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Why is Koran so complicated?

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    peace4life
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    Salamz/Shalom/Namaste... I bow to thee,

    Quran (readings of scriptures/collections of channeling) is not complicated at all. You just need to realise the Diving withing yourself.

    Be blessed.

    Peace, Love and Light

    Suzy (A.K.A.Rida Almansour = Acceptance of The One Who Will Triumph)

    XOX

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      Prince
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      Prince,

      I agree with you. but Alen has a different interpretation of these verses. So how to have a consensus over interpretation?

      No need for consensus. Our interpretation has to be ever changing to get the real blessings from the quran. When we reach a consensus on a law giving verse in the quran and bar anyone else from a different interpretation then we are shackling the message of the quran. I believe thats what the scholars have done to this amazing scripture.

      PEACE

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        Rev_John
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        No need for consensus. Our interpretation has to be ever changing to get the real blessings from the quran. When we reach a consensus on a law giving verse in the quran and bar anyone else from a different interpretation then we are shackling the message of the quran. I believe thats what the scholars have done to this amazing scripture.

        PEACE

        Well said! bravo

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          afridi220
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          No need for consensus. Our interpretation has to be ever changing to get the real blessings from the quran. When we reach a consensus on a law giving verse in the quran and bar anyone else from a different interpretation then we are shackling the message of the quran. I believe thats what the scholars have done to this amazing scripture.

          PEACE

          yeah now i know why you are a prince D

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            TruthBehindIt
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            Salam and Peace!

            No!---Allah's Quran is not a complicated Book.

            It is The Easiest Book on the face of the earth,-----to understand.
            And It is The Most Difficult Book on the face of the earth,-----to follow.

            People of the last Ummah turn away from Allah's Quran,---because there is Truth in It.

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              foralgerian
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              Peace,

              Even let say for sake of simplicity the Quran was revealed just recently and in English, still people would find ways to understand it differently, this is normal occurrence in human communication, because in our language there are expressions that do not mean what they say.. and reason why as for the Quran people before use to try to justify some off their acts or behaviour through interpretation, but now in this day an age the people who are "truth seekers" are simply try to understand some of the issues.

              But again because we are human, we're inherently inpatient, and thus we want a clear understanding that will explain every single thing without delay...
              unfortunately, such a thing doesn't exist and we might even never witness it in our life time .

              Finally is always down to us to stick what is relevant for us, as example there is no interest in me knowing what is the Judgement of a thief, because I'm neither a Judge and nor a thief ( as far as I know).. and this is valid for may other issues.

              The main thing is we ought to compete all towards righteousness, and not who is winning the argument

              Regards

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                raginggaijin
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                I have come across with numbers of sects within Islam having different interpretation of Holy Quran. Why are people having different interpretations and meanings of Quran. and Why is Quran so difficult to translate and does not have a single meaning which is shared by all Muslims around the world. and why God did not make it as easy as possible so that every one could have a single and unified meaning. progressive muslims interpret one way, submitters interpret the other way, Sunni muslims say one thing, Shuia muslim say other things, to name a few.

                This ambiguity has caused lots of problems for a person trying to convert into this Religion.

                Insincere readers are diverted from the meaning of the Quran Surah 7146, 1745-47, 1857, 4144, 3923

                "When thou recitest the Koran, We place between thee, and those who do not believe in the world to come, a curtain obstructing, and We lay veils upon their hearts lest they understand it, and in their ears heaviness. And when thou mentionest thy Lord only in the Koran, they turn in their traces in aversion. We know very well how they listen when they listen to thee, and when they conspire, when the evildoers say, 'You are only following a man bewitched!'" Surah 1745-47

                "God has sent down the fairest discourse as a Book, consimilar in its oft-repeated, whereat shiver the skins of those who fear their Lord; then their skins and their hearts soften to the remembrance of God. That is God's guidance, whereby. He guides whomsoever He will; and whomsoever God leads astray, no guide has he." Surah 3923

                ?Belongs not sincere religion to Allah? And those who take protectors, apart from Him -- 'We only serve them that they may bring us nigh in nearness to Allah' -- surely Allah shall judge between them touching that whereon they are at variance. Surely Allah guides not him who is a liar, unthankful.? Surah 393

                Don't be concerned with what others are doing.
                Be concerned about what you are doing, and what you are following. You are only responsible for yourself.

                "And if you obey most of those in the earth, they will lead you astray from Allah's way; they follow naught but conjecture and they only lie." Surah 6116

                There are few believers. Surah 1140, 5136, 3824, 3420, 73, 612-3, 6116, 331-2

                The main thing is we ought to compete all towards righteousness, and not who is winning the argument

                This is Truth.

                "Every man has his direction to which he turns; so be you forward in good works. Wherever you may be, God will bring you all together; surely God is powerful over everything." Surah 2148

                "It is not piety, that you turn your faces to the East and to the West. True piety is this to believe in God, and the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the Prophets, to give of one's substance, however cherished, to kinsmen, and orphans, the needy, the traveller, beggars, and to ransom the slave, to perform the prayer, to pay the alms. And they who fulfil their covenant when they have engaged in a covenant, and endure with fortitude misfortune, hardship and peril, these are they who are true in their faith, these are the truly godfearing." Surah 2177

                Peace.

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                  Edip_Yuksel
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                  Good question. Here are a few answers that might confuse you even more

                  1. If God wished to have those with frozen brains to follow his book, then He could easily make it all like a story book, as He provides some examples in chapter 12.

                  2. If God wished every person born in a Muslim family and country just follow the book they inherited, then it could eliminate the words and expressions with multiple meanings.

                  The Quran is a book that distinguishes those who give lipservice from those who pursue truth at any cost. The Quran is a unique test book which make it impossible to cheat by copying from others.

                  The prophetic fullfillment of the number 19 has proved this point millions of times. On this very forum, you will see many who give lipservice to the Quran, yet demonstrate ignorance and arrogance against one of its greatest signs. The Quran is a great miracle that only those few who value truth and The Truth above everything can witness.

                  Peace,
                  Edip

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                    unknownuser
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                    Peace,

                    Good question. Here are a few answers that might confuse you even more

                    1. If God wished ...

                    2. If God wished ...

                    The prophetic fullfillment of the number 19 has proved this point millions of times.

                    What adds to confusion are prophetic rants by the clueless and numerologists who remove verses.

                    In addition, most all translations are horrible filled with conjecture, especially beware of comments.

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                      Edip_Yuksel
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                      Peace,
                      What adds to confusion are prophetic rants by the clueless and numerologists who remove verses.

                      Then without appealing to the authority of a NUMBER, the number of people, can you share with us your evidence that the 9128-129 do indeed belong to the Quran?

                      If you cannot produce a powerful evidence for your claim, then it is you who is clueless and it is you who is an innumerate bandwagoner who give the Quran only a lipservice.

                      Peace,
                      Edip

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                        unknownuser
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                        Then without appealing to the authority of a NUMBER, the number of people, can you share with us your evidence that the 9128-129 do indeed belong to the Quran?

                        If you cannot produce a powerful evidence for your claim, then it is you who is clueless and it is you who is an innumerate bandwagoner who give the Quran only a lipservice.

                        Peace,
                        Edip

                        That?s like asking evidence for ch 108 or ch 103 or any chapter or verse. My evidence is Qur?an.

                        Chapter 41 srat fuilat (explained in detail)...
                        Indeed, those who distort in Our Verses not hidden from Us.
                        Not comes to it the falsehood from before it and not from behind it.

                        Now your turn, no pathetic math which you are clueless in ? say what words "bother" you in 9128-129?

                        http//www.unesco-ci.org/photos/showphoto.php/photo/3355/title/highlights3a-letter-po/cat/837

                        4829 Muhammad messenger of Allah and those who with him firm against al-kufri and merciful among themselves?

                        1724 and lower to them wing humility of al-ramata

                        654 and when come to you those who believe in our verses so say, "Peace upon you, your Lord has prescribed upon Himself al-ramata that he who among you does evil in ignorance furthermore repents after it and reforms then indeed He oft-forgiving, ramun

                        655 and thus We explain the Verses so that becomes manifest way the criminals

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                          raginggaijin
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                          That?s like asking evidence for ch 108 or ch 103 or any chapter or verse. My evidence is Qur?an.

                          Chapter 41 srat fuilat (explained in detail)...
                          Indeed, those who distort in Our Verses not hidden from Us.
                          Not comes to it the falsehood from before it and not from behind it.

                          Now your turn, no pathetic math which you are clueless in ? say what words "bother" you in 9128-129?

                          http//www.unesco-ci.org/photos/showphoto.php/photo/3355/title/highlights3a-letter-po/cat/837

                          4829 Muhammad messenger of Allah and those who with him firm against al-kufri and merciful among themselves?

                          1724 and lower to them wing humility of al-ramata

                          654 and when come to you those who believe in our verses so say, "Peace upon you, your Lord has prescribed upon Himself al-ramata that he who among you does evil in ignorance furthermore repents after it and reforms then indeed He oft-forgiving, ramun

                          655 and thus We explain the Verses so that becomes manifest way the criminals

                          Quoted for Truth.

                          Peace.

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                            Wakas
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                            The core teachings are almost never disputed tell the truth, charitable, help the needy/orphans, fair in dealings, etc etc.

                            They are core for a reason.

                            All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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