What really is jinn?
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I think you are giving Iblis too high of a status here. "Iblis follows his desire". This is Iblis, this is a very noticable jinn, which the meditation was supposed to demonstrate. God is the "master of the universe". There are other jinn ofcourse, that may be as trippy as the ones heard of with solomon.
It seems that a fundmental monotheistic viewpoint also reduces spirits, and particulary Iblis, so one can also try meditation on "We are the only one, and create everything". I am very grateful to come to know such direct monotheism, and it is very interesting to see what the effect of such a fundamental monotheistic viewpoint is. And to learn what monotheism really is about, and tries to establish.
Maybe this is mostly for the mystics, but changing ones viewpoint of the world, to this, is definately recommened to try. Meditation on it over a few days should suffice, to know if one would like to continue or not. It is also a way of being conscious of God, and I use it instead of (ritual) prayer. (The angels are still in heaven, and pray for those on the earth AKA hoping for their wellbeing).
Peace!
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Peace
Jinn implies something that is hidden from view. See 727. I get the impression they are not bound to form in the same way we are.
The Q analogy is quite interesting. I'm sure jinn have power in whatever way they do, we do too, but all things are bound to the will of the creator.
1993 There is none in the heavens and the earth but comes unto the Most Beneficent (Allah) as a slave.
Humility is the way for all beings.
It seems that a fundmental monotheistic viewpoint also reduces spirits, and particulary Iblis, so one can also try meditation on "We are the only one, and create everything". I am very grateful to come to know such direct monotheism, and it is very interesting to see what the effect of such a fundamental monotheistic viewpoint is. And to learn what monotheism really is about, and tries to establish.
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Yes. I don`t know if you got anything out of the meditation, but to me it clearly demonstrated them, as impulses being present, when not meditating. These are the "whispers" of jinn. It seems that a fundamentally correct monotheistic viewpoint takes them completely away though. Something sufism did not do for me. So I am very happy to progress to a point where I know this, and know alot about the benefits of being conscious of God, in various ways, and how that "protects" against spirits.
Peace.
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Conscious of Allah, Meditation, Higher State of Mind, SubConscious level, Training lower brain regions/reptilian brain.
Inception film may be a Fiction, but it does elaborate, the importance to safeguarding one's mind. Protecting our consciousness.
Still most my headache, are because of High-fructose Corn Syrup, Saturated Fat, Artificial stuff. That evidently physically weakens my ability to protect myself.
Saying Jinn cannot manipulate the Universe, its like saying "Human, Don't Bother Making Advance Technology, to make your life better".
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And then there was the story on how discussions on jinn usually turns to shit. But thats for another day.
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Peace,
Yes. I don`t know if you got anything out of the meditation, but to me it clearly demonstrated them, as impulses being present, when not meditating. These are the "whispers" of jinn. It seems that a fundamentally correct monotheistic viewpoint takes them completely away though. Something sufism did not do for me. So I am very happy to progress to a point where I know this, and know alot about the benefits of being conscious of God, in various ways, and how that "protects" against spirits.
Peace.
Entirely agreed.
I meditate but in a slightly different fashion (emptiness/self inquiry). When focusing strongly on pure unity/alone-ness, I experience the same thing you are talking about. I feel "barriered" from the impulses, which are like whispers. Not exactly "barriered" but more like if you're on the pavement and a car is on the road, as long as you stay on the pavement the car is never ever going to hit you, its physically impossible.
This is done by knowing that I am the space in which these impulses arise. It's funny because I remember getting up a little while ago from a dream I can't remember. I was deep in thought about jinn/whispers during the dream and when I woke up I was still thinking about it. Namely, that the whispers of the jinn telling you to do things is no different to another human telling you.
Looking at it like this, I realise a lot of the "involuntary" jinn-driven things we do are actually ridiculous. It's like someone shouting at you really really loud telling you to jump off a cliff. In real life you would ignore them or tell them to shut up and get the hell out of your reality but when the jinn whisper, we are quick to follow them. Satan has no power over us except the power we give to him.
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The title should be ,
"Higher Consciousness Security through Meditation".
making Jinn the fall guy for many things, man-made problem is everywhere the eye can see.
the very aspect, Jinn a fire-based creature, is not yet humanly proven and documented publicly. There are so many things we have yet to discover.
"Higher Consciousnesses Security through Meditation", is not a Pseudoscience. There's a lot a of thing that undermines the Security of Consciousness, man-made, jinn-made and/or even nature.
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Salam,
I wanted to share my views about the following ayaat
He said, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and created him from clay.
My points
1.From a technical point of view, it is not God saying that Jinns are created from Fire, but it is a jinn saying that he was created from fire.
2.As far as I know, fire is just plain energy and clay is matter. And matter is made of energy too. Are we then the successors of the Jinns ?PEACE
------------------- Student of Allah
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We are not the successors of jinn.
They exist alongside us, and the meditation was meant to give some idea of their whispers.
I tried it again, and yes, indeed, it does reduces a certain whispering to pretty much nothing, for me.
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All this about monotheism, and being conscious of "God" (the allknowing), seems to be about the same.
One can expand the meditation a bit, and focus on more aspects of the same, for instance
"We are the only one, the eternal allknowing creator, independent of everything"
That might get a bit too long of a statement for many, maybe.
One might argue that The Quran, is a book full of these kinds of statements, that in the end should be kind of fused into the concept "God". So being godconscious really is being concious of the entire Quran.
I do have read the entire Quran, to a point, where I no longer find much new in it though, so for me it`s pretty much about finetuning the last details.
And that can be done by meditation, and becoming more aware of these truths. Which hopefully the soul remembers, and it becomes a part of you.
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humans, monkeys, jinn made up from material of the Universe.
the Television, ie the TV whisper evil to US all the time.
Scizophrenia is mand-made, or Gene, or Jinn. Blaming Jinn alone for it is in-complete.
All knower of The Universe. A Metaphor, what "Google" tries to do.
"Master of the Universe" is not the same as "Master of Existence".
Jinn cannot get into heaven, it doesn't have that power. Jinn is dependent on the Universe.
And one day Human may learn, documented, scientifically proven how to block "Whisper".
Say, "If the sea were ink for the words of my Lord, the sea would be exhausted before the words of my Lord were exhausted, even if We brought the like of it as a supplement."Say, "Observe what is in the heavens and earth." But of no avail will be signs or warners to a people who do not believe.
if you true about the meditation, record it Video, post it on youtube. it'll bring help to many people.
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I`ll post the best of my meditation, someday.
I am still iterating a bit, and meditating on "We are independent, and create everything" atm.
When I feel that nothing new happens, which is rarer and rarer, I`ll make a summary of my meditations.
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We are not the successors of jinn.
They exist alongside us, and the meditation was meant to give some idea of their whispers.
I tried it again, and yes, indeed, it does reduces a certain whispering to pretty much nothing, for me.
Salam,
I never meant successor in the sense that the predecessor went extinct. Let me quote what I said in that specific sentence
2.As far as I know, fire is just plain energy and clay is matter. And matter is made of energy too. Are we then the successors of the Jinns ?
What I was trying to say is similar to saying, trees comes first, then comes wood then comes furniture. And Satan knows that he comes from trees and we come from wood. Satan's problem was that he thought of himself as more elementary and assumed more purity.
PEACE
------------------- Student of Allah
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http//www.islamawakened.com/quran/15/27/
And the jinn did We create aforetime of essential fire.
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http//www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070814150630.htm
"Could extraterrestrial life be made of corkscrew-shaped particles of interstellar dust? Intriguing new evidence of life-like structures that form from inorganic substances in space have been revealed in the New Journal of Physics. The findings hint at the possibility that life beyond earth may not necessarily use carbon-based molecules as its building blocks. They also point to a possible new explanation for the origin of life on earth."
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A JINN IS A CREATION OF ALLAH swt AND WAS CREATED ONLY TO OBEY ALLAH AND JUST LIKE US HUMANS THE JINNS LIVE, EAT, DIE, LAUGH AND DO EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND THEM IS THAT THEY HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THEIR PHYSICAL FORM AND CAN SEE THE ANGLES AND STUFF WHICH WE CANT SEE. BUT THE JINNS ARE NOT AS STRONG AS US HUMANS SINCE ALLAH swt HAS SAID IN THE HOLY AL FURQAN THAT WE HUMANS ARE MORE PREFERED AND LOVED MORE THAN THE JINNS
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A JINN IS A CREATION OF ALLAH swt AND WAS CREATED ONLY TO OBEY ALLAH AND JUST LIKE US HUMANS THE JINNS LIVE, EAT, DIE, LAUGH AND DO EVERYTHING THAT WE DO AND THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN US AND THEM IS THAT THEY HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THEIR PHYSICAL FORM AND CAN SEE THE ANGLES AND STUFF WHICH WE CANT SEE. BUT THE JINNS ARE NOT AS STRONG AS US HUMANS SINCE ALLAH swt HAS SAID IN THE HOLY AL FURQAN THAT WE HUMANS ARE MORE PREFERED AND LOVED MORE THAN THE JINNS
Allah preferred Human and loved more than Jinns is not a measurement how strong a Jinn is. Since no Standard is sets. Examples of Standard may be how strong its destructive capabilities, technological advancement, Psychological influencing capabilities.
Set a standard of how strong, for example travel speed from point A to point B. Measure the Travel Speed of Jinn and Human, then compare it. by the standard stated Who is fastest, is the Winner.
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Dear All
Dr Shabbir of www.ourbeacon.com interprets Jinn as
Jinn = Something hidden, rarely seen. So, after using Tasreef, Al-Jinn = The
nomads. Jannah from the same root means a garden hidden in foliage. When the
Jinns or nomads move to dwell in towns and become civilized, they are referred
to as Ins.
Ins = Urbanites = Humans including the nomads.More at http//ourbeacon.com/wp-content/uploads/admin2/2010/11/QXP200808iv.pdf
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Jinn defined by G A Parwez
Jinn ? (Jeem-noon-noon).
Janna means hidden. According to Raghib, it means, not only hidden from the eyes but also from senses ? In verse 6/77 the Qur?an says ?When the night spread darkness over him, he saw a star. Jananun, means grave, as it hides the dead body. Iblees is also a Jinn as this force remains hidden from the eyes (18/30)
Janeen, is an infant in mother?s womb ? Junnantun ? is the shield or any weapon with which a person protects himself (58/16). ? Jinnatun ? means madness (23/25). The Arabs thought that majnoon was a person who was afflicted by a Jinn. According to Raghib ?al-Jinno? is being used in two ways. Firstly all the hidden forces (spiritual, positive) and in this context it also includes ?angels?, and those hidden forces which are evil are called ?Shiateen? (Taj, Raghib). The Qur?an also mentions about the Arabs doing worship of Jinn and there it means ?angels? (37/15 (Taj, Raghib).
The earth was in the beginning, in the form of a molten fire and it took billions of years to cool down to a tolerable temperature when it was suitable for the habitation of mankind. Before this there existed some creation, of which man was the successor (Khalifa). That specie was created out of fire (15/27). That specie is extinct now ? and is referred to as ?al-jaann?.
The Qur?an has referred to and addresses ?Jinn and Ins? in many verses together. Ins, (as explained under the heading ?Ins) means tribes settled at a place, and Jinn means those Bedouins, nomadic tribes or gypsies who kept on wandering from place to place and remained in deserts of forests away from cities. In Arabia such people were great in number. Since the message of the Qur?an was for both the types, it has pointedly addressed both of them. For instance
In verse 6/131 ?Oh Ye, assembly of Jinn and Ins don?t you know that a Rasool came to you from amongst you?. (In the Qur?an no reference is there to show that at any time a Jinn was also a Rasool). It is further clarified in verse 735 that the Rusul (plural) were from Bani-Adam and sent towards them. In Surahs Jinn and Ahq?af, a reference occurs where it is mentioned that a group of Jinns came to the Rasool to listen to the Qur?an (72/1, 46/29). This also shows that the group who came to Rasool-Allah (PBUH) were actually human beings, but from uncivilized tribes.
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I think my meditation has taken me to a point where I understand jinn very well.
Jinn/spirits, seem to be ghosts of unreal concepts. (aka idols, assigning infinity to universe, claiming random origins, etc) However in a divine mind, that can cause quite some perplexion. Therefore they may delude their believers into etablishing belief in them. Ultimately one can understand that that would cause hellfire. Absolute belief, in the unreal, and unnatural behaviour.
Belief in multiple gods ultimately is a self-defilation on par with sexual abuse.
On a lesser scale, feelings of promiscuity, and satan is the spirit of promiscuity. Typically when watching disbelievers popmusic, for instance. Note, I am not saying music is illegal, but it depends on who writes it. Feelings like that clearly is satan, when the other does not respect a relationship of trust, and simply goes on to the next "lover".
A spirit free and peaceful mind, seems to come from correct dualistic (non-pantheistic) monotheistic teachings.
Correct monotheistic belief, leads to a gradual purification of the mind. Prayer contains the most essential elements of faith, and therefore we talk of prayer and purification. One can also meditate on aspects of the creator, ultimately believing in it, and making it a part of ones monotheistic life.Peace.