Constitution in Final Draft (Please Read)
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- Article I 7. Citizens are deemed as those persons who carry the nationality at the time of implementing this constitution. The law shall grant citizenship to any person who is legally residing within the borders of the republic and applies for such citizenship at the time of the implementation of this Constitution.
Why only at the time of implementation? Shouldn't everyone be accepted into the ideal state, so long as they're not trying to destroy it or something?
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Dear Layth,
The words are beautiful in your constitution as in other constitutions but the problem remains the same. The problem is not words but how they are interpreted or overlapped at different places and under different situations.
Laws must be interpreted precisely under all circumstances, only then it can be called perfect law. Every person?s fears must be answered and if his fears are answered precisely, only then force will not be needed to implement that law.
If you leave the law to be understood by a line then it will be like giving a free ride to the one in power to interpret whatever way he seems fit at the moment of making the law. Same thing is done by the people at all times and you are not an exception.
Let me give you my understanding about what law must be like and not by just saying law will be according to Quran.
Here is an example of my understanding of open lewdness according to Quran.
According to my understanding open lewdness is all the actions which can be interpreted as a sexual exploitation of opposite sex or misconduct in public.
- Kissing or holding hands in public by opposite or same sexes even if they are husband and wife.
- Displaying of sexual parts of the body man or woman alike even under the clothes in public. i.e. wearing tight, thin or see through clothes or by any actions such as running of a women in public without wearing blouse so that her bosoms movement can be seen or man running in public wearing tight see through shirt and underwear.
- Publicly announcing same sex marriages.
- Publicly using words or sentences to abuse or attract someone physically.
If you look at the above then you will see that my understanding is that God is only prohibiting us publicly and we can do whatever we want in our houses. It may be right or wrong according to different people in this forum that is why we need the clear interpretation of what we say in one word. So according to my interpretations it is completely safe to do whatever you want in your houses even though it is wrong according to God.
We can make the law that There will be no worshiping publicly. Every religion can have buildings of worships and we can make the law that no one can publicly show their way of worshiping whatsoever it is, or publicly arranging the gathering regarding religion.
Above are the examples of laws and all these presentation of Laws can be made Laws if voted by 2/3(75%) of the public accepting it otherwise it will be the duty of the elected people or the people or those who want that law to be made public law to make people understand the benefits of that law for a limited time publicly. Another way is that authority is given to council that law can be passed by the council as trial law for limited period (accept by the people) for the people to see its benefits or losses.
Idea of electing council is right but the eligibility is not given and the way it is done today it becomes useless due to lots of reasons. That can be discussed later.
Regards.
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I agree with Asfandyar concerning the age.
Persons eligible for the national council must be citizens, male or female, forty years of age or older, of sound mind and character and must be residents of the district they are elected from.
why 40? age cant be an argument in here. some 18 year old could be more adequate for the job than best of us in fourties. )
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I agree with Asfandyar concerning the age.
why 40? age cant be an argument in here. some 18 year old could be more adequate for the job than best of us in fourties. )
An 18 year old does not have anywhere near as much experience as a 40 year old. As smart as he or she may be I dont believe that people under 40 should be allowed to run for the highest office as they have not seen and experienced enough of life to know how to handle complicated situations.
On a different note,
I highly disapprove of the way that Mr.Obama became president and gathered support media manipulation.
As great a person as he may be, I dont believe that anyone running for president should be given so much more media attention than his rival. Can you imagine someone sweet talking the country, becoming popular and then assuming power? ahem Bush ahem
I think someone mentioned the fact it seems in America there are a lot more (excuse my language) stupid voters than smart, informed people. In my experience it is a lot easier to show propaganda down the throat of the uninformed voter.And on the issue of weapons. I think anyone of age (18+) and of sound mind and character should be allowed to buy weapons and keep them for defense. This would be to keep the balance between the civilians and the government. Anyone who would want to coup the government would have to think twice about how much dissent there might be laugh
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An 18 year old does not have anywhere near as much experience as a 40 year old. As smart as he or she may be I dont believe that people under 40 should be allowed to run for the highest office as they have not seen and experienced enough of life to know how to handle complicated situations.
On a different note,
20 The power to call for a public militia in defence of the republic and its lands. (Quran 865)
And on the issue of weapons. I think anyone of age (18+) and of sound mind and character should be allowed to buy weapons and keep them for defense. This would be to keep the balance between the civilians and the government. Anyone who would want to coup the government would have to think twice about how much dissent there might be laugh
And the public militia has to be ready to defend the republic at any and all times.
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I don't get the quranic constitution, it doesn't make sense that you would add quran verses next to words. If this does go through and chiristians and jews start living here (under the freedom of religion of course) there going to want biblical verses in the constitution....so it's not going to make much sense
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ASA, Layth
one vital point has been missed altogether in the constitution. The interpretation of Quranic Law when it comes to the point of meting out JUSTICE. Who decides upon the correct interpretation. As things are there seem to be so many interpretations that it is virtually impossible to determine the correct one and apply it.
