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    kgwithnob
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    Salam,

    I am a bit confused about a website. Let me give you the context. A friend of mine(sunni) said the she is concerned about my FaceBook status updates ( they are Qur'an vs Hadith thing that I am posting regular and many friends are alhumdulillah shocked and started reading the Qur'an and verifying it). The friend said that she would like to discuss something with me in my STATUS zone (its pretty popular Qur'an-Hadith discussion zone now P ). She said she will discuss it on 23rd and asked me to read this website that she wants to discuss about. The webpage with its contents confused me, predicting the end of time, the arrival of Mehdi and Jesus etc. Is anyone familiar with the website ? Let me give the link

    http//www.discoveringislam.org/videos_of_lectures.htm

    PEACE

    --------------------- Student of Allah

    Highlight is from me.

    It?s all nonsense. No one knows the future events but GOD himself. Verses 650 & 7188 below among many others are the confirmation.

    Say (O Muhammad, to the disbelievers) I say not unto you (that) I possess the treasures of Allah, nor that I have knowledge of the Unseen; and I say not unto you Lo! I am an angel. I follow only that which is inspired in me. Say Are the blind man and the seer equal? Will ye not then take thought?

    Say For myself I have no power to benefit, nor power to hurt, save that which Allah willeth. Had I knowledge of the Unseen, I should have abundance of wealth, and adversity would not touch me. I am but a warner, and a bearer of good tidings unto folk who believe.

    Peace,
    Khalil

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      Student_of_Allah
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      Salam Khalil,

      Thanks for the reply.

      To make things clear, if you want to know about my certain beliefs, you can find them in Qur'an. So I already dont believe on those ideas of the Epic battle between Jesus and anti-christ , where Mehdi is supposed to be some sort of Side Kick. The reason I am asking for help is, does anyone out here already know what that Quranic calculation is ? I mean the things that the website is using. I am aware of Rashad Khalifa's calculation, Ahmed Nishitoba's calculations and many other stupid hadith based calculations. But I am a bit confused over this one. Does anyone who their methodology ? or who are these people ?

      PEACE

      -------------------- Student of Allah

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        Jafar
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        To make things clear, if you want to know about my certain beliefs, you can find them in Qur'an. So I already dont believe on those ideas of the Epic battle between Jesus and anti-christ , where Mehdi is supposed to be some sort of Side Kick. The reason I am asking for help is, does anyone out here already know what that Quranic calculation is ? I mean the things that the website is using. I am aware of Rashad Khalifa's calculation, Ahmed Nishitoba's calculations and many other stupid hadith based calculations. But I am a bit confused over this one. Does anyone who their methodology ? or who are these people ?

        Indeed the website is very confusing... LOL
        I'm skeptic once somebody talk about Dajjal, Mehdi and Jesus 2nd cumming oops coming..
        To me it's all a hoax....

        I think you could 'disaprove' this by going to the fact that Dajjal and Mehdi is nowhere found in the Quran.
        Then why the heck they can even came up with a so-called 'calculation' which relates to them????

        During my 'ignorant' years I used to be a 'strong' believer in all of this dajjal, mehdi, jesus prophecy (which is all based on hadith, sirah and others strange sources).

        Until I stumbled on a hadith which describes "The muslimin troops led by Mehdi and Jesus (which came from the sky) shall be besieged by Dajjal's troop within the wall of Damascus"..

        Hello... this is 21st century now.. the damascus citadel is now partially ruined.. and 'city wall' has lost it's functionality in modern warfare.. we fought battle with missiles and airplane now. A 'wall' will not be a hindrance for any invasion...

        Salam / Peace

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          TruthBehindIt
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          Salam and Peace on you!

          This is Mahdi, Isa, Dajjal, etc. is all fairay-tales, and nothing to do with Allah's Quran.

          Since you read your Creator and Sustainer's Holy and Exalted Quran,-----you never should be confused about any matter of Deen.

          Anything which is not in Allah's Quran, it is nothing but sorcery and falsehood.

          Read Al-Quran, The Only of Book of The Truth in the universe, repeatedly, and The Reality of every matter will be unfolded to you.

          -----"And no similitude (question, objection, confusion about Al-Quran) do they bring to you, but We bring to you the truth and the better explanation." (2533)

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            Student_of_Allah
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            Salam and Peace on you!

            This is Mahdi, Isa, Dajjal, etc. is all fairay-tales, and nothing to do with Allah's Quran.

            Since you read your Creator and Sustainer's Holy and Exalted Quran,-----you never should be confused about any matter of Deen.

            Anything which is not in Allah's Quran, it is nothing but sorcery and falsehood.

            Read Al-Quran, The Only of Book of The Truth in the universe, repeatedly, and The Reality of every matter will be unfolded to you.

            -----"And no similitude (question, objection, confusion about Al-Quran) do they bring to you, but We bring to you the truth and the better explanation." (2533)

            Salam,

            O MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            WHAT IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE.

            I NEVER SAID I AM CONFUSED ABOUT MY FAITH.

            (let me calm down................mmmmmmmmmmmmm..... peace)

            ok, I am only confused about the website, not my beliefs. Normally, I expect calculations from followers of Rashad or Nshitoba. But this time, a sunni friend showed me this. So I got more confused, and specially because the whole thing is contradictory. Rashad and Nishitoba both atleast claims to follow only Qur'an, why would they make a fuss about (Isa+mehdi)-dajjal=peace ?? From the dajjal concept , I knew it is some sort of hadither, but I never saw a hadither who can calculate rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl forgive me, I went too far on that one. P

            Anyways, this is what I believe about the battle between Isa and Dajjal

            "There have been talks about many epic battles that took place in the past or will take place in the future. But verily I say unto you, "Isa vs Dajjal" is the only pointless one among them all"

            PEACE

            ----------------------- Student of Allah

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              Jafar
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              "There have been talks about many epic battles that took place in the past or will take place in the future. But verily I say unto you, "Isa vs Dajjal" is the only pointless one among them all"

              It will be a big match for sure.....
              Hope it came true... and will be aired live!
              Prepare your popcorn folks...

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                TruthBehindIt
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                Salam and Peace!

                Salam,

                O MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                WHAT IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE.

                I NEVER SAID I AM CONFUSED ABOUT MY FAITH.

                (let me calm down................mmmmmmmmmmmmm..... peace)

                ok, I am only confused about the website, not my beliefs. Normally, I expect calculations from followers of Rashad or Nshitoba. But this time, a sunni friend showed me this. So I got more confused, and specially because the whole thing is contradictory. Rashad and Nishitoba both atleast claims to follow only Qur'an, why would they make a fuss about (Isa+mehdi)-dajjal=peace ?? From the dajjal concept , I knew it is some sort of hadither, but I never saw a hadither who can calculate rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl forgive me, I went too far on that one. P

                Anyways, this is what I believe about the battle between Isa and Dajjal

                "There have been talks about many epic battles that took place in the past or will take place in the future. But verily I say unto you, "Isa vs Dajjal" is the only pointless one among them all"

                PEACE

                ----------------------- Student of Allah

                That's nice to know that you are not confused about your Faith, Alhamdolillah!

                So, if you are not confused, then put a cross "X" on that website, i.e. reject and forget it.

                The story of "Isa, Mahdi and dajjaal"----is one of the biggest lies and falsehoods, and Sehar.

                A lot of Peace on you and yours!

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                  Student_of_Allah
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                  Salam and Peace!

                  That's nice to know that you are not confused about your Faith, Alhamdolillah!

                  So, if you are not confused, then put a cross "X" on that website, i.e. reject and forget it.

                  The story of "Isa, Mahdi and dajjaal"----is one of the biggest lies and falsehoods, and Sehar.

                  A lot of Peace on you and yours!

                  Salam ,

                  What do you mean when you say "A lot of Peace on you and yours!"
                  Dont think of me as an idiot I do get the first part of it , but the red letters, I do not comprehend . Explain please.

                  PEACE
                  --------------------- Student of Allah

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                    MesMorial
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                    It is common English usage meaning "everything you hold dear".

                    Peace.

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                      TruthBehindIt
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                      Salam ,

                      What do you mean when you say "A lot of Peace on you and yours!"
                      Dont think of me as an idiot P I do get the first part of it , but the red letters, I do not comprehend . Explain please.

                      PEACE
                      --------------------- Student of Allah

                      Salam and Peace!

                      I am sorry, I should rephrase
                      A lot of Peace on you!

                      And no Peace on yours!

                      Happy?-----Perhaps this is what you wanted!

                      I never can think of you as an idiot!

                      Peace again!

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