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Giving the Quran: In contexts or in verses

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    The peace be with you dear reader, because I currently feel like I got a headache or something. So I come here and post the following said to me

    Salam Alaikum,

    you have ignored every attempt for me to tell you that you are using verses out of context
    if you wish I will give you the revelations as they came
    you only have to ask

    don't barter guidance for error!

    Also An Alim will always use Bismillahi Ar Rahma Ar Raheem
    there is no Alim on this earth that doesn't start that way and also
    they add Quzibillahi Mina shytan al Rajeem
    and they always keep the taqua clean

    using only the verses as they came in full revelation
    not out of context not out of verse format not out of timeline

    you have used over 99% of your verses you posted in out of context in revelation and out of their existing formats to try to make points

    You are not Allah
    Allahi Wu Minasha meaning be brings them.
    If you wish to learn the revelations I will teach you them surely you need not spew error.

    Example

    "This is a blessed Book; We have revealed it to you so that you contemplate over it," and
    "Don't they contemplate over the Qur'aan!", and,
    "Have they not pondered over (Allaah's) words!".
    Obviously, you cannot contemplate words unless you understand their meaning. That is why Allaah has said
    "We have revealed it as an Arabic Qur'aan so that you comprehend it",

    This is not a good way to post the Quran, why? Because it doesn't show the full reveleation of what Allah SWT was talking about in timeline and understanding to the text. It does however show a repeat in the strings... yet it doesn't show the full context and one can get lost
    I will post to you the first revealed verse in the above in full how it should abe and you will see the difference inshAllah

    (I don't believe there is enough room in here to do such but I will try inshAllah)

    Salam Alaikum,
    Ouzibillahi Mina shytan Al Rajeem
    Bismillahi Ar Rahman Ar Raheem
    Start of Revelation to Muhammed SAW

    1. And We created not the heaven and the earth and all that is between them without purpose! That is the consideration of those who disbelieve! Then woe to those who disbelieve (in Isl?mic Monotheism) from the Fire!
    2. Shall We treat those who believe (in the Oneness of All?h Isl?mic Monotheism) and do righteous good deeds, as Mufsid?n (those who associate partners in worship with All?h and commit crimes) on earth? Or shall We treat the Muttaq?n (pious - see V.22), as the Fujj?r (criminals, disbelievers, wicked, etc)
    3. (This is) a Book (the Qur'?n) which We have sent down to you, full of blessings that they may ponder over its Verses, and that men of understanding may remember.
    4. And to D?w?d (David) We gave Sulaim?n (Solomon). How excellent (a) slave! Verily, he was ever oft-returning in repentance (to Us)!
    5. When there were displayed before him, in the afternoon, well trained horses of the highest breed .
    6. And he said "Alas! I did love the good (these horses) instead of remembering my Lord (in my 'Asr prayer)" till the time was over, and (the sun) had hidden in the veil (of night).
    7. Then he said "Bring them (horses) back to me." Then he began to pass his hand over their legs and their necks (till the end of the display).
    8. And, indeed We did try Sulaim?n (Solomon) and We placed on his throne Jasadan (a devil, so he lost his kingdom for a while) but he did return (to his throne and kingdom by the Grace of All?h and he did return) to All?h with obedience and in repentance.
    9. He said "My Lord! Forgive me, and bestow upon me a kingdom such as shall not belong to any other after me Verily, You are the Bestower."
    10. So, We subjected to him the wind, it blew gently to his order whithersoever he willed,
    11. And also the Shay?tin (devils) from the jinns (including) every kind of builder and diver,
    12. And also others bound in fetters.
    13. "This is Our gift, so spend you or withhold, no account will be asked."
    14. And verily, he enjoyed a near access to Us, and a good final return (Paradise).

    (There is a Hadith according to which the Prophet is quoted to have said that Solomon was so determined to beget for himself a strong and ideal heir that he cohabited with his ninety wives in the same night and declared to his people that each would bear him a son worthy of occupying his throne after his death. But contrary to expectations, none of them conceived except one, who gave birth to a weakling.
    This, said the Prophet, was because he forgot to say God willing, - or inshallah , - on account of which his wish was not granted by Allah).

    End of Revelation to Muhammed SAW

    DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE?
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    Period of Revelation
    As will be explained below, according to some traditions this Surah was sent down in the period when the Holy Prophet had started calling the people openly to Islam in Makkah, and this had caused great alarm among the chiefs of the Quraish. If this be true, its period of revelation would be about the 4th year of the Prophethood. According to some other traditions, it was sent down after Hadrat Umar's embracing Islam, and this happened, as is well known, after the migration to Habash. Another chain of the traditions shows that the event which occasioned the revelation of this Surah took place during the last illness of Abu Talib. If this be correct, the period of its revelation would be the 10th or 11th year of the Prophethood.

    Anyone with the help of allah willing to provide an answer to this, because I'm sure what that person is telling me... it just doesn't sound reasonable. I was going to ask that person to provide evidence from the quran, but it's better if I ask here since one or two of you may know something about the above argument from the quran. In the past I would have spent time searching for an answer myself, but... Inshallah some of you could help if you are to quran 971.

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      The peace be with you dear reader, because I currently feel like I got a headache or something. So I come here and post the following said to me

      Anyone with the help of allah willing to provide an answer to this, because I'm sure what that person is telling me... it just doesn't sound reasonable. I was going to ask that person to provide evidence from the quran, but it's better if I ask here since one or two of you may know something about the above argument from the quran. In the past I would have spent time searching for an answer myself, but... Inshallah some of you could help if you are to quran 971.

      What is the question about ?
      Do they mean use verses in arabic ? use both, arabic and english, I always do that because many translations are made by people who have certain beliefs, sunnis translate according to their belief, inser words in parenthese, shiaa also , as well as submitters, they all insert their ideas in parentheses, therefore I didn't find any pure translation so far, the reason I always post verses in arabic as well, so i be postiing the words of god 100% with the translation
      or what is the question ?
      is it about this ?

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        Mazhar
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        (There is a Hadith according to which the Prophet is quoted to have said that Solomon was so determined to beget for himself a strong and ideal heir that he cohabited with his ninety wives in the same night and declared to his people that each would bear him a son worthy of occupying his throne after his death. But contrary to expectations, none of them conceived except one, who gave birth to a weakling.
        This, said the Prophet, was because he forgot to say God willing, - or inshallah , - on account of which his wish was not granted by Allah).

        That stupid rather an idiot who concocted this story even did not care to think for a while about the time required to copulate with ninety women and the duration of a night. And that stupid also did not know that men require a period of time- a gap before they could incline for going second time for sex.

        Attributing any thing to any Messenger of Allah which is not specifically written in Qur'aan is a haram act.

        No sane and rational person announces in public about his intention of having sex with his wife on any particular night.

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