of 4911, inshaAllah, I don't laugh at anyone. You might have mistaken, please scroll and check my above posts, if you find any, please feel free to correct me.

                                      I laughed at the picture of spider-man with beard, that looks so funny to me.

                                      Thanks again for your concern brother.

                                      May Allah guide us all towards the Truth.

                                      with all due respect.
                                      Mohammed M. Khan

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                                        Jack
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                                        @ Leyna.
                                        I don't quite agree with you there.

                                        Leyna was being sarcastic...

                                        http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

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                                          harris
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                                          As salamu alaykum,
                                          with all due Respect.

                                          @ mmkhan.
                                          If Badr wants to have a picture of a Spiderman, then he has a free will to choose that.
                                          Also, re-check Qur'an 4911.

                                          Salaam brothers,
                                          Thanks Alen for reminding us about sura 4911. The only problem with the situation is that 'they' don't accept 'us' as brothers but instead look down upon us as some mislead followers of satan.

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