72 virgins
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I can't remember but do we have any verse in the Koran talking about men getting 72 virgins in paradise? And if not then what are 7or Ein? I can't remember if those ones were in the Koran too or not. Unfortunately for me, the Hadith and the Koran have started blending into one another.
It talks about huri virgins but there is no reference to sexual activity but perhaps beauty. The Koran says the same about boys and not just females.
Ageless youths will circulate among them, serving them. Seeing them, you would think them scattered pearls. (Surat al-Insan, 19)
There will be gardens with rivers flowing underneath and cool, refreshing shade. By the grace of Allah, devout believers will be amid shaded gardens with spreading branched, flowing springs, and whatever kind of fruit and meat they desire. In addition, they will have high-ceilinged halls with rivers flowing underneath, where they will recline on couches ranged in rows and take pleasure from the surrounding beauty. Circulating among them will be youths like hidden pearls, passing among them vessels of silver and goblets of pure crystal. Meanwhile, ?... they will be adorned with gold bracelets and pearls, and where their clothing will be of silk.? ( Surat al-Hajj, 2223)
they will have there all that their hearts desire and their eyes find delight in. You will remain in it timelessly, forever. ( Surat az-Zukhruf, 4371)
So I do not think that huris are actually sexual desires but beauty that is reserved for the faithful.
Mathew 12
24 And Jesus answering said unto them, Do ye not therefore err, because ye know not the scriptures, neither the power of God?
25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.Luke 20
34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage
35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage
36 Neither can they die any more for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection -
Why so mad? According to ahadith, women will be lucky enough to remain with their Hubby in heaven. P
Also does this mean I won't get my 72 virgins in Paradise? '(
What if a woman is single? What if she was married but hates her husband and doesn't want to be stuck with him all eternity? D And why don't man feel "lucky enough," to be with their wives in heaven? Why does God need 7ur to bribe them to be good? ;D
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I think if we are to take the verses about virgin women in paradise as being something sexual than we also have to take the eternal boys who look like pearls as sexual also. This means that both male and females and heterosexuals and homosexuals get their share.
Or
We assume that these verses are talking about beauty and servitude and not something sexual whom were created for the believers as a reward.
There is no indication from the verses that it is something sexual, we are simply assuming the term "virgins" as being something that is sexual. Meaning that these are women the people in paradise will have sexual relationships with. But there is no indication from the verses about that.
But looking at how Jesus described the situation the second option looks more like it.
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GUYS... AS YOU CAN SEE I AM A WOMAN.. SO TELL ME HONESTLY.. AM I GOING TO GET 72 VIRGIN MALES IN PARADISE OR NOT yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay yay
Shalom Aleikhom,
If the answer is NO, would you consider joining my protest ?
yay yay We want huris yay yay (not just for hanging out and playing the harp together)
Peace
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Shalom Aleikhom,
If the answer is NO, would you consider joining my protest ?
yay yay We want huris yay yay (not just for hanging out and playing the harp together)
Peace
----------- Student of Allahlol. Who doesnt want the huries P perhaps we should share the huries with each other. I keep the male virgin huries while you keep the female virgin huries
I heard from someone that the huries would be eternal virgins.. waaao. eternal virgin males rotfl rotfl
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Yeah, I think they will find it a little bit hard to get the their hubby's attention what with the 72 virgins and all. On another note, why would anyone want virgins
Hmm, good point. Then you must wait till it's your turn.
Men want virgins so that they have a good time in Paradise, didn't you know?
What if a woman is single? What if she was married but hates her husband and doesn't want to be stuck with him all eternity? D And why don't man feel "lucky enough," to be with their wives in heaven? Why does God need 7ur to bribe them to be good? ;D
If the women is single, then she gets nothing.
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Shalom Aleikhom,
If the answer is NO, would you consider joining my protest ?
yay yay We want huris yay yay (not just for hanging out and playing the harp together)
Peace
----------- Student of AllahLol at the harp ) Someone has watched too many Hollywood movies about heaven
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Lol at the harp Someone has watched too many Hollywood movies about heaven
Shalom,
Hollywood and western depiction of Heaven is the most boring concept in the universe. All white, sit on a cloud, play your harp.
Anyways, here is a proposal.
From the perspective of HRM (Huri Resource Management)
Huri Union
If I get 72 and you get 72, if we share, we have 144 in our huri collection. So, by joining my union, you not only exceed the limit of 72, you show that "Sharing is Caring". Or, what about...your taste changing with time ? No worries. The more member we can get in our union, the more powerful our huri-base becomes.
1 member = 72
2 member = 144Example of our potential
No. of Huris Union members
72 1
144 2
720 10
3600 50
14400 200
72000 1000
720000 10000
7200000 100000
72000000 1000000So, if we can only gather a million union members, we will be able to hit jackpot of 72million* hurris in the inventory.
- At any given time the number of hurris available for playing harp with you ( ) is less than the total number of huris in the inventory.
Some attractive offers
- Traditionalists can get their hurris delivered in POST BOX style outfits.
- In extreme circumstances we may have separate circumcised huri inventories for some traditionalists.
- For the Ahlul-Bidah, aka Wahabis we can arrange Huris just the way they were created, no modifications, thus no Bidah. Ofcourse later generation scholars will be asked to verify what is innovation and what is not. God may know better, but these are SHEIKHS . Sheikhs cant be wrong.
- For Quran alone followers, we will allow them to interpret the rules/regularions HOWEVER "they" see fit, regardless of making sense.
- For code 19 enthusiasts, we can ofcourse arrange special inventory sizes which are multiples of 19. Just to maintain the vibe of 19 in paradise.
Who is joining my union ?
By the way, dont be so serious, its not meant to insult anyone. I happen to be a huge fan of South Park.
Peace
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sun
Never loose your sense of Humor.. its extremelly necessary, of course without injuring no-one, mockery is Bad but smiling without bad intentions of life facts its part of this life
MUSLIMS---->> ;D angel group pr ! yes
VS
Wahabis & Co.-->> > > elektro voodoo tempt hypnoSalaam O0
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Shalom,
Hollywood and western depiction of Heaven is the most boring concept in the universe. All white, sit on a cloud, play your harp.
Anyways, here is a proposal.
From the perspective of HRM (Huri Resource Management)
Huri Union
If I get 72 and you get 72, if we share, we have 144 in our huri collection. So, by joining my union, you not only exceed the limit of 72, you show that "Sharing is Caring". Or, what about...your taste changing with time ? No worries. The more member we can get in our union, the more powerful our huri-base becomes.
1 member = 72
2 member = 144Example of our potential
No. of Huris Union members
72 1
144 2
720 10
3600 50
14400 200
72000 1000
720000 10000
7200000 100000
72000000 1000000So, if we can only gather a million union members, we will be able to hit jackpot of 72million* hurris in the inventory.
- At any given time the number of hurris available for playing harp with you ( ) is less than the total number of huris in the inventory.
Some attractive offers
- Traditionalists can get their hurris delivered in POST BOX style outfits.
- In extreme circumstances we may have separate circumcised huri inventories for some traditionalists.
- For the Ahlul-Bidah, aka Wahabis we can arrange Huris just the way they were created, no modifications, thus no Bidah. Ofcourse later generation scholars will be asked to verify what is innovation and what is not. God may know better, but these are SHEIKHS . Sheikhs cant be wrong.
- For Quran alone followers, we will allow them to interpret the rules/regularions HOWEVER "they" see fit, regardless of making sense.
- For code 19 enthusiasts, we can ofcourse arrange special inventory sizes which are multiples of 19. Just to maintain the vibe of 19 in paradise.
Who is joining my union ?
By the way, dont be so serious, its not meant to insult anyone. I happen to be a huge fan of South Park.
Peace
----------------- Student of AllahLoooooooool you're so funny and you don't know how much I needed to laugh. It's been a difficult few days. Thanks again for the laugh. God Bless you.
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this hadith or whtever about the "virgins" may be one of those instances of debasing any metaphorical or allegorical images put forward to convey
The way some people understand things mostly reveals something about the people themselves and not the things on which they reflect, or rather not reflect.Man has that power o making gold out of shit and vice versa. This last ability to transfom anything in shit should not be something to dwell much upon.
Salaam
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Well that makes sense. That they are pure beings, neither male nor female. I just get annoyed that Arab men tell each other that when they die they will have endless sex in heaven with the 7ur blah blah blah brickwall brickwall brickwall
Don't even get me started. Almost left Islam over all the man crazed sex heaven. My husband got mad because I started to refer to them as "whores" aka Hurs. I was just so hurt, I did not want to go to this heaven, but nor did I want to go to hell. He told me no one knows what they are for sure. As a sexually abused survivor, starting in childhood, this kind of thing can be very hurtful to say the least. brickwall
72 male virgins...lol NO WAY MAN, I want the best ones, the 72 who know what they are doing, I am not teaching anybody, where is the pleasure in that rotfl! yay
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Peace. The hoori are finally described in this post here
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604977.msg321045#msg321045
Have no fear. It is a symbolic way of saying that we shine with Light of Allah, and is for men and women equally. In the Bible, all the believers can be described as females being the bride of Christ, "I have betrothed you to one husband, that I may present a chaste virgin to Christ." (2 Corinthians 112) - and yet this is not for women only!
And yes, this is a shamless advert for my topic!
Richard