Peacmakers Flag (visual poetry)
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Hey where's the SYAHADA and the SWORD???
It's not a TRUE ISLAM flag withough SYAHADA and the SWORD!!This is the TRUE ISLAM flag!!
http//wwp.asia-countries.net/saudi-arabia/images/saudi-arabia-flag.jpgMeanings
Syahada is the basic tenet of ISLAM!!
Islam is a peaceful religion!!
Those who dare to said otherwise deserves death through the sword!!
Arrrghh!!Salam / Peace
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Ok now on 'serious' side..
Edip,
I have a suggestion for revision based on the statement found in your site."The intention of this project is to provide spring-board or support for the intellectuals of the population in the ?Middle East,? a population that have long time being oppressed and repressed by authoritarian, corrupt regimes and their imperialist masters in the West."
My suggestion
The intention of this project is to provide spring-board or support for the intellectuals and liberty of the population in the ?Middle East,? a population that have long time oppressed and enslaved each others over silly and ridiculous matters (e.g. Arabs over Turkic in Umayyad era, Turkic over Arabs in Ottoman era, Turkic over Armenians in Ottoman era, Christians over Jews in Byzantium era, Jews over Christians in Sassanid era, Jews over Arabs in Modern Israel era, Arabs over Jews in Arab Nationalism era etc...) and repressed by authoritarian, corrupt, hypocrite regimes and their imperialist masters in the West mind controlling, brain washing, power and politically motivated indoctrinating masters. Whomever they are.Salam / Peace
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lolwut
Peacemaker Curled into a fetal position to the 19th power (I count 19 hexagons? Really?), with their leader trapped, only seeing the stars.PS Perhaps some people, especially among our innumerate friends (and a few numerate ones), will get bewildered/upset/angry/furious/mad/scared/shocked/ after they count the number of stars; but there are many good stuff out there that make many upset. I cannot help them )
Aww. Don't flatter yourself. You might want to get off that high horse, oh Starry Knight.
p.s. we didn't need to count the stars, or have you bring up their count to know it'd be a 19 multiple. We are quiet aware of your obsession, you know. Upset? Not at all. Too busy giggling at the so called 'symbolism'.
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lolwut Peacemaker Curled into a fetal position to the 19th power (I count 19 hexagons? Really?)
This "too busy giggling" guy forgets that once he was a fetus and that all the past and new generations were and are the product of miraculous work intensified during the 266 days in mother's womb.
It is sad that the nationalistic propaganda that associates flag with show of power is so much powerful, a flag that demonstrates respect for human life and peaceful co-existence is considered like Martian's flag.
It is also noteworthy, that another person praises the dualistic shahada (kalima-i tasniya) over a sword, the flag of one of the most repressive, backward and corrupt governments...
Peace.
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Peace to all,
The weird thing about this peacemakers constitution is that it sounds alot like the american constitution. Maybe we arent so bad after all, if we would just stop invading other countries and taking care of ourselves at home we would be what we once were.
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It is sad that the nationalistic propaganda that associates flag with show of power is so much powerful, a flag that demonstrates respect for human life and peaceful co-existence is considered like Martian's flag.
It is also noteworthy, that another person praises the dualistic shahada (kalima-i tasniya) over a sword, the flag of one of the most repressive, backward and corrupt governments...
For comparison's sake, i like Lennon's white 'flag' much better. Much more direct.
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For comparison's sake, i like Lennon's white 'flag' much better. Much more direct.
Dido's wasn't that bad either, might appeal to the newer generations.
It is also noteworthy, that another person praises the dualistic shahada (kalima-i tasniya) over a sword, the flag of one of the most repressive, backward and corrupt governments...
He was being sarcastic Edip. Why do we even need a flag. -
That flag -- and having any flag, for that matter -- is just pointless.
No controversy. No one's upset.
Intention. And execution. Often a sizable gap between the two.
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Peace Edip, all
How about making a flag with a white background and writing "the peacemakers" and its translations in every language (with its own characters) all over the flag, maybe in an artistic way. Also, I consider "the peaceables" to be nearer in meaning to almuslimeene, but that just my opinion.
Definition of PEACEABLE
1
a disposed to peace not contentious or quarrelsome
b quietly behaved
2
free from strife or disorder
English Peaceable
Albanian paqedash?s
German friedlich
Armenian
Azeri dava-dalasz
Bulgarian
Chinese
Spanish pac?fico
Arabic
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(this is a raw translation from google)
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This "too busy giggling" guy forgets that once he was a fetus and that all the past and new generations were and are the product of miraculous work intensified during the 266 days in mother's womb.
It is sad that the nationalistic propaganda that associates flag with show of power is so much powerful, a flag that demonstrates respect for human life and peaceful co-existence is considered like Martian's flag.
It is also noteworthy, that another person praises the dualistic shahada (kalima-i tasniya) over a sword, the flag of one of the most repressive, backward and corrupt governments...
Peace.
This "Too busy enumerated by Count 19 Guy"* forgets that the duration of each gestation period is NOT 266.
... I was once a fetus. I'll be sure to put that on a bumper sticker.It is sad that the nationalistic propaganda that associates flag with show of power is so much powerful, a flag that demonstrates respect for human life and peaceful co-existence is considered like Martian's flag.
Who is your audience, Edip? Who is this flag aimed towards? "Muslims"? Humanity? I did read Article XIII, as a matter of point. Who will be in position(s) to use this flag? Finally, as others have already asked you before--why have a flag at all?
Culturally, a fetal position has very specific connotations standing for fear/despair/anxiety. In another words, as already pointed out, what you intend by a symbol equals not its function/execution. Surely you know this? You're trying to be 'symbolic' with this flag, but the fetal position thing you take literally?
What this really 'symbolizes' is the fact that you pick and choose. You use the counts, the number 19, the Golden Ratio, in a symbolic way, but the fetal position you intend quite literally.*as a sidenote might make a neat vampire story, brb.
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peace all,
My first reaction to this flag was also lolwut (laugh out loud, what?)
If I had to go with a flag, I'd go with a white background with the arabic for one (I think its wahid) in the middle and the english translation "one" underneath it.
Implying a theme of oneness, with white symbolising peace/surrender/submission. The arabic and english symbolising a fusion of east and west, a togetherness.
I think most will find that better.
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*as a sidenote might make a neat vampire story, brb.
Muppets were cool. Vun Tu Tree, never stopped at 19 though.How about making a flag with a white background and writing "the peacemakers" and its translations in every language (with its own characters) all over the flag, maybe in an artistic way.
Neat idea someone, has been done by Unicef I think before...or some such charity as a concept.This is just odd and a homage to 19ism, not to peacemaking/peaceable um people or what have you.
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peace all,
My first reaction to this flag was also lolwut (laugh out loud, what?)
If I had to go with a flag, I'd go with a white background with the arabic for one (I think its wahid) in the middle and the english translation "one" underneath it.
Implying a theme of oneness, with white symbolising peace/surrender/submission. The arabic and english symbolising a fusion of east and west, a togetherness.
I think most will find that better.
North & South would be upset but not bad.
Edip can have a 9 on the other side of his personal flag if needed.
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Salaam all,
Suggestions of Someone and Wakas is nice.
My suggestion How if we mix those two idea and make a flag? In center it will say "Ahad" and the rest area is covered with "The Peacemakers" in all the different languages. I like this idea.
But at this time, do we really need a flag? hmm
May Allah guide us pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
Peace Edip, all
How about making a flag with a white background and writing "the peacemakers" and its translations in every language (with its own characters) all over the flag, maybe in an artistic way. Also, I consider "the peaceables" to be nearer in meaning to almuslimeene, but that just my opinion.
....Fantastic idea. Let's do it. I think the word PEACE would suffice. An interlocking and tangled maze of different alphabets in different color could be a great art and message. I will ask my friends to do this.
I would like to get your name so that I could you give you credit for this beautiful idea.
PS BTW we added the color green into the Peacemakers Flag.. I will make the change at the one published at www.19.org. I am not sure whether I can modify this one.
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You use the counts, the number 19, the Golden Ratio, in a symbolic way, but the fetal position you intend quite literally.
Good point, good observation, Jack.
Yes, if this is a flaw, this would be the flaw of this flag; a flawed flag! But, we do all the time mix symbols with literal ideas. All the time. Read articles, read poetry... However, fetus is both literal and symbolic. It is about HUMANITY, regardless of gender and color. I could not find a better symbol than a fetus (with no sexual, ethnic cannotation). Besides, it also relays care and compassion of mothers, which is very ignored by flag-waving savages (I do not mean the carrots here
Peace,
Edip -
peace all,
My first reaction to this flag was also lolwut (laugh out loud, what?)
If I had to go with a flag, I'd go with a white background with the arabic for one (I think its wahid) in the middle and the english translation "one" underneath it.
Implying a theme of oneness, with white symbolising peace/surrender/submission. The arabic and english symbolising a fusion of east and west, a togetherness.
I think most will find that better.
Lovely idea, Wakas. I will open a flag design competition and I will put a monetary award for it. Mashallah!
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North & South would be upset but not bad.
Edip can have a 9 on the other side of his personal flag if needed.Now, I see the signs of intelligent life in the carrotland )
Peace,
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But at this time, do we really need a flag? hmm
May Allah guide us pr
Mohammed M. KhanWhy not, Mohammed? It is a VISUAL summary of purpose or values or it is a VISUAL NAME TAG. Do you need a name? Do you need poetry? Do you need bicyle? Do you need to answer me? Well, we may not need it, but having a flag, a dozen, or even nineteen of them is fun, it is inspiring.
Peace,
Edip
