-=[ What is AlKitaab - 15 Q&As ]=-
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Salaam Fahad,
Salaam alaikum.
The relation between al-kitaab and al-quraan
Al-kitaab is revealed mufassil/detailed (6/114)
And al-quraan is the tafseel/detailing of al-kitaab (10/37)
I divided into such questions to avoid confusion and to get clear picture as there were many aayaats. )
Yes yes
AlKitaab is detailed and explained
And AlQuraan details AlKitaabMay Allah guide us all toward the Truth pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
Peace,
Thanks for this mmkhan.
I didn't really understand the relationship between al kitab and al quran.
41/3 A Book, its signs are detailed , a quran flawless/arabic for a people who know.
So here, al kitab is being describes as a quran. What does that mean?
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Salaam
Al-Quraan = The reading.
Al-Kitaab = The writing.Al-Quran is the scripture with 114 surahs. This is the scripture which contains revelations of God. This scripture details everything we need to know, to live a life according to the permanent values in our deen.
Al-Kitaab is the Book of the Universe/Nature/Life/Creation. Everything that happens in the universe will be recorded in this book. Al-Kitaab explains everything. For instance, Al-Quraan tells us that we should give charity. But Al-Kitaab explains in detail, what type of charity is the best type. Another example is the following. Al-Quraan does not explain everything about life. It only explains what we need to know, when it comes to matters of deen. Al-Quraan does not explain how to create a mathematical formula. Or how to build a house. But if people study Al-Kitab (the universe) they can learn these things.
Al-Kitaab is the book that records everything in the Universe. It records everything people have done. As I mentioned above, it is the book of universe.
And AlKitaab was displayed, so you see the criminals fearful of what is in it. And they say Woe to us! What is this AlKitaab that it does not leave out anything small or large but has counted it. And they found what they had done present. And your Lord does not wrong anyone.
And the record was displayed, so you see the criminals fearful of what is in it. And they say Woe to us! What is with this record that it does not leave out anything small or large but has counted it. And they found what they had done present. And your Lord does not wrong anyone. Quran 1849
Al-Kitaab is a guidance for Al-Muttaqeen
That is the Book in which there is no doubt, a guidance for Al-Muttaqeen.
Al-Quraan is a guide for mankind
A month of aspiration, in which the Quran was revealed; as a guide to the mankind and clarities from the guidance and the Criterion. Therefore, whoever of you witnesses the month, then let him fast therein. And whoever is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days. God wants to bring you ease and not to bring you hardship; and so that you may complete the count, and glorify God for what He has guided you, that you may be thankful.
So who is Al-Muttaqeen? And why is Al-kitaab only a guidance for Al-Muttaqeen? These are important question we should ask ourselves.
And with Him are the keys of the unseen, none know them except He. And He knows what is in the land and in the sea; and not a leaf falls except He knows of it; nor a seed in the darkness of the earth; nor anything moist or anything dry; all in a clear record.
As we can see from the verse above, Al-Kitaab contains everything. Everything is in this book/record.
This is my current understanding of these two quranic words (Al-Kitaab and Al-Quran).
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Salaam
Al-Quraan = The reading.
Al-Kitaab = The writing.Al-Quran is the scripture with 114 surahs. This is the scripture which contains revelations of God. This scripture details everything we need to know, to live a life according to the permanent values in our deen.
Al-Kitaab is the Book of the Universe/Nature/Life/Creation. Everything that happens in the universe will be recorded in this book. Al-Kitaab explains everything. For instance, Al-Quraan tells us that we should give charity. But Al-Kitaab explains in detail, what type of charity is the best type. Another example is the following. Al-Quraan does not explain everything about life. It only explains what we need to know, when it comes to matters of deen. Al-Quraan does not explain how to create a mathematical formula. Or how to build a house. But if people study Al-Kitab (the universe) they can learn these things.
Al-Kitaab is the book that records everything in the Universe. It records everything people have done. As I mentioned above, it is the book of universe.
And AlKitaab was displayed, so you see the criminals fearful of what is in it. And they say Woe to us! What is this AlKitaab that it does not leave out anything small or large but has counted it. And they found what they had done present. And your Lord does not wrong anyone.
And the record was displayed, so you see the criminals fearful of what is in it. And they say Woe to us! What is with this record that it does not leave out anything small or large but has counted it. And they found what they had done present. And your Lord does not wrong anyone. Quran 1849
Al-Kitaab is a guidance for Al-Muttaqeen
That is the Book in which there is no doubt, a guidance for Al-Muttaqeen.
Al-Quraan is a guide for mankind
A month of aspiration, in which the Quran was revealed; as a guide to the mankind and clarities from the guidance and the Criterion. Therefore, whoever of you witnesses the month, then let him fast therein. And whoever is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days. God wants to bring you ease and not to bring you hardship; and so that you may complete the count, and glorify God for what He has guided you, that you may be thankful.
So who is Al-Muttaqeen? And why is Al-kitaab only a guidance for Al-Muttaqeen? These are important question we should ask ourselves.
And with Him are the keys of the unseen, none know them except He. And He knows what is in the land and in the sea; and not a leaf falls except He knows of it; nor a seed in the darkness of the earth; nor anything moist or anything dry; all in a clear record.
As we can see from the verse above, Al-Kitaab contains everything. Everything is in this book/record.
This is my current understanding of these two quranic words (Al-Kitaab and Al-Quran).
Peace,
I agree completely with your understanding. I just want to clarify that al-quran is referred to as "A book" (indefinite=kitab), not "The book" (definite=alkitab).
The perspective that you presents imply that the term "ahl alkitab" refers to "those qualified for understanding the book (the universe)". We refer to them nowadays as specialists, scientists, engineers, doctors, shamans, imams, psychologists, priests, magicians... people that have acquired a share of the knowledge about the mechanics of this universe, thus acquiring the power to harness its laws/forces and to make them submit to the human will.
This category of people, which constitutes a small minority during all of human history, have always possessed great powers over the majority of the unlearned. Thus, this group have more responsibilities towards their communities, and can serve them out of goodwill or abuse their ignorance for self-interests. The verses is alquran referring to this group give details about such their obligations, their attitudes,...
Also, we have to consider that this group of people is able TO PREDICT THE FUTURE to a certain extent, in the sense that an engineer knows that when designing, machining and assembling a set of different parts in a specific arrangement, and supplied with some fuel, it can develop some power equivalent to so many horses. The engineer can predict all this by means of calculations, considering the laws of this universe.
Peace
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Salaam Mushu,
I didn't really understand the relationship between al kitab and al quran.
Major difference in AlKitaab and AlQuraan is already said in the answer to first and third question
1- Is AlKitaab different from AlQuraan?
Yes, it is.
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Zaalika AlKitaab - That AlKitaab1709
Haaza AlQuraan - This AlQuraan3- How is AlKitaab different from AlQuraan?
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22 That is the Book in which there is no doubt, a guidance for Al-Muttaqeen.2185
2185 A month of aspiration, in which the Quran was revealed; as a guide to the mankind and clarities from the guidance and the Criterion. Therefore, whoever of you witnesses the month, then let him fast therein. And whoever is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days. God wants to bring you ease and not to bring you hardship; and so that you may complete the count, and glorify God for what He has guided you, that you may be thankful.41/3 A Book, its signs are detailed , a quran flawless/arabic for a people who know.
So here, al kitab is being describes as a quran. What does that mean?
As brother Wakas said there is no 'AL'
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413 A Book whose revelations are detailed, an Arabic Quraan for a people who know.It is "Kitaab" not "Al+Kitaab" and "Quraan" not "AlQuraan".
"Kitaab" can be translated as "Writing"
"Quraan" can be translated as "Reading"Please read all the questions and its answers in detail to understand it properly.
May Allah guide us all to His only path pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
Salam,
Salaam Mushu,
Major difference in AlKitaab and AlQuraan is already said in the answer to first and third question
Sure, but I don't understand the relationship between the two.
As brother Wakas said there is no 'AL'
413
413 A Book whose revelations are detailed, an Arabic Quraan for a people who know.It is "Kitaab" not "Al+Kitaab" and "Quraan" not "AlQuraan".
"Kitaab" can be translated as "Writing"
"Quraan" can be translated as "Reading"Please read all the questions and its answers in detail to understand it properly.
But neither of you answered my question. What does the verse mean? Which kitab is a quran? "A writing whose revelations are detailed, an arabic reading for people who know." What is this this verse referring to and what does it mean?
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Salaam,
Thank you for your explanation, I agree with the most part of it but the following
Al-Kitaab is the book that records everything in the Universe. It records everything people have done. As I mentioned above, it is the book of universe.
And AlKitaab was displayed, so you see the criminals fearful of what is in it. And they say Woe to us! What is this AlKitaab that it does not leave out anything small or large but has counted it. And they found what they had done present. And your Lord does not wrong anyone.
And the record was displayed, so you see the criminals fearful of what is in it. And they say Woe to us! What is with this record that it does not leave out anything small or large but has counted it. And they found what they had done present. And your Lord does not wrong anyone. Quran 1849
AlKitaab does not record what people do. There is a difference between "AlKitaab" and "Kitaabak". Please look the following aayaats.
1714
1714 Read your record! It is sufficient for you that you are aware of yourself today.Here "Kitaabak" is not "AlKitaab".
1771
1771 The Day We call every people by their beacon. Then, whoever are given their book by their right, they will read their book, and they will not be wronged in the least.Here "Kitaabahu" and "Kitaabahum" is not "AlKitaab".
In same way 1849 is NOT talking about THEIR BOOK, but it talks about AlKitaab.
1849
1849 And AlKitaab was displayed, so you see the criminals fearful of what is in it. And they say Woe to us! What is this AlKitaab that it does not leave out anything small or large but has counted it. And they found what they had done present. And your Lord does not wrong anyone.You can see that "AlKitaab" is used in both the places in 1849. You may be getting confuse with "And they found what they have done present" part. But it is very clear that it does not say "And they found what they have done present in it". And the waw separates them from the before said.
When they say "Woe to us! What is this AlKitaab that it does not leave out anything small or large but has counted it", I think people who don't believe that AlKitaab explains everything they say so.
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us all to His path pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
Salaam brother,
Sure, but I don't understand the relationship between the two.
The only relation between AlKitaab and AlQuraan is in answer to question no.6
1037
1037 This Quran could not have been produced without Allah; it is to authenticate what is between his hands, and details AlKitaab in which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds.
FaSaLa actually means "to separate"
But neither of you answered my question. What does the verse mean? Which kitab is a quran? "A writing whose revelations are detailed, an arabic reading for people who know." What is this this verse referring to and what does it mean?
I will try to translate it for you, inshaAllah.
413
A book its aayaats have been separated, an Arabic reading for a people who know.
The above is how I understand, it has nothing to do with AlKitaab. A book may be referring to AlQuraan which is in a book form with 114 suras.
May Allah guide us all to His path pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
Salaam Someone,
The perspective that you presents imply that the term "ahl alkitab" refers to "those qualified for understanding the book (the universe)". We refer to them nowadays as specialists, scientists, engineers, doctors, shamans, imams, psychologists, priests, magicians... people that have acquired a share of the knowledge about the mechanics of this universe, thus acquiring the power to harness its laws/forces and to make them submit to the human will.
I understand that the term "Ahl AlKitaab" is only in context to refer the people of Musa (AS) and Eisa (AS). But there are also another terms like
"Ootu AlKitaab" this refers to all those who were given AlKitaab
"Ootu AlKitaab min khablik(um)" refers to only those who were given AlKitaab before you
"Aurasna AlKitaab" refers to all those we were given the Book as inheritance
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us all to His only true path pr
Mohammed M. Khan -
But neither of you answered my question. What does the verse mean? Which kitab is a quran? "A writing whose revelations are detailed, an arabic reading for people who know." What is this this verse referring to and what does it mean?
Salaam Mushu
The Kitab and The Quran are two different things. Verse 41/3 is about both of them. The first part of the verse explains what the Kitaab is. And the second part of the verse explains what the Quran is.
If you want to know about the difference between Kitaab and Quran, you can use the cross-reference method. Many verses become more clear when they are understood in relation to other verses. Many verses in the Quran are interconnected.
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Peace,
I agree completely with your understanding. I just want to clarify that al-quran is referred to as "A book" (indefinite=kitab), not "The book" (definite=alkitab).
The perspective that you presents imply that the term "ahl alkitab" refers to "those qualified for understanding the book (the universe)". We refer to them nowadays as specialists, scientists, engineers, doctors, shamans, imams, psychologists, priests, magicians... people that have acquired a share of the knowledge about the mechanics of this universe, thus acquiring the power to harness its laws/forces and to make them submit to the human will.
This category of people, which constitutes a small minority during all of human history, have always possessed great powers over the majority of the unlearned. Thus, this group have more responsibilities towards their communities, and can serve them out of goodwill or abuse their ignorance for self-interests. The verses is alquran referring to this group give details about such their obligations, their attitudes,...
Also, we have to consider that this group of people is able TO PREDICT THE FUTURE to a certain extent, in the sense that an engineer knows that when designing, machining and assembling a set of different parts in a specific arrangement, and supplied with some fuel, it can develop some power equivalent to so many horses. The engineer can predict all this by means of calculations, considering the laws of this universe.
Peace
Salam Someone
I agree completely with your understanding brother.
I haven't studied the term Al-Muttaqeen. But yes, it seems like Al-Muttaqeen are the specialists, scientists etc., as you mentioned.
Does the Mumins have the same abilities as the Al-Muttaqeen? Perhaps they have. The mumins are also specialists in different fields. They believe in the physical laws of the universe. They also believe in the unseen laws of the universe. Because there is an unseen realm in the universe. I recommend this article below. Perhaps you have already read it. But "repetition is the mother of skill."
Submitters (Muslims) vs. Believers (Mumins)
http//free-minds.org/node/10
By the way, I consider myself a muslim. Not a quranist, not a shia, not a sunni. But only a muslim. Prophet Muhammed never called himself a quranist. He never called himself a Shia. And he never called himself a sunni. These are fake labels. They are man-made labels. They are unquranic labels.
It seems the mumins are those who improve the state of mankind. Those who change things on a global scale. Those who make the world a better place. Those who fight for freedom and Justice, those who stop wars, those who end poverty etc.
In this day and age, the polytheists are ruling the world. They are the ones who are starting wars, contributing to poverty, and are polluting the earth. But if the monotheists ruled the world, there would be peace, justice and prosperity. And there would be no poverty, no pollution, and no wars.
We will never know the absolute truth when it comes to the history of mankind. But the ancient civilizations, were more advanced than the our civilization. However, this fact is not mentioned in the history books. It is hidden from the majority of people. It is highly controversial. And unfortunately, true history, has been suppressed by truthconcealers. The polytheists, want us to believe that ancient man was primitive, and ape-like, and only used stone tools. And they claim that our civilization is the most advanced civilizations. But this is a lie. This is a myth. The ancient civilizations were more advanced than our civilization. And any truthseeker who has studied history, know the fact that ancient civilizations were highly advanced. They know the fact that ancient civilizations had advanced technology.
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Salam,
Salaam Mushu
The Kitab and The Quran are two different things. Verse 41/3 is about both of them. The first part of the verse explains what the Kitaab is. And the second part of the verse explains what the Quran is.
If you want to know about the difference between Kitaab and Quran, you can use the cross-reference method. Many verses become more clear when they are understood in relation to other verses. Many verses in the Quran are interconnected.
Thanks Peacemaker. However, I'm still not clear what the verse is saying, because the structure suggests the object is one thing, not two.
41/3 A Book, its signs are detailed , a quran flawless/arabic for a people who know.
"A kitab" is being described as a "quran". Which kitab is this? As pointed out by Wakas and mmkhan, this isn't The Kitab, so it must be a different kitab. Bro mmkhan suggested it might be referring to the quran in book form.
Does anyone know of a write-up or book regarding this topic?
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Does anyone know of a write-up or book regarding this topic?
Salaam Brother.
In this book, the term Kitaab is explained in detail.
The Quran's self image
http//www.youquran.com/Quran-Self-Image-Madigan.pdf
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1037 This Quran could not have been produced without Allah; it is to authenticate what is between his hands, and details AlKitaab in which there is no doubt, from the Lord of the worlds.
"Mind it that, this Qur'aan is not such a book that someone, other than Allah, the Exalted, might have compiled/authored it. The fact of the matter is that this Qur'aan is rather the affirmation/authentication of the One Book sent before it.
http//www.haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Arabic%20Text/010.%20Yunus%20alahissalam/Temp%2001%2010.37b.gifMoreover, the organization/differentiation/delineation/arrangement of the Book has been by the command of the Sustainer Lord of the Universes-all that exists. The state of the contents of the Book is that within it there is absolutely no suspicious/conjectural/whimsical/conflicting/un-certain/illusory/perplexing/disconcerting matter, causing distraught emotional uncertain states/psychological disturbance.
Word by Word Analysis of 1037
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In this day and age, the polytheists are ruling the world. They are the ones who are starting wars, contributing to poverty, and are polluting the earth. But if the monotheists ruled the world, there would be peace, justice and prosperity. And there would be no poverty, no pollution, and no wars.
Peacemaker,
According to you, who is a polytheist and who is a monotheist? are you referring to some country or religion? Which monotheist country is peacefull?
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Salam,
Thanks Peacemaker. However, I'm still not clear what the verse is saying, because the structure suggests the object is one thing, not two.
41/3 A Book, its signs are detailed , a quran flawless/arabic for a people who know.
"A kitab" is being described as a "quran". Which kitab is this? As pointed out by Wakas and mmkhan, this isn't The Kitab, so it must be a different kitab. Bro mmkhan suggested it might be referring to the quran in book form.
Why couldn't 'a kitab' be referring to al quran? I also think this provides further credence to the theory that The Quran was written down as it was being "revealed", thus already in book form. Contextually, It must be referring to The quran, e.g. 416
Some brief notes regarding al kitab
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=16510.msg164751#msg164751
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Salam, Jack,
From quoted thread
It's interesting to note
-That Al kitab is never plural, not once.
-There's no 'hadha al kitab' 'this al kitab '.
-There IS 'hadha kitab' i.e. this book. -There is 'hadha al hadeeth' i.e. this hadeeth. But no 'hadha hadeeth'.
-1037, Al quran details Al kitab. Al quran details itself?!Al kitab involves the workings of the universes and depending on context human nature/ our 'record'.
For read pl see 1049
Blue is also incorrect, since the word Book is definite with possessive phrase in 4529.
The confusion will be over if we read about the definite article "al" and its usage.
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For read pl see 1049
Blue is also incorrect, since the word Book is definite with possessive phrase in 4529.
The confusion will be over if we read about the definite article "al" and its usage.
Can you please clarify why you quoted 1049? I did not find anything related in it.
And in blue part above, he said
"-There IS 'hadha kitab' i.e. this book. -There is 'hadha al hadeeth' i.e. this hadeeth. But no 'hadha hadeeth'."
You will find "Kitaab" with the word "Haadha or haaza" but you will not find "AlKitaab" with "Haadha" and similarly with hadeeth, you may find "AlHadeeth" with the word "Haadha" but there is no "Hadeeth" with "Haadha". So, what is in 4529, he said the same thing.
BTW, "Haadha AlKitaab" is used only once in AlQuraan, but that is about hereafter 1849
Mohammed M. Khan
