Did Edip Yuksel's write the Freemind Quran translation?
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Highlight is from me.
Dear raging,
I'm not sure whether you've studied the "Ultimate Mathematics" by Ali Fazely or not. If not, please click on the link below. This is just FYI.
http//journal_of_submission.homestead.com/files/Ultimath.pdf
Peace,
Khalil"O Prophet, Allah suffices thee, and the believers who follow thee." Surah 864
"So if they turn their backs, say 'Allah is sufficient for me. There is no God but He. In Him I have put my trust. He is the Lord of the Mighty Throne.'" Surah 9129
You would know this had you not upheld the removal of two ayats.
"And obey not the unbelievers and the hypocrites; heed not their hurt, but put thy trust in Allah; Allah suffices as a guardian." Surah 3348
"It is He who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may uplift it above every religion. Allah suffices as a witness." Surah 4828
Keep your hadith. When I want answers, I read the Quran. Allah is sufficient for me.
Peace.
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Keep your hadith. When I want answers, I read the Quran. Allah is sufficient for me.
Strange...When the discussion was "Bakka" the Quran was not sufficient for you and you started relying on the people and their false hadith...I guess each person only sees what they want to see.
The Arabic Quran is not unified word for word letter for letter verse stop for verse stop, so the argument that edip has acted against the original Quran is false to begin with since none present would know which is the correct Quran (is it Hafs, or Warsh, or neither?).
Rational and informed debate are the way...not rash emotions.
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"O Prophet, Allah suffices thee, and the believers who follow thee." Surah 864
"So if they turn their backs, say 'Allah is sufficient for me. There is no God but He. In Him I have put my trust. He is the Lord of the Mighty Throne.'" Surah 9129
You would know this had you not upheld the removal of two ayats.
"And obey not the unbelievers and the hypocrites; heed not their hurt, but put thy trust in Allah; Allah suffices as a guardian." Surah 3348
"It is He who has sent His Messenger with the guidance and the religion of truth, that He may uplift it above every religion. Allah suffices as a witness." Surah 4828
Keep your hadith. When I want answers, I read the Quran. Allah is sufficient for me.
Peace.
Highlights above are from me.
1st You are such a hardheaded creature! As usual, you did ran away from the main issue and started blabbering nonsense again. I simply asked you to take a look at Ali Fazely?s invaluable research book regarding the mathematical structure of The Qur?aan. He is a prominent scientist and the living authority on the subject.
2nd Please stop judging and labeling others hastily. The Ultimate Judge is ALLAAH, SWT.
Peace,
Khalil -
Strange...When the discussion was "Bakka" the Quran was not sufficient for you and you started relying on the people and their false hadith...I guess each person only sees what they want to see.
Layth,
You make claims but bring no proof.
No where in the thread refuting your claims that Jerusalem is Masjid Al-Haram was anything but the descriptions given in the Quran used to confirm the Truth. The descriptions of the world around us are easy to find, and the Quran upholds Masjid Al-Haram is in Mecca, what was once called Bakka. Masjid Al-Haram is not the destroyed Temple - Masjid Al-Aqsa - in Jerusalem.You could not disprove what was shown there, so now you attempt to derail a thread and Invalidate, assisting the satans (Surah 6112) who seek to lead others astray.
I am clear of what you do.Bring proof or keep silent. It's wiser.
Highlights above are from me.
1st You are such a hardheaded creature! As usual, you did ran away from the main issue and started blabbering nonsense again. I simply asked you to take a look at Ali Fazely?s invaluable research book regarding the mathematical structure of The Qur?aan. He is a prominent scientist and the living authority on the subject.
2nd Please stop judging and labeling others hastily. The Ultimate Judge is ALLAAH, SWT.
Peace,
KhalilKhalil, let me be clear
If you follow teachings Allah did not reveal, you associate partners with Allah. Surah 73
Rashad Khalifa was not a Messenger of Allah.
Rashad Khalifa claimed he was the Messenger of the Covenant, using Malachi 31 as proof. However, the Messenger of the Covenant is named in Malachi 45.
"See, I will send you the prophet ELIJAH before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes."
Elijah, known as Elias (pbuh), is spoken of in the Quran and the Bible.
Surah 685, 37123-130, I Kings 1820-40
Rashad Khalifa is not Elias. Peace and blessings on all the Prophets of Allah.
?And certainly We have made clear for men in this Quran every kind of description, but most men consent naught save denying.? Surah 1789Followers of Rashad Khalifa ignore Surah 4142.
"Falsehood shall not come to it from before it nor from behind it; a revelation from the Wise, the Praised One." Surah 4142
Rashad denied hadith as guidance yet he turned to hadith to base his claim on corruption in the Quran. Our Creator clearly states no falsehood will come to the Quran, in the past or in the future, before it nor behind it.The Quran was sent to verify (musaddiqun) previous Books Surah 381, 4252, 548, 241, 289, 291, 2101, 303, 692
"And when (Wa-ith) God took (akhatha Allahu) Compact of the Prophets (meethaqa alnnabiyyeena) 'That I have given you of Book and Wisdom; then there shall come to you a Messenger verifying (musaddiqun) what is with you -- you shall believe in him and you shall help him; do you agree?' He said. 'And do you take My load on you on that condition?' They said, 'We do agree.' God said, 'Bear witness so, and I shall be with you among the witnesses.'" Surah 381
"Wa-ith akhatha Allahu meethaqa alnnabiyyeena lama ataytukum min kitabin wahikmatin thumma jaakum rasoolun musaddiqun lima maAAakum latu/minunna bihi walatansurunnahu qala aaqrartum waakhathtum AAala thalikum isree qaloo aqrarna qala faishhadoo waana maAAakum mina alshshahideena" Surah 381
This Compact - promise, agreement - is with those who inherited the Book, for the Messengers of Allah verified the Book that was with them.
"And when God took compact (meethaqa) with those who had been given the Book 'You shall make it clear unto the people, and not conceal it.' But they rejected it behind their backs and sold it for a small price -- how evil was that their selling!" Surah 3187
Khalil, now you have a problem.
By upholding your beliefs, you have a contradiction The Prophets (pbut) - according to you - rejected the Book and sold it for a small price.To you is your religion, to me is mine.
Peace.
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Salamunalaykom,
Wakas- yea i have Mohammed Asad already, but like i said its for my mum n i didnt want her to get confused bout wat hadith r.
Raginggaijin- im glad someone here sees my point Alhumdulliah!
But Alhumdulliah...I sent my mum (who is non-muslim by the way) a copy of Freeminds Translation bout a week ago, and she has been reading it! So pray for her please.
peace
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People should learn arabic yes
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...I sent my mum (who is non-muslim by the way) a copy of Freeminds Translation bout a week ago, and she has been reading it! So pray for her please.
peace
If she wants and desires to know the actual truth and is concerned by knowing what is really going on, God will help her through out the Qur'an...If she just wants to skim through stuff...then no...not really.
Sigh, I have double posted sorry >
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Salamunalaykom, SeekingYou, of course Allah will guide her through the Quran...
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Salam, Ozi,
Good to see you inviting your mother towards Islam. Next it's your father's turn ;D
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InshaAllah, he is a little skeptical bout Islam cos theres alot of Muslims in my country giving us a bad name. brickwall So for now I try n act like a good Muslim n soon inshaAllah I wil giv him a copy of the Quran.
