Analysis of obey ALLAH/Rasool & a powerful study technique

unknownuser

Peace all, peace

Introduction
There is a grave illusion behind modern day belief, the idea that ALLAH is independent of the truth. This creates two evil lies of the utmost severity. The first idea is that ALLAH, the ultimate reality, can be "true/false", that He "may or may not" exist! Then we look for a "proof of ALLAH's existence". The second idea is that "truth" is this inanimate dead thing that cannot speak for itself. When in reality, the truth is certainly the only thing truly capable of instant speech (the truth hurts, as they say). When someone disbelieves in "ALLAH", they are a "Non-Muslim". When someone disbelieves in the obvious truth - we all call them a fool! Do you see the absurdity?

Separating ALLAH from truth, we can create as many ALLAHs as we please and they can compete for the truth. We get this image of some outerspace entity beaming down this Quran to a man in the desert telling him to believe. As if there is some kind of war between "Gods" to see who can collect the most "believers" in their "truth".

Ergo, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Atheism, Islam. All of them have their own "THE god" behaving totally differently to each other. Then comes the concept of "faith" turning what should have been a concrete foundation of indisputable truth for our system of life into one built on shaky/uncertain ground of "faith". The only things that need "faith" are polytheistic idols that don't exist! With faith ALWAYS comes uncertainty for that is the measure of faith. Touch your hands, they are truth. Do you need faith that they are there?

Technique
In this topic I present my understanding of the oft-disputed phrase "Obey Alllah and obey the messenger"; using a technique of cross-referencing/substituting the attributes of ALLAH in the Quran into different verses. This technique is a powerful clarifier because for example if a verse states something about ar-Rahman then that verse is also talking about al-Ghafir, no doubt about it. The names of ALLAH are not attributes of Him, but they actually are Him - he always IS the most forgiving one, he always IS the beneficient one. This is not like the name of a person which can be anything you want it to be, ALLAH's names cannot be changed. This method of substitution works for anywhere "ALLAH" is directly referenced, not where it is implied. It lends a powerful versatility to the quranic message.

And there are those who put up a mosque by way of mischief and infidelity - to disunite the Believers - and in preparation for one who warred against Allah and His Messenger aforetime. They will indeed swear that their intention is nothing but good; But Allah doth declare that they are certainly liars.
Never stand thou forth therein. There is a mosque whose foundation was laid from the first day on piety; it is more worthy of the standing forth (for prayer) therein. In it are men who love to be purified; and Allah loveth those who make themselves pure.
Which then is best? - he that layeth his foundation on piety to Allah and His good pleasure? - or he that layeth his foundation on an undermined sand-cliff ready to crumble to pieces? and it doth crumble to pieces with him, into the fire of Hell. And Allah guideth not people that do wrong.

What is the first day? We know what the last day is, the last day is the beginning of eternity. Is the first day the day the universe was born, or is it the day Abraham followed the creator's command? But "islam", the way of ALLAH has been in existence from the beginning.

Now substitute very simply, the word "ALLAH" for al-Haqq. Then it becomes

And there are those who put up a mosque by way of mischief and infidelity - to disunite the Believers - and in preparation for one who warred against the absolute truth and that which brings (knowledge of it) aforetime. They will indeed swear that their intention is nothing but good; But the absolute truth doth declare that they are certainly liars.

Now we can see. Truth makes a declaration about who is a liar, and who can challenge the truth but liars? Also, we can see that it does not have to be "al-haqq", any name could be placed therein. But al-haqq reveals more here of al-quran than we saw at first. The name is like a key, the verse is like a lock, and the key fits the lock. Am I distorting the quran here? Please show me if I am. Indeed the substition is not in the verse itself but in the mind. I find justification for this technique from 17110 (His are the most beautiful names).

Examples
Whatever good, (O man!) happens to thee, is from the absolute truth/reality; but whatever evil happens to thee, is from thy (own) soul. and We have sent thee as a messenger to (instruct) mankind. And enough is the absolute truth/reality for a witness.
He who obeys the Messenger, obeys the absolute truth/reality But if any turn away, We have not sent thee to watch over their (evil deeds).

Say "If ye do love the absolute truth/reality, Follow me the absolute truth/reality will love you and forgive you your sins For the absolute truth/reality is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful."
Say "Obey the absolute truth/reality and Its Messenger" But if they turn back, the absolute truth/reality loveth not those who reject it.

He who forsakes his home in the cause of the the absolute truth/reality, finds in the earth Many a refuge, wide and spacious Should he die as a refugee from home for the absolute truth/reality and he who brings (knowledge of it), His reward becomes due and sure with the absolute truth/reality And the absolute truth/reality is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

And (it is) for the poor fugitives who have been driven out from their homes and their belongings, who seek bounty from the absolute truth/reality and help the absolute truth/reality and he who brings (knowledge of it). They are the loyal.

I save the best for last
The Messenger's duty is but to proclaim (the message). But the absolute truth/reality knoweth all that ye reveal and ye conceal.
Say "See ye if the (Revelation) is (really) from the absolute truth/reality, and yet do ye reject it? Who is more astray than one who is in a prolonged opposition to it?"

Is it not an obvious fact, that even if you conceal an action you still committed it? Is it not a obvious fact, that someone who goes against the sure truth is doomed to failure? Can you light yourself on fire then survive thinking "fire can't touch me"? Is it not obvious that we should always help above others the person who brings verified truth in any situation?

Al-quran is a statement declaring war between God/truth & its proponents and those who wish to conceal it. There is no "believer" and "disbeliever" in "Islam". Names, names names.

Peace!

Kaiokenred

This so reminds me of a manga, there's a character named " Truth " and he says he's also Universe, God, and a numerous other things.

unknownuser

Peace,

The signs are everywhere. A lot of the symbology in modern media points to God, if you are aware of it. I don't think this is on purpose but rather that it's human nature to point to the truth. When this cannot happen consciously then it happens subconsciously. Ergo the character in that manga.

Anyway, who can now say using this interpretation that ALLAH is telling us to follow ahadeeth? Have ahadeeth ever had the quality of "al-Haqq"?

Kaiokenred

Peace,

The signs are everywhere. A lot of the symbology in modern media points to God, if you are aware of it. I don't think this is on purpose but rather that it's human nature to point to the truth. When this cannot happen consciously then it happens subconsciously. Ergo the character in that manga.

Anyway, who can now say using this interpretation that ALLAH is telling us to follow ahadeeth? Have ahadeeth ever had the quality of "al-Haqq"?

Here's another verse who kinda agrees with your point.

"Thumma ruddoo ila Allahi mawlahumualhaqqi ala lahu alhukmu wahuwa asraAAu alhasibeen"

I don't see any good translation for it except Yusuf Ali. I don't know arabic, but I know that Al-Haqq means the truth, and I think translators did a mistake so I'll just translate that word and substitute it.

The translations in quran.com areSahih International
Then they His servants are returned to Allah , their true Lord. Unquestionably, His is the judgement, and He is the swiftest of accountants.
Muhsin Khan
Then they are returned to Allah, their Maula . Surely, His is the judgement and He is the Swiftest in taking account.
Pickthall
Then are they restored unto Allah, their Lord, the Just. Surely His is the judgment. And He is the most swift of reckoners.
Yusuf Ali
Then are men returned unto Allah, their protector, the (only) reality Is not His the command? and He is the swiftest in taking account.
Shakir
Then are they sent back to Allah, their Master, the True one; now surely His is the judgment and He is swiftest in taking account.
Dr. Ghali
Thereafter they are turned back to Allah their Supreme Patronizer, The True. Verily His is the judgment; and He is The Swiftest of Reckoners

Here's my translation " Then they are returned to The God, their protector, The Truth(reality). Is not His the command? And He is the swiftest in taking account.

Kaiokenred

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Sahih International
"That is because Allah is the Truth and because He gives life to the dead and because He is over all things competent."

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salam,

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And when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmad." But when he came to them with clear evidences, they said, "This is obvious magic."

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And when Jesus brought clear proofs, he said, "I have come to you with wisdom and to make clear to you some of that over which you differ, so fear Allah and obey me.

Regarding this article
http//www.free-minds.org/messengers-and-prophets
Is David a messenger?