Ginn, Inss, Vagina, Peniss, Male , femele
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Respected brother loxbox13
Because these men dont agree with Allah. Thats it. They agree with Satan more than Allah, hence the need of altering the text.
I am very amazed about your studies of Quran, May God bless you many times for your affords. Many of your studies have also helped me a lot. However, there are just a few things you pointed out which is not quite clear for me. One of them is that Naar means light. Please look at this verse below
Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shall expose them to the Fire. As often as their skins are consumed We shall exchange them for fresh skins that they may taste the torment. 456
How can light be torment? And how can they be in light for ever?
So they were not the first human beings?
Looking forward for your reply.
Peace
Salam brother, I study and many times I get it right, sometimes I post when I'm not sure, to be corrected, different point of Views are important , self critic because there is only one truth, and that is, I am right, or I am not, there is none in between, and if someone get stubborn for his ideas, doesn't make him right if he is wrong
about NAR , this word is a prefix, doesn't exist in arabic language, but if you see clearly in the quran, you will realise it is full of them
I am preparing a whole text with verses, that explain in detail
Mook at other languages how they used the word NAR
anarchy, Inferno , luminary , nerve, etc...
logic says, that Genes are created from Nerves, right, that is JANN created from NARR , same thing, same original language
ALNARI is HELL
ALNARO is in this world, all verses that says ALNARO , we get in this word, That is ANARCHY ETC...NOOR isn't Light, or Luminary, But it is RAY , in frensh it is RAYON , that is why this word NOOR is used as the true light, and the light of perception
about Adam , and his wife aren't first men at all, if u read the quran, u can clearly see there was many humans before Adam, the one who learned Language. forming words, it is called ASMAA in the quran
Gin or Jin etc.. u can clearly see phoneticcaly the difference between these words in the quran
Jinnati wa nass
Inss wa Jinn
Jaan
etc...
usually, the hidden things, like the sex of a femele, is called Jinna because, it is not like men organ, it is in the inside , for that reason, femele sex is called JinnJanna is another thing, usually translated heaven, but it means fertility , everything grows , just like a women is called HARTH , because she is like Jannah, she make growth of babies etc...
How can light be torment? And how can they be in light for ever?
exposed to NAR doesn't mean fire
in reality, Fire, Harr, HareeQ , they all can means fire, but they're not
NAR is always translated as Fire , and this is very very wrong, people deceived us, because of this, for exemple, DHANN usually translated doubt, but there are verses in the quran, people who did DHAN to meet allah will go to paradise etc...
people suffere in this world if they don't apply the administrative and justice of Allah, in the quran, and that anarchy is called Alnaro alsothey altered this so every verse will be felt like he's talking about the hearafter, so muslims will live ffor the hearafter, and forget the purpose of creation, that we are meant to live this life, good results, JANNAH or bad results NAR in this world , when talking about NARR in this world, better translat it ANARCHY, or SUFFERING, or sometimes, he speaks about NAR as WAR
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OK let?s test using word substitution?
1526-27 and surely We created the human from clay from black mud altered and the jinn (the vagina according to you) We created him/it from before from fire the scorching
Thus the ages old question is resolved of what came first ? the hot vagina or the human? ! lol
Seriously ?imaginative? for sure!
1526-27 and surely We created the human from clay from black mud altered and the jinn (the vagina according to you) We created him/it from before from fire the scorching
Jaan is intelligence , Genes a,d not vagina
, hamain is not bluck mud, it is a heat, a kind of fever
Massnoon, is like Sunnat, natural, constanthamain massnoon, means a fiever constant , it is 37 degrees i believe
Jaan = intelligence, Genes etc..
Nar = Nerves
Samoum = Higher, upper, like soumou, means superior
Nar Samoom means nerves superior, or High, or Top etc..Allah knows best
don't male Fun, research to the point of getting myopie, it's not for fun n I wanna share, u feel it's crazy, just ignore it , that's all
thank youPS u never asked a question , we know they call unknown men, John, hecause of Johnson (penis) John son is the son of John right, he is the son and not the john lol ? , but why do they call a woman JANE DOE ? why Jane ? ask them and the 1st magistrat will tell you , I don't know, just like that
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I think you drank too much Gin there buddy. Can I have my mind back now? I'll stop worshipping Satan, I swear!
Satan doesn't exist brother lol
satan is nothing but a creation of religious people, also to dellud people from the truth
stan is wikedness, as simple as that
Ibliss is Malice, it is in the genes and not a kind of a giny somewhere, or spirit , all fake , the quran says it clear, Ibliss exist in the Genes , and Nerves, it is the Malice part of Us -
Satan doesn't exist brother lol
satan is nothing but a creation of religious people, also to dellud people from the truth
stan is wikedness, as simple as that
Ibliss is Malice, it is in the genes and not a kind of a giny somewhere, or spirit , all fake , the quran says it clear, Ibliss exist in the Genes , and Nerves, it is the Malice part of UsBut than what about the quranic story about Ibliss(satan) who was asked to bow down to Adam but refused hence he was cursed?
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Salam brother, I study and many times I get it right, sometimes I post when I'm not sure, to be corrected, different point of Views are important , self critic because there is only one truth, and that is, I am right, or I am not, there is none in between, and if someone get stubborn for his ideas, doesn't make him right if he is wrong
about NAR , this word is a prefix, doesn't exist in arabic language, but if you see clearly in the quran, you will realise it is full of them
I am preparing a whole text with verses, that explain in detail
Mook at other languages how they used the word NAR
anarchy, Inferno , luminary , nerve, etc...
logic says, that Genes are created from Nerves, right, that is JANN created from NARR , same thing, same original language
ALNARI is HELL
ALNARO is in this world, all verses that says ALNARO , we get in this word, That is ANARCHY ETC...NOOR isn't Light, or Luminary, But it is RAY , in frensh it is RAYON , that is why this word NOOR is used as the true light, and the light of perception
about Adam , and his wife aren't first men at all, if u read the quran, u can clearly see there was many humans before Adam, the one who learned Language. forming words, it is called ASMAA in the quran
Gin or Jin etc.. u can clearly see phoneticcaly the difference between these words in the quran
Jinnati wa nass
Inss wa Jinn
Jaan
etc...
usually, the hidden things, like the sex of a femele, is called Jinna because, it is not like men organ, it is in the inside , for that reason, femele sex is called JinnJanna is another thing, usually translated heaven, but it means fertility , everything grows , just like a women is called HARTH , because she is like Jannah, she make growth of babies etc...
How can light be torment? And how can they be in light for ever?
exposed to NAR doesn't mean fire
in reality, Fire, Harr, HareeQ , they all can means fire, but they're not
NAR is always translated as Fire , and this is very very wrong, people deceived us, because of this, for exemple, DHANN usually translated doubt, but there are verses in the quran, people who did DHAN to meet allah will go to paradise etc...
people suffere in this world if they don't apply the administrative and justice of Allah, in the quran, and that anarchy is called Alnaro alsothey altered this so every verse will be felt like he's talking about the hearafter, so muslims will live ffor the hearafter, and forget the purpose of creation, that we are meant to live this life, good results, JANNAH or bad results NAR in this world , when talking about NARR in this world, better translat it ANARCHY, or SUFFERING, or sometimes, he speaks about NAR as WAR
So you mean they altered it so that every verse in the quran will be felt like hes talking about the hearafter and they created hadith in order to have people know about this life?
But we cannot doubt that there are actually a life hearafter right? for instances in surah qiyamah talks about life hearafter?
But what does god mean than by they will forbide FOREVER in JANNAH where there would be RIVERS? -
But than what about the quranic story about Ibliss(satan) who was asked to bow down to Adam but refused hence he was cursed?
Brother, there is intelligence, and Malice in the human mind
Intelligence, is Jann , and malice is the other part of Jann
these people reverse the communicative words of Allah
he said in surah Najm, , those who don't believe in the herafter, will name MALAIKA names of femeles , this wasn't said for nothing
IbLISS = IB Father, LISS = negative/negation/opposition like layssa = none *
to feminin this word or name, they reverse Ib to Am , father to mother , Iblice to MaliceAllah is speaking to the wicked part of the human mind, that doesn't serve humans, wich is the malice in us, that make us wicked when used, for we use it only for egoist purposes , or to do mischief
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So you mean they altered it so that every verse in the quran will be felt like hes talking about the hearafter and they created hadith in order to have people know about this life?
But we cannot doubt that there are actually a life hearafter right? for instances in surah qiyamah talks about life hearafter?
But what does god mean than by they will forbide FOREVER in JANNAH where there would be RIVERS?Don't you think that ANHAR means abundance ? what anout honey, milk, wine, do you imagine the word ANHAR mean abundance or Rivers ?
I can't see a river with honey flowing, but i can understand abundance of Honey.Anhar is a synonym of Khayrate , meaning, abandance of good things , and rivers is just a part, and a river is called AWDIYA in the quran, and not Anhar
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we braught down from the sky water, and flowed AWDIYA with a measure... 1317
as u see, awdiya ( rivers) do SAYL ( liquified)
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1526-27 and surely We created the human from clay from black mud altered and the jinn (the vagina according to you) We created him/it from before from fire the scorching
Jaan is intelligence , Genes a,d not vagina
First you wrote that you were amazed and ...
that Jinn and Inss are Vagina and Penis
Are you now saying Jinn is an intelligent vagina and was created before al-insna/the penis according to you?
1526 and surely We created al-insna/the human from clay from black mud altered
1527 and the jinn We created him/it from before from fire the scorching5514 created al-insna/the human from clay like the pottery
5515 and created the jinn from a smokeless flame from firePerhaps substitute penis for all 58 (2x29 if into codes) al-insna/the human and see if it makes sense.
1031 and/by the time
1032 indeed al-insna/the human surely in loss
1033 only/except the ones who believe and do the righteous works and exhort one another in truth and exhort one another in patiencedon't male Fun, research to the point of getting myopie, it's not for fun n I wanna share, u feel it's crazy, just ignore it , that's all
thank youPS u never asked a question , we know they call unknown men, John, hecause of Johnson (penis) John son is the son of John right, he is the son and not the john lol ? , but why do they call a woman JANE DOE ? why Jane ? ask them and the 1st magistrat will tell you , I don't know, just like that
You post, the world reads, anyone here can reply, and this has JACK to do with anything.
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First you wrote that you were amazed and ...
Are you now saying Jinn is an intelligent vagina and was created before al-insna/the penis according to you?
1526 and surely We created al-insna/the human from clay from black mud altered
1527 and the jinn We created him/it from before from fire the scorching5514 created al-insna/the human from clay like the pottery
5515 and created the jinn from a smokeless flame from firePerhaps substitute penis for all 58 (2x29 if into codes) al-insna/the human and see if it makes sense.
1031 and/by the time
1032 indeed al-insna/the human surely in loss
1033 only/except the ones who believe and do the righteous works and exhort one another in truth and exhort one another in patienceYou post, the world reads, anyone here can reply, and this has JACK to do with anything.
I'm sorry , but u still can't see that AlJaan and AlJinn are 2 different words, and not the same
Look at them clearly, in pronouciation
Jaan , Jinn , do they look the same to you .?
look at them in arabic, u don't have to know arabic to see that they're written differently
,If u can't see this, than clearly , to you , HEAR means HERE , also HER means HAIR right.???
'sorry for been sarcastic'
so we can't discuss, because you made up your mind, unless u can see when words don't write the same, and don't sound the same phonetically, this means these are different words that mean 2 different things -
I'm sorry , but u still can't see that AlJaan and AlJinn are 2 different words, and not the same
Look at them clearly, in pronouciation
Jaan , Jinn , do they look the same to you .?
look at them in arabic, u don't have to know arabic to see that they're written differently
,If u can't see this, than clearly , to you , HEAR means HERE , also HER means HAIR right.???
'sorry for been sarcastic'
so we can't discuss, because you made up your mind, unless u can see when words don't write the same, and don't sound the same phonetically, this means these are different words that mean 2 different thingsThen lets start over and perhaps you should post the Arabic and write more clearly.
Now tell us what you wrote Qur'an said -- which word is vagina and which is penis?
I am Amazed
Allah said it clearly, that Jinn and Inss are Vagina and Penis
Or perhaps better to say you are sorry ask the moderators to move this to the trash section or delete the thread.
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Don't get too cocky, cats and dogs have penis and vagina too, they also have brains of a linguist but unlike free-minders they have better things to do with it.
peaceIMHO do you have something against freeminders? Your attitude towards freeminders is very negative, its not first time you attack freeminders calling them as some who dont have better things to do. Oh yeah? Do YOU have better things to do than the freeminders? If you have so much against freeminders, what are you doing on their forum by the way? Our brother loxbox13 is trying to highlight some of his point, and he is totally entitled to express his views and share them with us. If you have a problem with it, than dont read it. So simple is that.
Peace
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calling them as some who dont have better things to do. Oh yeah?
PeaceTruth hurts.. doesnt it WhereIsTheTruth.
Oh yeah well can you then deny that cats and dogs do have vigina and penis
Our brother loxbox13 is trying to highlight some of his point, and he is totally entitled to express his views and share them with us.Everyone here explains the Qur'an but when it comes to the prophet.. well his job was only to deliver like a post man, he was not entitled to express any of his views and its you lot who have got god given right to twist and turn meaning of the Qur'an as you wish.
What are you doing on their forum by the way?
I am checking those who are bent on deislaminization, creating doubts and promoting nagitivity generating hate propoganda, mainly against sunnis, they spend most of their time passing judgements on others instead of looking into your own self.
If you have a problem with it, than dont read it. So simple is that.
I don't really read most of BS here but that does not mean that I should tolerate it, this useless discussion here kept poping up so its was about time that I put my 2p.
However thanks to few contributors who from time to time start sensibel discussion here which is exchange of good knowledge but now most don't bohter and now
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IMHO
Truth hurts.. doesnt it WhereIsTheTruth.
Oh yeah well can you then deny that cats and dogs do have vigina and penisI dont get what you mean by truth hurts. No truth does not hurts, truth is the best thing to know, thats why freeminders like to be here on this forum in order to search for the truth
Everyone here explains the Qur'an but when it comes to the prophet.. well his job was only to deliver like a post man, he was not entitled to express any of his views and its you lot who have got god given right to twist and turn meaning of the Qur'an as you wish
What do you mean by the prophet? do you expect us to leave God and start worshipping a human? If you mean Muhammed than personally I dont think some Muhammad ibn Abdullah ever exsisted. I dont have any proof for his exsistence and I dont really care either.. Logically there must have been a person who got the quran on first place, and since Quran is in his language I think he was an arab.. but I dont know anything further about him. And As I said, I dont really care. In every case he was a human like me, and I am not in the search for humans, I am in the search for the true God.
Peace
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Then lets start over and perhaps you should post the Arabic and write more clearly.
Now tell us what you wrote Qur'an said -- which word is vagina and which is penis?
Or perhaps better to say you are sorry ask the moderators to move this to the trash section or delete the thread.
U stuck with peniss and vagina a,d you have sex organ in your mind
U still didn't get my point, that these words, in english / Frensh originated from INSS and JINN , they are not strictly penis and vagina, and if you think this thread is trash, than sorry about itaccording to you
The quran , didn't speak about ENERGY , ANARCHY, RAYS, INTELLIGENCE, MIND , PERSONNALITY, MALICE, SUBLIMINALS, MANIPULATION ETC ... Or maybe Allah didn't know about all these?
than Allah can't make a difference between Liquid and Water, and can't make the difference between JINN as Genuises, JAAN as intelligence, ALJINA as femele , ALJANNA as Garden or maybe they're all the same, but pronouce differently
According to you , the Quran isn't complete at all , if it is , how can he forget to mention intelligence ?
I tell you , the story of Adam and Ibliss, is the Story of yourself and your bad side in the mind , as simple as that, it is an explanation of human nature , no more no less, or maybe you don't believe you are ADAM ? if you didn't know that you are ADAM than you still didn't understand the point of the Quranwhat about the system humanity has to follow? u think it exists in the quran ? did the quran speak about SECULAR system ? did he speak about DEMOCRACY ? if yes, where is it ? if not, than the quran isn't complete at all
What about the trinity ? who is MANET ? UZA ? ALLAT ? are they statues in history ??? Allah making fun of Us mentionning the names of STATUES ? or it is something else???
Why does Allah say, PEOPLE WHO DONT TRUST IN THE FEARAFTER? CALL MALAIKA FEMININ NAMES ? making fun of us ? did you see humanity think malaoka as femeles??? or it has adifferent meaning ??? Why what Moses LAYED His ASSA , it became like JAAN and not JINN ??? or maybe it's all the same ???
U polluted my thread, I wanted to discuss this point of JINN And JANN And JINNAH and JANNAH etc... but u get stuck with peniss and vagina ??? sexual organs??? I could have said it in a vulgar way for penis and vagina if this was the subject , but it isn'tignore the thread, CLOSE IT
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I tell you , the story of Adam and Ibliss, is the Story of yourself and your bad side in the mind , as simple as that, it is an explanation of human nature , no more no less, or maybe you don't believe you are ADAM ? if you didn't know that you are ADAM than you still didn't understand the point of the Quran
Very intresting brother. Can you please clearify more about adam and ibliss... and what about the wife of adam? But one thing I dont get is, that why God calls us BANI adam and not Adam? Doesnt Bani means that we are children of adam?
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IMHO
I dont get what you mean by truth hurts. No truth does not hurts, truth is the best thing to know, thats why freeminders like to be here on this forum in order to search for the truth
What do you mean by the prophet? do you expect us to leave God and start worshipping a human? If you mean Muhammed than personally I dont think some Muhammad ibn Abdullah ever exsisted. I dont have any proof for his exsistence and I dont really care either.. Logically there must have been a person who got the quran on first place, and since Quran is in his language I think he was an arab.. but I dont know anything further about him. And As I said, I dont really care. In every case he was a human like me, and I am not in the search for humans, I am in the search for the true God.
Peace
Who cares what you care and accept the truth even if hurts you that Muhammad ibn Abdullah did exist and was chosen as prophet for us Muslims; not for people like you.
No matter how hard you try you will never succeed in extinguishing the light of Allah truth will prevail insha'Allah
For now yay enjoy the little time you have as its is in the great plan of Allah to allow you this short dominance on earth, but only for a short while so you cannot later complain that you never got your chance.
To Allah we blong to Him we return hail -
Very intresting brother. Can you please clearify more about adam and ibliss... and what about the wife of adam? But one thing I dont get is, that why God calls us BANI adam and not Adam? Doesnt Bani means that we are children of adam?
We are All adam, therefore, because your parents are Adam too, therefore we are Bani Adam, here Adam is pluriel and not singular
the 1st man , who get bestowed the power of speach, language, therefore reasoning, is Adam bit not the son of Adam, because his parents were of a primitive race, his mother didn't propably speak language at allu might ask a question, how come Adam has a mother , and the Quran didn't tell us about !
well the quran did tell us aboutThe similitude of Isa for Allah is the same as Adam, he created him from earth, therefore he said to him be, and he will be 359
If Isa was a man born a naturel birth from a femele woumb, than adam is the same according to this verse
he , ADAM ; get that special title for he is the first man gettung the faculty of language speech , intelligence became illimited and wide
it's like , almassih, meaning the one who take out almass, almass is illness, and because he negates it, with the H at the end of the word, therefore massih means medecin, he was the greatest of all mankind, he gets the title , u can find the english word AMISS means illness, check dictionnary and u find out the truth of the word, and how it's been manipulated to give it a sense of a religious word
imssahou means , take out dirt, disease, illness etc... it has a wide senseso , when you made is the woumb, u still only mineral materials and proteins coming from the food of your mother, therefore coming from earth, than you fashioned, that after you start speaking, u start doing bad things since childhood, the moment u start speaking, simple words, that moment u start developing your malice, for u start been egoist, wanna eat all candy for yourself without giving to other kids etc... these verses are explaning the human nature, and what part we shall avoid from our mind
ADAM is U , me, and every single man who can speak , think and decide after reasoning.
remember , he said about u and me and everyody this verse, that makes it clear
An we created you, gave you shape than we told malaika subjugate to Adam, they sudjugated except IBLICE he wasn't among those who subjugated 711
this verse , says it all, pluriel, all of us, when u start speaking as a baby, all malaika subjugated to you except IBLICE , he didn't subjugate to you , and now he is trying to control your body and mind, from your mind ofcourse, because he is a part of you, a part of your mind , a part of your speech etc..
this is how I see it, the same that Happened to Adam, the first one of our species, the same happenend to all of us, the same exact story, and of course, they gave it a historical concept, so this story won't concern us , thus we will feel, therefore we will not understand our own nature
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. start over discussion, cause I like you Noon de plume.
Then lets start over and perhaps you should post the Arabic and write more clearly.
Jinn, Jann , Aljin Aljaan , are word , prefix of many meaning, according to the quran
in some verses, when speaking of species Inss and Jinn, it means male femele , I explained
in some verses, as in solomon, it means Genuises , or Nerds
in some verses, it means intelligence Jaan , as in the creation
when spoken by itself, it means different thing, according to the subject, sometimes, it means Engendring, as in the woumb Ajinnah
Nerds, or Genuises are called Jinn in the quran, according to regular people who are not nerds like us, we 're called Inssnotice, you never see Inssan wa and Jinn , because inssane is dual, Inss and Jinn, Male and femele
the thugs frensh and english, gave these words as names of femele and male organs, because they don't care about the sacred language, or Allah, they defy him.
sometimes Jinn is widely what is hidden , and notice all english words, that are close to Jinn, Jann , Aljinn, Aljinnah, etc .. Intelligence , genuis , vagina , gender even the word hidden , Genes etc..
this is the same case in all languages, check out frensh, Gens, Genie, Vagin, Gendre , Genes etc , and they all from the same origin as arabic, spanish, german, etc.. all these languages are the same origin