We are certainly not equal in rank with them.
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I had seen that, but i don't see any relevance. Nowhere in this aya Quran talks about your theory.
Kindly show me here in sura 48 what you are boasting. If God wanted to convey what you are alleging, HE could have mentioned that here in 48.
siki
This shows that you even did not give thought to the word irself-Al-Fathe. It denotes conquest of a particular land/city/country not abstract victory in your imagination. It refers to a hard ground reality.
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Allah, the Exalted has classified the Believers of Mohammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam and the Grand Qur'aan in two groups. The classification is with reference to the Event of the Conquest of the Sanctified City of Mecca. The Believers, men and women, of the period immediately before this Event are the First Group and are declared as the great over all others, the other Group, who became or become believers after that Event. This greatness is with reference to their elevated Rank and position over all other believers of Mohammad Sal'lallaa'hoalaih'wa'salam and the Grand Qur'aan, in time and space.
Salaam
I have been reading this threat and couldn't help joining in as this is a very valid reference to rejection of hediths.
All profits had helper or companions for example Mosa(AS) had his brother Haroon to help him and Isa (AS) had Hawareen so did Mahmud(PBUHH). Their companion are held in high regard not because they had more intelligence than the later generation but that these people were among the first believer and it was their faith in the messenger of their time that gave support and backing to messengers.
When Quran mentions those companions that should show the later generation that those companions held high ranks, after the death of the prophet carried on with deen as taught by the prophet yet they never passed on or recorded any hediths/saying of the prophet.The object is not to narrate their stories or idolize them but to convey the message that people around prophet of their time carried on practicing according to the sunnah of the prophet. There is a huge difference between sunnah and hadith and I hope people grasp the difference.
Here on free minds people are struggling to understand message of the Quran which was made easy to us through the practice of the Prophet, as he were chosen to convey the message he had ability to apply the message in practice so Prophet Mohammad knew exactly how and when to start fasting and this tradition was followed by his close companions after his death.
Simpls
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Intelligence.. It?s strange how someone can posess the intelligence to pick apart the Quran semantically, and still not understand a word it says.
I once met a christian like this. He understood God, to the point of transcendence. However, even if the same phrases were used in the Quran, he continued claiming it was a "moon God".Just a little test for Mazhar. Who is the more exalted, companion, or noncompanion fighting a parallel war under a parallel messenger. You are aware of the quranic statement "all people have had their messengers". So who is the better? And who is the better from earlier believers, the messengers are not at odds. Say from Adams time, there were probably wars aswell then. Who are the better? What if there are wars in current time, are they below the companions?
This would explode his thinking I guess, if he were to answer right.
But all he can do is overlook it, and be annoying, and pretend it`s not there.
"Those who provoked your anger". Yes, this is provocative and pretensious behaviour. Just like imitating someone else.Imagine the grossness felt by the real early followers of the Quran, if they knew this deviant love, existed for them. Ofcourse it can barely be said that Hadith truthfully depicts anyone from that time so.. I scratch my head. Going from the excellent Quran, to rubbish writings, and not telling the difference.
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This shows that you even did not give thought to the word irself-Al-Fathe. It denotes conquest of a particular land/city/country not abstract victory in your imagination. It refers to a hard ground reality.
Mazhar , salalm.
Is the word Al fatah (conquest) only used for Fatah e Mecca in Arabic ?Brother , there couldnt be a better depiction of you than what paradox has summed up below.
Intelligence.. It?s strange how someone can posess the intelligence to pick apart the Quran semantically, and still not understand a word it says.
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Mazhar , salalm.
Is the word Al fatah (conquest) only used for Fatah e Mecca in Arabic ?Brother , there couldnt be a better depiction of you than what paradox has summed up below.
That is the fault-line which is not permitting you to perceive simple things. Al-Fateh does not mean "conquest". The word, Fateh, placed solitary in a dictionary means "victory, conquest". When it is spoken in a context with "Al" prefixed it refers and signifies only a specific event of conquest, known both to the Speaker and Listener.
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That is the fault-line which is not permitting you to perceive simple things. Al-Fateh does not mean "conquest". The word, Fateh, placed solitary in a dictionary means "victory, conquest". When it is spoken in a context with "Al" prefixed it refers and signifies only a specific event of conquest, known both to the Speaker and Listener.
I dont find " Al fatah" ( The conquest) in sura 48 in connection to Fatah e mecca anywhere, all it is saying is
we gave you victory (fatah) indeed a clear great victory (fatahan mubeena)
siki
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You made it Al fatah, i accept your logic and ask you to show me Al with fatah, you tell me 48-24,27, but i dont find it there , and ask you again , and this time you reply me with learn grammer regarding AL ???, what are you trying? brickwall
I am asking you again where is " AL" in 48-24, 27 as per your assertion, kindly post the ayas in original arabic text and show me
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Siki,
I hope this striking might have removed the clot blocking understanding a simple point.
Surat 48 describes the victory with indefinite word and then links it to the specific city. In Surat 57 the word is made definite with Definite Article "Al". I advised you to read about "al". This Al is called / which indicates familiarity with the object due to it being previously known to both the speaker and listener.