The inexplainable paradox God.
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I can`t see that a dimensionless being has any limits.
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I can`t see that a dimensionless being has any limits.
I think we won't run into contradictions or paradoxes regarding God. God gave us reason and i think that via that we could rationally prove God. We can't do that if our reasoning only takes us as far as paradoxes when trying to understand God.
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Life is that paradox, niminimak.
Else God/life/consciousness would be a finite state machine.
Acceptance of this paradox, is embracing life, being. "I am that I am".
If you think humour, compassion, joy, comes from a machine, you are very wrong.
PS I just came over this site Look at http//www.near-death.com/ "Scientific Evidence of Survival". Even when brain death, there is consciousness.
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Atheist always wins if they can constrict God in Logic.
God believer will not defeat Atheist, if they use Logic to Proof God.
Atheist cannot defeat God, if God incomprehensible. God can do everything.
Now Logic defeats Atheist, If God can do everything ie God can be Illogical.
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Atheists usually think life is a machine. Some, like sartre think life is the cause of the universe though. He names himself atheists for not believing in an external God I think. If he only knew that the original only God was indeed lifeforce.
We are lifeforce, and create everything.
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It is true you will run into paradoxes when considering what God is.
However we must be aware that logic is of the universe and God is not. The universe is a 4 dimensional bounded construct and inside of this things like paradoxes and Godel's incompleteness theorem apply. However these apply only to systems and God is not a system, God is one. The fact that the universe has dimensions and boundaries means it is not infinite. However we can define infinite in many ways, one being "all there is, in the universe". Using this definition of "all there is/infinity" to apply to God's infinite qualities will produce paradoxes. The mathematical definition of infinity is "boundless/limitless" which is far more apt for talking of God. However God is yet beyond all these things.
"That is why God is TRANCENDENT. He transcends logic" - That is the key point. God is inexplicable and while we cannot explain Him, we can explain why He is inexplicable via Godel's theorem. No consistent system can encompass its originator. What does the 4D universe exist "in"? That's God.
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The universe exists by the infinitely powerful God.
But infintely powerful is a a paradox in itself, in that being infinite is a limit in itself, not being able to be finite.
And now you laugh, because The Paradox Is Us.
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The universe exists by the infinitely powerful God.
But infintely powerful is a a paradox in itself, in that being infinite is a limit in itself, not being able to be finite.
And now you laugh, because The Paradox Is Us.
I don't think there is a paradox.
I don't get how being infinite is a limit? The limit is where its finite.
Now since it's infinite in might, it could be argued that it has the might to inflict finiteness upon itself.Where's the paradox in that?
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Life is that paradox, niminimak.
Else God/life/consciousness would be a finite state machine.
Acceptance of this paradox, is embracing life, being. "I am that I am".
If you think humour, compassion, joy, comes from a machine, you are very wrong.
PS I just came over this site Look at http//www.near-death.com/ "Scientific Evidence of Survival". Even when brain death, there is consciousness.
I disagree/dont understand the above.
How does
Life is that paradox, niminimak.Result in
Else God/life/consciousness would be a finite state machine -
Atheist always wins if they can constrict God in Logic.
God believer will not defeat Atheist, if they use Logic to Proof God.
Atheist cannot defeat God, if God incomprehensible. God can do everything.
Now Logic defeats Atheist, If God can do everything ie God can be Illogical.
I actually think the opposite, with logic and reason we have the blessed advantave when discussing with people the existence of God.
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And when you know it all, you also know nothing.
I mean there is a lot of people out there who don`t even believe in God, but that still is God.
All will is the eternal will.
also see http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603052.msg286076#msg286076