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    Ervin
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    Peace Gnosis and welcome to the forums. I hope you work out acurately what's the will of God and God alone.

    Thanks

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      Student_of_Allah
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      Yes that is the one. While I don't believe and agree with everything the series says it does reveal some good information. There is no doubt a conspiracy going on where a small group of people are controlling the rest.

      Shalom,

      My friend. You dont need harry potter , lord of the rings explanation for people being controlled by few individuals. It is common sense. If you have a group of 100 people. There will always be some talented individuals and some dumb ones. Majority will be between talent and dumbness. Now, among the talented ones, there will be good and bad people. The good and bad ones know that they can benefit by using their intellect to control the masses in a way that they benefit from it. The good ones dont misuse their talent, but the bad ones do. Thats it !!! You dont need projects and movements to explain such basic social science. And before you talk about GLOBAL issues, let it be known that "birds of the same feather flock together". So, inorder to survive in GLOBAL scale, these bad individuals can sort out terms between them to control people on a global scale. Its called international politics and foreign policy.

      PEACE
      -------------- Student of Allah

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        Gnosis
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        Shalom,

        My friend. You dont need harry potter , lord of the rings explanation for people being controlled by few individuals. It is common sense. If you have a group of 100 people. There will always be some talented individuals and some dumb ones. Majority will be between talent and dumbness. Now, among the talented ones, there will be good and bad people. The good and bad ones know that they can benefit by using their intellect to control the masses in a way that they benefit from it. The good ones dont misuse their talent, but the bad ones do. Thats it !!! You dont need projects and movements to explain such basic social science. And before you talk about GLOBAL issues, let it be known that "birds of the same feather flock together". So, inorder to survive in GLOBAL scale, these bad individuals can sort out terms between them to control people on a global scale. Its called international politics and foreign policy.

        PEACE
        -------------- Student of Allah

        Salaam,

        My "friend", I never said anything about lord of the rings, harry potter explaination or any of that other nonsense you spewed out. I comprehend very well what's going on in the world. The money trail leads to the power, plain and simple. The world banks and corporations own and control everything and make it where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. That's real, no fantasy there kid.

        You come off as if you think you're some real intelligent guy and that I'm just some kid that needs some guidance, but the fact is you don't even know me. How about you come down off you're arrogant high horse and try to get to know someone before you go and try them on their intelligence. Is that how you greet fellow Muslims in person? May Allah grant you guidance.

        peace

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          Student_of_Allah
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          Salaam,

          My "friend", I never said anything about lord of the rings, harry potter explaination or any of that other nonsense you spewed out. I comprehend very well what's going on in the world. The money trail leads to the power, plain and simple. The world banks and corporations own and control everything and make it where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. That's real, no fantasy there kid.

          You come off as if you think you're some real intelligent guy and that I'm just some kid that needs some guidance, but the fact is you don't even know me. How about you come down off you're arrogant high horse and try to get to know someone before you go and try them on their intelligence. Is that how you greet fellow Muslims in person? May Allah grant you guidance.

          peace

          Shalom,

          FIRST

          My intention was not to claim intellectual superiority. I do not think of myself as any more or less smarter than you. I simply shared my opinions about the whole "Illuminati/free-mason/mehdi-second coming" thing. I informed you about how we can explain things without the necessity of myths and legends and theories based on conjecture.

          However, from your response, it is clear that the way I presented my opinions was very much offensive and condescending to you. I never meant my words to represent such arrogance, but since you interpret it that way, this Student of Allah is ready to say sorry.

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          I apologize for the wrong way of assembling words that hurt your feelings. I hope you are kind enough to forgive me.

          Having said all that, you can go back to my earlier post and re-read it and instead of taking it on you, direct my speech to the whole "Mehdi vs Dajjal" thing. My speech was never meant for you. But simply a reflection on the whole "Mehdi vs Dajjal" thing.

          Peace be on you
          ----------------------------- Student of Allah

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            Gnosis
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            Shalom,

            FIRST

            My intention was not to claim intellectual superiority. I do not think of myself as any more or less smarter than you. I simply shared my opinions about the whole "Illuminati/free-mason/mehdi-second coming" thing. I informed you about how we can explain things without the necessity of myths and legends and theories based on conjecture.

            However, from your response, it is clear that the way I presented my opinions was very much offensive and condescending to you. I never meant my words to represent such arrogance, but since you interpret it that way, this Student of Allah is ready to say sorry.

            LAST
            I apologize for the wrong way of assembling words that hurt your feelings. I hope you are kind enough to forgive me.

            Having said all that, you can go back to my earlier post and re-read it and instead of taking it on you, direct my speech to the whole "Mehdi vs Dajjal" thing. My speech was never meant for you. But simply a reflection on the whole "Mehdi vs Dajjal" thing.

            Peace be on you
            ----------------------------- Student of Allah

            Apology accepted. As you have said that your previous post was not meant to be offensive, forgive me for taking an offensive position.

            Trust me I'm no advocater of a second coming or Dajjal thing. My disbelief in that is part of the differences that made me leave the WUP lol.

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              Gnosis
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              Peace Gnosis and welcome to the forums. I hope you work out acurately what's the will of God and God alone.

              Thanks

              Salaam,

              Thank you brother. May Allah guide us all to the correct way.

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                Raine
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                Salam & Ii-wy em hotep, Gnosis )

                I used to be a Gnostic Christian (toward the end of my Christianity), as well as following strong Kemetic roots when I was much younger, just before I became a Christian. I actually went on a retreat to the US one year to be with others who were of Kemetic-persuasions. It was a lot of fun, but ultimately not where I felt most comfortable as time went on.

                Still I find it interesting to find both of these points in a single person here on this forum of all places D

                Love it!

                Peace~

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                  youssef4342
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                  Peace & Welcome peace group
                  Welcome to the Form! Feel free to look around the form and search!
                  I'm going to tell you dome of what i said to Raine ^ )

                  It is nice to know that you are searching and looking )
                  God Guides those who persevere in his path (2969)
                  As a note, everyone is on a path right now, it is either that we're closer to the "straight path"(16), which is the path of God, or far astray (4136).
                  As a reminder, you will be tested (292), so be on the look out! Persevere, and if it ever gets too challenging, Ask relief from God. Better yet, be safe and Ask before it happens! Pray/Ask for Guidance, Wisdom, understanding, etc. If you do not understand/unsure about something, Ask God to show you the truth. God Assures us that he answers prayers(4060), so be faithful while you're praying, even if it might seem imposible (Abraham & zakariYah begat children while in old age, and their wives infertile, and moses made a crossway into the sea... Yes, With God Everything is possible )

                  This Path is Long and endless, and commitment is Key. Even the most well knowledgable of us, don't know the whole truth, and we are not expected to do so. There are some topics in the Quran which only God Almighty knows their meanings (37), we are advized to follow the best of what was revealed to us from God 3955. Another important thing is Righteous work. If you read the Quran, there is always the notion that "those who believe, AND do good". Thus it is not by faith alone, it is by your works. (*Note Those who get to go to heaven do so because of their WORKS (743)

                  for an intro to salat & links to other articles, see reply #4 on
                  http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603302.msg290187#msg290187

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                    Kaiokenred
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                    Tells people to find the straight path and then goes to show them what's far from the straight path. Brilliant

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                      Raine
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                      Tells people to find the straight path and then goes to show them what's far from the straight path. Brilliant

                      To each his or her own journey. Let God be the judge of us all, not each other.

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                        amuslim
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                        Welcome Gnosis,

                        5 percenters. Isn't that an Black belief that black people (men?) are 5 percent of God? I also see that you draw inspiration from NOI? So what about Elijah Muhammad or Fard? According to them, Fard was God incarnate!

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