I want to share with u a translation
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Mohammad is Isa.. mighty messengers...highest position in power....Isa is called Ahmed....
This is just ridiculous..
We took from the Prophets their covenant and from you, from Noah and Abraham, from Moses and Jesus the son of Mary. We took a solemn covenant from them,
In this verse, you can see that whom speaking with and Jesus were obviously different people. Do you think that Quran revealed to another prophet besides Mohammad? Please read the book more carefully.
Peace.
Who is "You"?
Muhammad, in the Quran-Book;
3144 Muhammad is not but a messenger. messengers have passed on before him. So if he was to die or be killed, would you turn back on your heels? And he who turns back on his heels will never harm Allah at all; but Allah will reward the grateful.
3340 Muhammad is not the father of one of your men, but the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets. And ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing.
472 And those who believe and do righteous deeds and believe in what has been sent down upon Muhammad - and it is the truth from their Lord - He will remove from them their misdeeds and amend their condition.
4829 Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating, seeking bounty from Allah and pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.
For Jesus is Muhammad, Muhammad is Jesus, I have nothing to support that.
maybe Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammad is the same man, I have no proof of that.
I need Verse from Quran that sound like, "Jesus said I am Muhammad"
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Please, correct me if i made mistakes, and discuss if not satisfied , I have too many words in translation, that makes u feel reading english in arabic frensh and spanish, in other words, if a messenger speaks the true meaning of the quran, every nation of the world understands no matter what langage they speak, it is that we put the meaning of the words not in their context , that is why when en english hears the quran he feels it's a different language lol
Salaam my dear brother,
It is better to give some aayaats along with your meanings so that we can tally your meanings and understand it in a better way, inshaAllah.
May Allah guide us all to His true path pr
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Mohammad is Isa.. mighty messengers...highest position in power....Isa is called Ahmed....
This is just ridiculous..
We took from the Prophets their covenant and from you, from Noah and Abraham, from Moses and Jesus the son of Mary. We took a solemn covenant from them,
In this verse, you can see that whom speaking with and Jesus were obviously different people. Do you think that Quran revealed to another prophet besides Mohammad? Please read the book more carefully.
Peace.
NoNo I didn't say Isa is Ahmed, I said Mohamed is the seal of the messengers that's all
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Salaam my dear brother,
It is better to give some aayaats along with your meanings so that we can tally your meanings and understand it in a better way, inshaAllah.
May Allah guide us all to His true path pr
Mohammed M. Khansalam brither
Muhamed is no more than a messenger... al-imrane 44
Massi son of miriam is no more than a messenger ... al-maida75
anf if he is dead or killed ...al-imrane44
They didn't kill him nor executed him... Nissa157
look at the similarity of these ayahs, this is how the coran is written right?
plus, the quran been hosted to messsengers in parts, every messenger received a part a,d puts it in the quran, until it was done by the time of ahmed or someone else after Isa, of in the time of Isa, for thee was other messengers in his ime, exemple, Yahya -
it still a speculation.
Repetition do not Justified it as a same Person.
For examples;
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2+2=4,
Hadith Bukhari narrates 2+2=4Thus,
....since Hadith Bukhari narrates 2+2=4, 2+2=4 may be wrong?Moses a Messenger
Jesus a MessengerThus Moses and Jesus is the same Person?
Any Tyrannical Ruler will kill any Opposition to their Status.
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Who is "You"?
Muhammad, in the Quran-Book;
3144 Muhammad is not but a messenger. messengers have passed on before him. So if he was to die or be killed, would you turn back on your heels? And he who turns back on his heels will never harm Allah at all; but Allah will reward the grateful.
3340 Muhammad is not the father of one of your men, but the Messenger of Allah and last of the prophets. And ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing.
According to 340, (despite its correct translation should be "seal/closure of prophets" "you" must be who called as "Muhammad" in Quran. Because if prophets are ended/closed with Muhammed, latest script (Quran) must be revealed to him. If latest script in our hand is The Quran, then its prophet should be Muhammad. Just simple logic.
Peace.
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According to 340, (despite its correct translation should be "seal/closure of prophets" "you" must be who called as "Muhammad" in Quran. Because if prophets are ended/closed with Muhammed, latest script (Quran) must be revealed to him. If latest script in our hand is The Quran, then its prophet should be Muhammad. Just simple logic.
Peace.
If you translate the SEAL as the meaning of the LAST, than why Allah say
He is the First and the Last and the apprent and the hidden... sourah hadid 3
The last obviously is written AKHIR and not Khatimthe problem is , the word NABI doesn't tranlate PROPHET , BUT a Ruler who Rules with the BOOK of ALLAH , they can exist even now, they don't receive a message as messengers do, but if the people are honest and correct, they can understand the BOOK when they're rulers, thus they are NABI
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We gave the Torah in is heed and light, so will juge by it the NABIYEEN that asslamou ...
any juge, who asslama, and rule with the book is called a nabi , a rassoul is hagher, for he receives the Rissala
a prophet is someone who sees the Future and is called KAHIN in the Quran
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Makes so much more sense Loxbox, thank you for your understandings.
Especially the definition of "prophet" as "seer of the future" which makes far more sense because people try to portray all the prophets as godly beings when in reality they simply yielded to ALLAH when ALLAH called.
Few people have broken out of the word-prison that we keep ourselves in.
Words are inimately connected, not only by meaning but by the very nature of their roots, syllables, structure.
All words exist in relation to other word structures.
Peace
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Makes so much more sense Loxbox, thank you for your understandings.
Especially the definition of "prophet" as "seer of the future" which makes far more sense because people try to portray all the prophets as godly beings when in reality they simply yielded to ALLAH when ALLAH called.
Few people have broken out of the word-prison that we keep ourselves in.
Words are inimately connected, not only by meaning but by the very nature of their roots, syllables, structure.
All words exist in relation to other word structures.
Peace
Words are the most powerful thing in the human life, and words are the ROUH , that we live by
imagine , when you study how THEY sructured languagesRouh , usually understood as spirit, but no one knows the real meaning , because it was hidden by our fellow humans in purpose, for imagine, Allh doesn't speak to us in words wr cannot comprehend, for that will be simply ridiculous
spirit = ESPRIT is frensh and spanish
whenever they want to hide a deep meaning of a word, THEY used the letter X
EXPRESSION is in reality ESPRESSION ESPR ESSION , that is SPIRIT , ROUH, it simply means EXPRESSION, but it was hidden for the purpose of making it sound mysterious to make some meanings in the quran, or to alter meanings in the Quran
search the roots of the words and you will realiseanother exemple , KOULOU wa CHRABOU , is usually used for food, but these words are used for science
College = COLLE GE = the word KOULOU is there in the form of COLLE
SCHOOL = S CHOOL = Also the word KOULOU is there , with an S satanic in the 1st letter
CHRABOU = ABSORB = AB SORB , the S is replacing the CH , but it is the same structure and letters
imagine, the frensh, the masters of deceit
you know the university SORBONE ? CHORBON , the same word that is related directly to scienceBUT Why will they hide these from ARABS ? because, they want to make the CHAHR RAMADAN KOULOU WA CHRABOU , is food related, this simple
well, in places, in the quran, koulou wa chrabou is fod related, but many verses, they are science related , because remember , KOLOU is related to KALEM
the biggest deceit is the PREFIX in languages, for exemple , SAFARIN of tthe quran is the PREFIX Trans in other languages , but this t had to be altered because of WUDU , to make ghassl and salat becoming a ritual
idha kountoum ala safarin, meaning on a transition and not on a tripPlease bear with me on this , to explain all what I been talking about , and most people are calling me crazy, and this happened even to messengers in the past , so I , a normal person in search, can't get upset at all for this ,well when I read this
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...an arab and foreigner?... fussilat 44
, i realised that messengers were speaking to an english man for exemple, with the language of the quran, while he understood every single word
the reason is like I said, the Tongue of the Quran, is the mother of all languages , with proof
and arabic language is as stranger to the quran as english and frensh etc...let me give an ewample to prouve it
SAMAA = Sky in english , and in Frensh = Ciel
Samaa = Sky = CielSa Maa = Waterer
Sky = Sikaya also waterer
Ciel = Siyel also waterer , all these 3 words, Samaa - Sky - Ciel when pronounced in arabic , they mean the same thing, waterer , and of course u gonne say , but water isn't arab, well , partly true, but in the quran it is called Quitr as in suleiman all three words in one verse, wa assalna lahou ain al QUITER meaning the AIN of WATER
, too closeMypoint is, some people thaught i am thse kind who likes to say good things about the arabic language, but it is not the case at all, for I know that modern arabic is created through english and frensh etc... to alter completely the muslims , and make them not understand the quran at all , lost, forvever, with the help of hadith specially, total dellusion
there is no english, frensh , arabic, spanish etc... the story of the bible when they say, people were all speaking the same language, than it was separated by the creation of different languages , it is about the Allocution ARAB of the quran, that they created from all languages
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He is the First and the Last and the apprent and the hidden... sourah hadid 3
The last obviously is written AKHIR and not KhatimSalaam bro,
"Aakhar" does not mean "Last" but it means "Next".
"Aakhirat" = Next life
If you say 'huwal awwalu wal aakhiru' means 'He is the first and the last' then who are in between first and last? It means He is the first and the next.
Please look at 174-7, the word used is AlAakhirati in 17712
May Allah increase us all in knowledge and guide us all to His true path. pr
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Salaam bro,
"Aakhar" does not mean "Last" but it means "Next".
"Aakhirat" = Next life
If you say 'huwal awwalu wal aakhiru' means 'He is the first and the last' then who are in between first and last? It means He is the first and the next.
Please look at 174-7, the word used is AlAakhirati in 17712
May Allah increase us all in knowledge and guide us all to His true path. pr
Mohammed M. KhanAkhir = Next
Akhar = Other
Akheer = Lastis last isn't Akhir , than how to say Last in arab ???
Khatem = Seal or Ring and not last, Khatama aala afwahihim = Sealed their mouths
Good talking to u bro