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Ignorant pricks..

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    MesMorial
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    Read the comments of "ringmaster"

    http//forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=9200&start=20

    Peace.

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      Sirius
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      I blame not only their ignorance, but the somewhat accurate claims they're making. It's sharia who preaches the mess portion of Islam and I bet you if Islam did operate under the belief the Quran is the only legitimate source (meaning after that it's your own logic and common sense applied to YOUR life.

      I think in some ways you're very right. The way some people go about expressing their views is deplorable, but you have to think that some of their concerns are legitimate in thought. From what I've seen of more traditional leaning Muslims bought up in western environments, implementing a legal system based on the traditional understanding of Islam isn't a goal of theirs or something they would even like to see happen, even if they do show sympathies to it. Of course there are some traditional Muslims who would like to live under the traditional understanding of Islamic law without knowing the full implications it. I think that's just idealism for the most part and almost a feeling of being obliged to support it as it's peddled by the clergy as a utopian sort of concept. Then there are those who consciously understand and some that strive for Islamic government, although not necessarily in western countries.

      The influence of this third type is what I think is being misleadingly overrepresented by these protesters and all others like them around Europe and America. The views of this very traditional type of Muslim are pushed as absolutely authentic and compulsory for every Muslim to believe not only by themselves but by such protesters, which is strange. I don't personally understand why, when there is a wealth of diversity in thought between Muslims (and always has been), the staunchest, most literal interpretation of Islam should be championed as Islam's bastion.

      I suppose that if something challenges your own cultural views too abruptly and unforgivingly, we're bound to see what we're seeing in reaction to Muslim communities. It's just ignorance mainly, from either sides. There appears to be a lack of sensitivity from the Muslim side to the cultural norms of western society. It's simply not something normal to cover your face in a little suburb or a city centre and people don't understand it. On the flip-side, people express themselves through their clothing, having an opinion is okay, telling other people what to wear is not.

      Okay, I'm ranting now. The point I think I was trying to make is, to be concerned when your culture or way of life is being challenged is completely normal, which is why the upset on either 'side' is totally understandable. Some people have more decorum than others when expressing their grievances, this is true. I think some of these grievances wouldn't even exist if there was a little more tolerance and understanding and less irrational extremism going around.

      The people in the video are very brazen though. Audacity and stupidity seem to be common bedfellows.

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        nsws1988
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        The video is no longer available

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          nimnimak_11
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          Read the comments of "ringmaster"

          http//forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=9200&start=20

          Peace.

          It's pretty obvious he/she wants to have an image of you that is bad no matter what goodness or peaceful approach you have regarding him/her. I woudn't think on it. It would just frustrate.

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            No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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            The video is no longer available

            Alternate video http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkZhAtNfcBE

            I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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              nsws1988
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              Alternate video http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkZhAtNfcBE

              Thanks. That is some crazy stuff. The title of this thread is just perfect.

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                Meteora
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                Read the comments of "ringmaster"

                http//forum09.faithfreedom.org/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=9200&start=20

                Peace.

                I freaking lol'd @ his sig...

                A muslim woman must dress as if her entire body were one gigantic vagina.

                The koran was written especially to give the prophet access to lots of vagina.

                The black stone at Mecca is shaped like a vagina.

                Therefore allah is the god of the vagina.

                lulz

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                  Jafar
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                  Aah... here's the view from 'the other side'..
                  http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=is29KAIHXfA

                  So this is about "Two SECTARIANS group" hating and (trying) to kill each others...
                  Good.. let them do it... and the world shall be a better place..

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                    Paradox_Uncreated
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                    So much hatred in sectarian teachings.

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                      Jafar
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                      So much hatred in sectarian teachings.

                      Yup and sometime racist too...

                      It remind me of "Protestant B" tag for the "American Jewish Soldier" stationed in Saudi Arabia, to defend them from Iraqis/Saddam aggression.
                      Given "Any Jew" who set foot on the "Holy" Saudi Arabian soil shall tainted the land to be 'unholy'...
                      Yet oddly enough they accept Kissinger (which is a jew) visiting the 'holy land'..

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