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KNOWLEDGE OF HUMAN IS RELATIVE ACCORDINT TO EINSTIEN

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    drsam
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    what the theory of relativity did is proving that in this world everything is relative and so the knowledge of humans is also relative

    so human cant think out side of some limits he has his limits what he sees according to it he thinks something new but that also u can relate to something present in this world

    than why knowledge about GOD has been in man's brain that he thinks so much about god but cant make out who is he where is he human have didnt seen him than how can his existance has man approved because relative knowledge must have started at some point

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      Paradox_Uncreated
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      I don`t believe everything is relative. God is absolute, and controls everything.

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        Salam,

        Before we actually misinterpret Einstein's relativity I find it necessary to point out that the theory or relativity is based on the natural world. Not the supernatural world. All the theories and physical principles breakdown when we go near a singularity, that alone shows you that all the theories and known facts are limited within fixed domain known as the observable universe.

        PEACE

        ----------- Student of Allah

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          I find it strange that Einstein believes in Spinozas God, and yet doesnt have a concept of absoluteness. From what I can see, this god is pantheistic, so "everything" should be absolute then. But no, he must have a relative god then. Lol *shake head*. Its not always these scientists make sense.

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            you both are not getting my point my question is to mostly aethiest as all human knowledge is relative and the supernatural knowledge is of out of this universe so how did human knew all that things ?

            i was prooving point that there is something like god sending messeges other wise we would not have known if there is any god or not

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              Salam Drsam,

              Thanks for clarifying the questions. The question is too much twisted, lol. Relativity kind of confuses me at times.

              Anyways, I think of the creations of Allah to be far superior than our comprehension. But that is a whole different discussion

              Peace

              -------------- Student of Allah

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                Human concsciousness is absolute. In other words, what is hell cannot be heaven to someone else. That would be relative.

                Modern pantheists and quantum consciousness http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdF10MsS6Os
                Relativity seems to be a weakness, in that theory though. And I find the idea that "we" are atoms odd. That would indicate eternal atoms. I do not believe in eternal matter. (Rather that consciousness is immaterial).
                Interesting to see where science is at these days though. Maybe they separate immaterial consciousness from matter, and rather see matter as a creation someday, and have found scientific proof or philosophy on God and immanence.

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                  Human concsciousness is absolute. In other words, what is hell cannot be heaven to someone else. That would be relative.

                  Modern pantheists and quantum consciousness http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdF10MsS6Os
                  Relativity seems to be a weakness, in that theory though. And I find the idea that "we" are atoms odd. That would indicate eternal atoms. I do not believe in eternal matter. (Rather that consciousness is immaterial).
                  Interesting to see where science is at these days though. Maybe they separate immaterial consciousness from matter, and rather see matter as a creation someday, and have found scientific proof or philosophy on God and immanence.

                  Salam,

                  I kind if beg to differ Sir. The reason is, you are limiting heaven and hell as 2 places , so relatively Hell is the worst option to be in. However, there are absolute limits. But in the presence of multiple limits, relativity kicks in.

                  I believe that my consciousness is materialistic too. But far beyond any concept that I can grasp at this moment.

                  By the way, atoms are not eternal. Atoms formed later after the big bang and can be destroyed and changed into sub atomic particles or radiations. But as long as the universe exists, they will exist in one form or the other.

                  ------------- Student of Allah

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                    Your first sentence there made no sense to me

                    A lot of people have been taught that consciousness is material, and believe that. That is not what religion teaches.
                    And frankly, to believe that life spontaniously arises from matter, is quite a belief on it`s own.

                    So I guess you do not believe in eternal life/soul, since you believe in material consciousness, and not eternal atoms. Or did you make an error, like so many do?

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                      Salam,

                      I believe that my soul is kind of an operating system for these atoms to follow These atoms are the hardware of my consciousness and the software is the unique gift of Allah called soul.

                      Dont know if that explains my perception or not

                      PEACE

                      ------------- Student of Allah

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                        http//www.google.no/search?client=opera&rls=nb&q=youy&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest#sclient=psy&hl=en&client=opera&hs=Yt0&rls=nb&channel=suggest&source=hp&q=god+breathed+sitewww.islamawakened.com%2Fquran%2F&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=feb188d3d6616d9d&biw=1213&bih=823

                        These verses are about "Gods spirit" or ruh. It is called spirit because it is immaterial.
                        This is what you call "soul".
                        From the verses, we can see that it gave man mind, and senses.

                        And ultimately, The writing of God, is from a consciousness. The consciousness is like us, judges and prefers or hates. Like us.

                        The Quran and many other religious texts, imply that consciousness is God. Pure consciousness, before space and time. Mind and senses.

                        And to me, it makes perfect sense that subject, came before object. This is advanced learning, but pray to God for guidance, and who knows, maybe he will inspire you this, by his ways. When you are ready. And the search will be over, and the absolute realized.

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