verse 20:20 (hayyatun)
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Peace be upon you MZ,
you misunderstand dear sister,i didn't say the meaning of the word was wrong it is partly right ,i said it is not the stick that comes alive.
when your attention is on your stick,or your pencil,or your hat and you are sitting in a class to learn ,you tell us what will your teacher say to you.
Put it down,and pay attention - that is what has happened here.Allah told moses to put the stick or throw it away and pay attention and thus then allahs teaching comes alive,
Please elaborate on this understanding MZ. How does it apply to the story of Musa and the magicians, when Musa told the magicians to "throw first"?
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Good luck with your migical powers sabo,i was hoping you arabs will use those against the poor americans.Gosh i missed it.
Salaams.
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Peace be upon you MZ,
Please elaborate on this understanding MZ. How does it apply to the story of Musa and the magicians, when Musa told the magicians to "throw first"?
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Salaams idol,sabo,shuaob,all,
Heres the magic bullet - as the translation goesUsing lanes and or/qd
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So threw his stick (away) then brought under authority/behold it was (like a)flowing torent seperating /severing /disuniting and yearned /longed /desired means /favour /generousity and brought under authority/behold it(was) clear (asked them) will not you consider.
Sorry idol this is something i picked up from you and agree with it ,even if you don't anymore.
Bye.
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Peace be upon you MZ,
Heres the magic bullet - as the translation goesUsing lanes and or/qd
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So threw his stick (away) then brought under authority/behold it was (like a)flowing torent seperating /severing /disuniting and yearned /longed /desired means /favour /generousity and brought under authority/behold it(was) clear (asked them) will not you consider.
Sorry idol this is something i picked up from you and agree with it ,even if you don't anymore.
I missed what the bullet was, and I am unsure as to what you are saying you got from me. Please elaborate brother, you confused me with that last post.
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Sorry i just meant your views on the sticks changing into snakes.
forget the bullet bit.thanks.
I was just looking into the staff in the lanes and came accross this ,may interest some brothers,like hafeez,aymaan.
(2632)Alkaa asaahu =(exect words as in the quran)(Lit he through down his staff)Meaning he steyed and rested and ceased from journeys,having reached his place.Applied to him to whom an affair has become suitable and who has therefor kept to it;or who made firm his tent-pegs,and pitched his tent,or stayed,like him who has returned from his journey.
And i think my above translation can thus be improved.Thanks.
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Salam MZ,
Good luck with your migical powers sabo,i was hoping you arabs will use those against the poor americans.Gosh i missed it.
Is this your standard of argumentation? That is no high standard at all, and I don't seek such kind of discussion. Going to personal insults shows a poor standard and lack of argument
Salam
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Salam MZ,
Good luck with your migical powers sabo,i was hoping you arabs will use those against the poor americans.Gosh i missed it.
Is this your standard of argumentation? That is no high standard at all, and I don't seek such kind of discussion. Going to personal insults shows a poor standard and lack of argument
Salam
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peace all,
We should consider the whole verses about this subject.
The word "ghanamee" is a key word.
- He said ?It is my staff, I lean on it, and I guide my sheep with it, and I have other uses in it.?
Qala hiya AAasaya atawakkaoAAalayha waahushshu biha AAala ghanamee waliya feeha maaribu okhra
albaqari waalghanami / the cattle and the sheep (6146)
See also 2178
Now, we have the choice between believing that the language in the quran is clear, straightforward or following what is similar "ma tashaabaha minhu"
The stories of the previous generations belong to the news of the unseen "alghayb", we know them through the quran.
Does Allah ask us to verify His word / His sign, what we know through His book?
- He is the One who sent down to you the Scripture, from which there are firm verses; they are the essence of the Scripture; and others which are similar to each other. As for those who have disease in their hearts, they will follow what is similar from it seeking to confuse, and seeking to derive an interpretation. But none know its interpretation except God and those who are well founded in knowledge say ?We believe in it, all is from our Lord.? And none will remember except the people of understanding.
May Allah guide us to the straight path
Marie
- He said ?It is my staff, I lean on it, and I guide my sheep with it, and I have other uses in it.?
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Salaam Sabo,
Salam Marie,
I didn't understand your post ops can you please explain a little bit more, how do you see that word ghanam (sheep) in relation with the staff?
thanks
Best regards,
saboThe staff/stick is a work tool for the shepherd (al-rraAAee)
It coul relieve the physical effort of the old persons.
Allah knows best
Marie
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Salam Marie,
The staff/stick is a work tool for the shepherd
Yes and who doubts that?
According to the arabic, which I know (there is a new arabic circulating arround nowadays) in 2020 the word heya refers to the ha in Alqaaha and as far as i could understand, Moses alqaa his staff, and heya is hayyatun after that.
Whatever this could mean, God knows best what is behind these words.
Best regards,
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Peace be upon you,
I am still lost at the end here. Marie, I am still unsure as to the point you were making.
Sabo
According to the arabic, which I know (there is a new arabic circulating arround nowadays) in 2020 the word heya refers to the ha in Alqaaha and as far as i could understand, Moses alqaa his staff, and heya is hayyatun after that.Can you translate that for me
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Peace be upon you Marie,
I was not asking for the translation of a verse, I was asking for translation of the response Sabo gave which was
in 2020 the word heya refers to the ha in Alqaaha and as far as i could understand, Moses alqaa his staff, and heya is hayyatun after that.
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About 2020
Arabic text
Faalqaha fa-itha hiya hayyatun tasAAa
Word for word
Faalqaha So he(Moses ) cast it (ha/fem sing) down
fa-itha hiya and she (hiya) became
hiya (fem, sing) refers to the stick (AAasaya (fem, sing in 201)hayyatun (fem sing) tasAAa (fem) vibrant/moving(tasAAa) with life (hayyatun)
I hope that helps