Some Confusion Qustions

ccamurad

Salam

How did Adam and Eve come on the earth?
How did Iblish spread generation on the earth?

Wakas

www.StudyQuran.org
---> Topics Index
---> Adam

Adam 231-32, 333, 527, 719-25, 1761, 1770, 1850, 1958, 20115-123, 4031, 4113, 4115

angels to prostrate before 234, 711
tree of knowledge 235, 719, 20120-121
banishment from Garden (no blame to Eve) 236, 724

---> Iblis

Iblis (Satan) 234, 3155, 3175, 438, 460, 476, 4116, 4119-120, 4140, 4145, 590, 591, 638, 643, 668, 711-12, 720, 721, 727, 7175, 7200, 7201, 811, 848, 125, 1242, 12100, 1422, 1531-40, 1663, 1698, 1727, 1753, 1761, 1764, 1850, 1863, 1944, 1945, 20116, 20120, 2252, 2253, 2421, 2529, 2695, 2724, 2815, 2938, 3121, 3420-21, 356, 3660, 3765, 3841, 3874-85, 4136, 4362, 4725, 5810, 5819, 5916
one of the Jinn 1850
tries to cast aspersions into prophecy 2252

Pretty good starting point.

Also see chapter 10 here
http//www.scribd.com/doc/37354743/Understanding-Quran-Themes-and-Style-by-Abdel-Haleem

Layth

Salam,

Adam and his mate evolved from the earth...

As for Iblees, I did not get the question.

ccamurad

Did Adam and his mate live in paradise?

Jafar

How did Adam and Eve come on the earth?
How did Iblish spread generation on the earth?

They came through a space ship from planet Nibiru...

Jokingly aside.. I agree with Layth.. up to word by word..
Adam and Eve / the first homo sapiens EVOLVED from earth.
As the name itself implied Adam from Adamah which in ancient semitic language means "Soil" and Eve (Arabic hawah, Hebrew Havah) means 'breath'.

See on 230
"Behold, thy Lord said to the angels I will create a representative (arabCaliph) on The Land/Earth (arab Al-Ard)."

Adam and Eve were told to be living in 'a beautiful garden' (ArabJannah)
Where is it exactly? Nobody knows...
Although.. based on the research of tracing the Homo Sapiens DNA, the first 'mitochondrial Eve' (the mother of all homo sapiens) seems to be located in an area which is now known as "Ethiopia" around 200,000 years ago.
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

What do you mean by "Iblis spread generation on earth"?

Salam / Peace

kgwithnob

...Adam and Eve / the first homo sapiens EVOLVED from earth...
...See on 230
"Behold, thy Lord said to the angels I will create a representative (arabCaliph) on The Land/Earth (arab Al-Ard)."...

The highlights above are from me.

1st. There is no mention of the name ?Eve? in The Qur?aan.
2nd. There is no mention of Adam in The Qur?aan, being the first human.

The verse 230 tells us that GOD, swt, was going to place/appoint, NOT to CREATE, a successor, NOT a REPRESENTATIVE, within the Earth.

And when thy Lord said unto the angels Lo! I am about to place a SUCCESSOR in the earth, they said Wilt thou place therein one who will do corruption therein and will shed blood, while we, we hymn Thy praise and sanctify Thee? He said Surely I know that which ye know not.

Peace,
Khalil

Jafar

The highlights above are from me.

1st. There is no mention of the name ?Eve? in The Qur?aan.
2nd. There is no mention of Adam in The Qur?aan, being the first human.

The verse 230 tells us that GOD, swt, was going to place/appoint, NOT to CREATE, a successor, NOT a REPRESENTATIVE, within the Earth.

Good catch Khalil...

Three things...

First..
The word "Caliph".. can also mean "Successor" / "Substitute" / "Replacement".
And if that's the case who did "Adam" (Or whomever his real name is) replace?

I do make a basic assumption that the terminology of "Adam" is a synonym of "The first homo sapiens".

Second..
The characteristics of this 'Adam the Caliph' being as described in the Quran are

Being ashamed of his own 'genital part'.
At the very least their penis and vagina, a consistent findings among homo sapiens worldwide, ALL of them cover at least their penis or vagina with something. Which is an oddity and the same attitude cannot be found on other species.
Ability to name things (make a symbolic sound reference to a concept or things)

As thus any 'hominid' who shows those two characteristics can be referenced as the so-called "Benei Adam" or 'progeny of Adam the Caliph'.
Interesting fact.. the Neanderthals although now is still being considered as not within Homo Sapiens family of species does shows the two characteristic above.
Perhaps this is 'very subjective' due to homo sapiens resistency to accept the fact that their 'ancestors' does looks relatively more 'ape-like' than they are as Neanderthal does look more of 'ape-like'.

Third..
The exact terminology for "Mitochondrial Eve" is "MRA" or Most Recent Ancestor (of modern humans).
This state the fact that ALL of today's modern humans does inherit a strain of unchanging DNA called "mitochondrial DNA" from this hypothetical female called "MT Eve" as thus she's the 'mother of all people in the world today'.
It doesn't state that this "MT Eve" does not have any parents or ancestor, most probably she does.

It is hypothetically possible for "MT Eve" children to do cross-mating with other hominids, in fact a study has proved that they did do a 'mixed marriage' with the Neanderthals some thousand years ago.

Salam / Peace

kgwithnob

...First..
The word "Caliph".. can also mean "Successor" / "Substitute" / "Replacement".
And if that's the case who did "Adam" (Or whomever his real name is) replace?

I do make a basic assumption that the terminology of "Adam" is a synonym of "The first homo sapiens"...

The above highlighting is from me.

Dear Jafar,

According to The Qur?aan, Adam is the name of a particular person. It is not the name of a species. See verse 333 for clarification.

Verily, Allah picked Adam and Noah and the Family of Abraham and the Family of 'Imran from among and over all the people.

Peace,
Khalil

Jafar

According to The Qur?aan, Adam is the name of a particular person. It is not the name of a species. See verse 333 for clarification.

Verily, Allah picked Adam and Noah and the Family of Abraham and the Family of 'Imran from among and over all the people.

Yes he did.. as shown by the verse.. Adam The Caliph.. the first homo sapiens.. the mark of a 'new species'.. picked among others hominid...

Mind you that 1400 years ago.. the conception of 'species' doesn't exist yet....
The terminology of "Beney Adam" which appears many times in the Quran, and also Bible ("Son Of Man"/Ben Adam) are a synonym of "Homo Sapiens" today.

Thank you for highlighting the verse into attention.. as now it became clearer...
An individual hominid named Adam was 'picked' from other hominid as the mark of a new species.. that also explain the verse where supposedly the Angel initially objected on "why you pick from those who shed blood"....

Perhaps the Angel has seen how early hominid (Adam's biological ancestor) behaves.. and they have seen the 'hominid brutal tribal war' where hominids are capable of 'shedding each others blood' (perhaps by cracking their opponent skull with stone or rock) for meticulous reasons. This inline with archeological findings of early hominids fossils.. where they did found the mark of 'mass murder' on a site, where skulls are cracked and so on...

But again it's still consistent behavior of homo sapiens today.. which rarely be found on other species...
I guess we haven't much evolved from such brutal behavior haven't we?

As Adam were 'picked' from 'a group', so does Noah, Abraham and Amran... and now it's becoming clearer and what does 'being picked from and over all other people' really mean. It mean that such individual DNA/genes shall became the 'new template' of DNA to be inherited by their subsequent generations.. a.k.a species evolution through the survival of the fittest or it's actually more of 'survival of the nicest' for homo sapiens / benei adam case..

Conclusion Be nice, otherwise you shall fall out of the evolution path.. (extinct / exterminated)

Salam / Peace