Allah is not god, nor the god and has noting to do with the word god

loxbox13

Peace Lox,

Surah 114, as I posted above.

I'd like my questions answered as well.

I know what you mean, Ahad means unique ! Allah is unique, same, The Law , the real law of nature and existance is unique, it does not begot nor is begotten, it is always there, always been and will always be, no one can break this Law of existance, Allah is the Law, and only Law, there is no other law that can create or that can make people prosper.

Jinn

I know what you mean, Ahad means unique ! Allah is unique, same, The Law , the real law of nature and existance is unique, it does not begot nor is begotten, it is always there, always been and will always be, no one can break this Law of existance, Allah is the Law, and only Law, there is no other law that can create or that can make people prosper.

Peace,

Again, answer my questions.

If there is no God, why does the "All Law" command us to take refuge in the Ilah, or God, of mankind?
If there is no God, then who is Satan?

loxbox13

Peace,

Again, answer my questions.

If there is no God, why does the "All Law" command us to take refuge in the Ilah, or God, of mankind?
If there is no God, then who is Satan?

brother, we are all mislead, muslims are the most mislead people on the planet, as well as christians and jews
atheists are the closest to the truth, but still, atheists if they have morality and believe in the future life, they'd be the true musilms.
there is no god in the concept of monotheism, it's all wrong, all religions are ashtray and led by Shaitan
Allah is the law, and we can not call Our Rabb , one, as if the number one, because Rabb is not one, and the creator of all is not one, he's not two neither nor three nor 1 billion, there is no number added, there is no monotheisme nor trinitarians, they're the same in Sin. saying Allh is one, is the same as saying Allah is three.

Satan also doesn't exist in the judeo-chretian concept, they created this name to misslead us
Shaitan in english in Enchantement , it's like backward words, played in music subliminal to interfere with the minds of people, or symbols used to interfere with the streem of life , shaitan is men who hide their identity and purpose, Jinn imeans hidden, Jinn are men like us and we don't know what they really do in their rituels and their plans.
There is no Satan, but there is Shaitane

Jinn

brother, we are all mislead, muslims are the most mislead people on the planet, as well as christians and jews
atheists are the closest to the truth, but still, atheists if they have morality and believe in the future life, they'd be the true musilms.
there is no god in the concept of monotheism, it's all wrong, all religions are ashtray and led by Shaitan
Allah is the law, and we can not call Our Rabb , one, as if the number one, because Rabb is not one, and the creator of all is not one, he's not two neither nor three nor 1 billion, there is no number added, there is no monotheisme nor trinitarians, they're the same in Sin. saying Allh is one, is the same as saying Allah is three.

Satan also doesn't exist in the judeo-chretian concept, they created this name to misslead us
Shaitan in english in Enchantement , it's like backward words, played in music subliminal to interfere with the minds of people, or symbols used to interfere with the streem of life , shaitan is men who hide their identity and purpose, Jinn imeans hidden, Jinn are men like us and we don't know what they really do in their rituels and their plans.
There is no Satan, but there is Shaitane

Quit dancing around my questions, answer them directly and stop making me read baseless rhetoric.

You have not given one single proof to any of your claims of the nonexistence of God and the apparent sentience of the known universe.

If there is no God, then tell me why the Holy Qur'an in Surah 114 directly orders me to seek refuge in the God of mankind.

If you are claiming that it is an insertion, then I will kindly ask you to state your case as to why the Qur'an was not protected as stated in 159

"Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian."

I will expect fully detailed proofs with references.

Now, to address your Satan ramblings
the word "Shaitan" is derived from the Hebrew "ha-Satan" which means "the adversary" and is first seen articulated in the Book of Job in the Hebrew Bible

The English word "Satan" does not mean "Enchantment" it means "The Adversary" just as it meant in the Hebrew form "ha-Satan" More poetic sub-definitions have defined "Satan" as being "The Enchanter" but not "Enchantment" which is defined as "the art, act or instance of enchanting OR the state of being enchanted OR something that enchants"

The problem with your theory is that you forget that in every language, every definition, Satan is referred to as being personified, i.e. Satan is a being or even simpler, Satan exists. This is irrefutably proven in the original Hebrew, where "ha" gives personification to "satan" which means "adversary" thus making it "the adversary"

Again, in Christianity, we see the concept of Satan when Jesus is tempted by him.

it's like backward words, played in music subliminal to interfere with the minds of people, or symbols used to interfere with the streem of life

Oh, so we're going to get into mysticism now, are we?

Show me one symbol I can draw right now that will directly interfere with the stream of life.

Also, backwards words in music.... are backwards words in music. I'm currently studying to be a sound engineer and I've been a musician for the better part of 7 years. Don't even try to sway me with that idiotic drivel.

Jinn

I had to answer this separately.

Jinn imeans hidden, Jinn are men like us and we don't know what they really do in their rituels and their plans.

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And He created the jinn from a smokeless flame of fire.

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And the jinn We created before from scorching fire.

Jinn is the plural of "jinni" which is simply defined as "A class of spirits lower than the angels who are capable of shapeshifting and influencing mankind"

Again, you provide no basis for your definitions and thus I can only conclude that you're either making baseless, self assertive claims or just simply trying to meld some pseudoreligious philosophy with Qur'an.

CavemanDoctor

Jinn,

You're going to have to chill out a bit. Tone it down a few notches.

Jinn

Peace,

My apologies and duly noted. A firm touch is what I'm unfortunately known for.

Kaiokenred

If to be a muslim is to be an atheist, and whoever is a muslim accepted Islam, then why does it say in Quran that Islam's founder was ALWAYS a monotheist?

rahenijaat1

Peace!

brother, we are all mislead, muslims are the most mislead people on the planet, as well as christians and jews
atheists are the closest to the truth, but still, atheists if they have morality and believe in the future life, they'd be the true musilms.
there is no god in the concept of monotheism, it's all wrong, all religions are ashtray and led by Shaitan
Allah is the law, and we can not call Our Rabb , one, as if the number one, because Rabb is not one, and the creator of all is not one, he's not two neither nor three nor 1 billion, there is no number added, there is no monotheisme nor trinitarians, they're the same in Sin. saying Allh is one, is the same as saying Allah is three.

Satan also doesn't exist in the judeo-chretian concept, they created this name to misslead us
Shaitan in english in Enchantement , it's like backward words, played in music subliminal to interfere with the minds of people, or symbols used to interfere with the streem of life , shaitan is men who hide their identity and purpose, Jinn imeans hidden, Jinn are men like us and we don't know what they really do in their rituels and their plans.
There is no Satan, but there is Shaitane

The above quote is your own fabrications. Nothing can be proved on The Holy and Exalted Quran.

mmkhan

Excuse me brother, but still all these verses doesn't mean Allah is a God, but the Law of All that exist, Translate Allah with the word Law in your verses and you will see it's perfect, a perfect Law that rule everything that exist, and we shall choose to follow the Law of All that exist to be in harmony with all that exist.

OK, let me try.

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11 In the name of LAW, the Almighty, the Merciful.

Is LAW also 'AlRahmaan' and 'AlRaheem'?

12
12 The Praise be to LAW, Lord of the worlds.

LAW has to be praised? And is LAW also a Lord of the worlds?

220
220 The lightning nearly snatches their sight, whenever it lights the path they walk in it, and when it becomes dark for them they stand. Had LAW willed, He would have taken their hearing and their sight; LAW is capable of all things.

And if LAW wills? LAW can take your hearing and sight? LAW is capable of all things? Oh Allah, help us.

255
255 And you said O Moses, we will not believe you until we see LAW openly! So the lightning strike took you while you were still staring.

Why lightning strike the those who ask Musa (AS) to show them the LAW openly?

274
274 Then your hearts became hardened after that, they became like stone or even harder; but even from stone there are rivers that burst forth, and from them are those that crack so that the water comes forth, and from them are what descends from concern towards LAW; and LAW is not unaware of what you do.

From stones fall down for fear of the LAW? LAW is aware of everything we do?

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2116 And they said LAW has taken a son! Be He glorified. To Him is all that is in the heavens and the earth, all are dutiful to Him.

They said LAW has taken a son?? Oh please! Is everything in heavens and earth belongs to the LAW?

2159
2159 Surely those who conceal what We have sent down to them of the clarities and the guidance, after We Had made it clear for the people in the Book; these will be cursed by LAW and be cursed by those who curse.

Those are cursed by the LAW? How could LAW curse anyone?

564
564 And the Jews said The hand of LAW is tied-down! Their hands will be tied-down, and they will be cursed for what they have said. No, His hands are wide open spending as He wills. And for many of them, what has been sent down to you will increase them in rebellion and rejection; and We have cast between them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. Every time they ignite the fire of war, LAW puts it out; and they seek to make corruption in the land; and LAW does not love the corrupters.

LAW's hand is tied-down, they say? Oh! LAW's hands are widely open and IT spends how IT wills? Oh comm'on, this is enough. And also LAW does not love the corrupters?

695
695 Indeed LAW is the splitter of the seeds and the grains; He brings the living out from the dead and He brings the dead out from the living. Such is the LAW; so why are you deluded?

LAW can split seeds and grains? Wow! I was not knowing it. And LAW can brings the living out of dead and also brings the dead out of living? SUCH IS THE LAW? hmm

2014
2014 I am LAW, there is no god except Me, so serve Me and hold the contact prayer for My remembrance.

Wowww! I AM THE LAW, hey btw how will translate the other part "there is no ilaha/god except ME " or "there is no law except ME "? Serve the LAW? And perform Salaat for the remembrance of the LAW?

How can the LAW say "I AM THE LAW"?

Brother, I tried as you said, and I could not find even a single aayat fits as you claim. Can you please answer the questions I made above, please no twisting of words, just simple Cut-To-The-Point answer.

Awaiting your details reply on this.

May Allah help you understand and accept the truth and guide us all to His only path pr
Mohammed M. Khan

Kaiokenred