The Forgotten "Cubes" of Yemen.
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Salaam, thnaks for the apreciation brother Pazuzu sun
I just rotflwith that perfect description, i can imagine the "scenario" Now if you ask any Yemeni what is that cube doing there in the Sana'a mosque, he will most probably stare at you, wide-eyed, with a big ball of chewed "qat" bulging his mouth, and instruct you to piss off and not ask such questions. That there are "things we don't speak of"....
Truth is to be silenced trught the consumption of kilos of kat during afternoons while listening old poetry and instuments.. truth is there but just sleeping..
Well im going to read all article tonight of this old N.Geo magazine to find out anything more that suits this issue...And of course curious about the Najran kaaba and also why this "crazyness" for cubes..
Salaam and thanks again
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Salaam, thnaks for the apreciation brother Pazuzu sun
I just rotflwith that perfect description, i can imagine the "scenario" Now if you ask any Yemeni what is that cube doing there in the Sana'a mosque, he will most probably stare at you, wide-eyed, with a big ball of chewed "qat" bulging his mouth, and instruct you to piss off and not ask such questions. That there are "things we don't speak of"....
Truth is to be silenced trught the consumption of kilos of kat during afternoons while listening old poetry and instuments.. truth is there but just sleeping..
Well im going to read all article tonight of this old N.Geo magazine to find out anything more that suits this issue...And of course curious about the Najran kaaba and also why this "crazyness" for cubes..
Salaam and thanks again
Shalom aleikhom,
Its so senseless isnt it ? Does no one ever ask them about it ? Doesn't the kids atleast ask what the hell is a Kaaba doing in the center of this mosque ? This is not a critical question, it doesn't require skepticism to ask this simple question.
It would be nice to go and find some Yemeni people and interview them about it.
@Pazuzu..
I am waiting for the sample poetry... and about your works... bravo bravo bravo bravo love them. May God increase us in knowledge.
Peace
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Good day to all.
I would like you all to take a close look at the following photos
I'd like an answer to that.
Peace,
It seems that people in the mosque doesn't show any adoration towards the cube, like the one in Mecca.
I found in one of site of archnet that the cube building served as storage of waqaf documentation
Is any San'a brother wants to clarify here?
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salaam
found this http//tunisdivagation.blogspot.com/2007/06/mohamed-saws-le-topographe.html
it is in frenchProphet Muhammed seems to have given clear instructions on where and how build this mosque.
it is aligned with mekka and Dhin Montain (i don't know what does it mean)peace
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salaam
i understood
Google traduction
"Thus, the Yemeni historian Al Hafedh Arrazi (d. 1067) in his book "History of Sanaa" tells us that Prophet Muhammad (saws) ordered Ibn Wabra Youhanna to build a mosque in the Garden of Ibn Bathan Sassan (old Persian King and governor of Yemen) next to the rock located near the palace Ghamadan on the right over the mountain Dhin. The Mihrab (which indicates the direction of Mecca) should point to the mountain Dhin.
This story was also recounted in some Hadiths too."mountain Dhin is 30km far away from sanaa and 815 km from mekka.
topography shows that mosque of sanaa, mekka and mountain Dhin are perfectly aligned.
so the question is how the prophet knew that pointing to montain Dhin is exactly the same as pointing to mecca ?peace.
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scary...lol so what are you implying that the mecca of the Quran is this place in yemen? Also I which is the real mecca. and what is the proof that mecca of today is not that old? any carbon dating evidence? because documents are hardly evidence to go by as there is no way to verify. is there any type of carbon dating or somehow to see how old the structure is? Allah knows best. salam
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How about this then (speculative)
• The cubes are not called Jinn cubes for nothing
• They are scanctuaries for Jinns
• They use them like we use Mosques/Synaguogues/Temples, etc
• They are built by humans to allow Jinns to worship the One True God in common places
• They can also be used for evil worship by Devils
• The ones referred to here in Yemen were built for worship to Allah, as the Jinns are meant to follow the same system Islam
• As such they are not meant to be bowed to or venered by humans, this is idolatry
• The one in Makkah is the exact opposite, built for Satan, and prayed towards, bowed towards, venered by his unsuspecting, and probably also knowledgeable among them, followers
Finally one last thought, why do Believers rarely sight or communicate with Jinns?
most probably the Jinns are not meant to communicate with humans as an article of faith to Allah...Whereas those who communicate with humans are devils, and those who respond among humans are leading human devils who knowingly do the bidding of Satan/Lucifer...
... and Allah knows best...
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Also I which is the real mecca. and what is the proof that mecca of today is not that old? any carbon dating evidence?
Carbon dating...you think the Saudis would allow that? You think they would jeopardize the BILLIONS of Dollars they make every year from Hajj and Umrah revenues?
The evidence is found in the maps of the ancient Greek and Roman historians, geographers, as well as the traders who were very familiar with the myrrh and frankincense trade routes. These traders reached as far South as Yemen, and called it Arabia Felix (meaning Fortunate Arabia, or Optimistic Arabia) because of those riches. These traders mentioned several important cities on the trade routes, BY NAME. On their maps, you find Taime (which is Tayma'a), Lathrippa (Yathrib?), Leuce Kome (Umm Lujj), as well as Negrana (Najran) and Aden (Adan). There is also passing reference of a town called Makoraba, but this was proven to be a small town south of Tayma'a, and nowehere near Makkah.
If Makkah was such an important trade center during the pre-Christian era, it surely would have been mentioned by those historians, and would have appeared on their maps. The fact is it did not.
Even the staunchiest Arab historian will tell you that the first settlers of the desolate valley where Makkah is currently located were the Yemeni tribes of Jurhum and Khuza3a. It was THEY who built the cubical shrine, sometime during the 4th Century A.D, as a replica of similar shrines in their original homeland. The migration of these tribes northwards was in line with the same direction of migrations that had been taking place for thousands of years. The competetion over the water sources and grazing grounds, as well as the destruction or overflowing of dams were always the primary reasons for such northward migrations (This what happened to the Shebans, many centuries earlier, when the famous Ma'rib down was destroyed). Makkah never become a significant center on the trade routes, because the desert areas of central Arabia were completely bypassed later on, as 90% of all trade became MARITIME. Ships arriving from India and China would dock at the ports of Yemen (Qana and Aden), unload part of their cargo there, then continue on their way along the Red Sea towards the port town of Leuce Kome (Umm Lujj), then over land, a short distance until they reached Tayma'a. Then from there to the port of Gaza, where the goods would be carried by ships across the Meditterranean, to Europe.
The Quran tells us that Abraham MIGRATED to the area where the Bayt was located and tells us that the land around it was blessed (meaning it had riches, fruits, rivers, natural resources, etc...). People do not migrate to desert areas. Look at Makkah today, and look at the regions surrounding it in a 200 KM radius. Do you see anything green growing there? Where are the dates, olive trees, pommegranates, grapes, and grazing grounds that the Quran mentions? Nowehere to be seen. Why would Abraham mograte to such a desolate and miserable arid spot?
The valley where the Bayt is located is descriped in the Quran as "A Valley that was UNCULTIVATED". The Arabic term zar3 clearly means "PLANTINGS", and hence indicates human labor (sowing and reaping). It does not say that the place was an arid desert! It was simply a wilderness place that was never SETTLED by anyone previously. Natural flora is called "nabat", not "zar3".
Fact is, the more south you travel in Arabia, the greener the land becomes, until you reach the mountain slopes of Asir and northern Yemen. There are regions there that are more fertile, receive more rain , and have a wider abundance of natural flora than anywhere else on the penninsula. So where did Abraham migrate to?
Concerning Jinn blocks, they are scattered all over Arabia, from north to south. But the one in Makkah is famous for being covered with the YEMENI KISWAH (That's right. All the books of tradition and "history" tell us that during Muhamad's time, the black veil covering the cubical shrine came from Yemen). Ever wondered why? The simplest explanation is probably the most obvious one Yemeni pagans built that shrine from the ground up. It has nothing to do wit hAbraham whatsoever.
And the legend you hear of Abraha the Ethiopian, attacking the Kaaba with his elephants, is actually a twisted and corrupted version of the truth. YES, the Ethiopians were known to use Elephants in their wars, and YES they did attack more than one Arabian center of pagan worship, at the behest of Byzantine Rome. But these centers were in Yemen, not in central or North Arabia.
The Quran tells us that the Romans were defeated in a place referred to as "Adna-l- Ardh", meaning The NEAREST spot of land. The FM translation, however, saw it more fitting to render it as the "lowest" point of land, in order to fit the pre-conceived dogma that Palestine is the land of the prophets and that the battles took place near the Dead Sea.
Well, the fact is that "ADNA" means NEAREST, not "lowest". Its opposite is "AQSA" which means "furthest". (The near-east is called "Sharq Adna".
If Allah meant "lowest point" He would have said "Asfal", not "Adna".
Where did the Byzantine-Arab, Byzantine-Jewish, and later the Byzantine-Persian wars take place for control of the trade routes? They took place along the southern coast of Yemen, in order to control and divert the flow of goods. This area is very close to where Muhammad (P) was preaching the verse, proving that Muhammad originated in south Arabia.
Peace...
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Salaam,
A brother send me this link about Bakka
http//www.traveljournals.net/explore/morocco/map/m63297/mellah_bakka.html
And I found this when searching detail about the above link.
http//www.chinci.com/travel/pax/q/2542636/Mellah+Bakka/MA/Morocco/0/
Is this of any help???
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
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Do you mean the Biblle came from Morocco (and not Yemen)... LOL!
Salaam,
A brother send me this link about Bakka
http//www.traveljournals.net/explore/morocco/map/m63297/mellah_bakka.html
And I found this when searching detail about the above link.
http//www.chinci.com/travel/pax/q/2542636/Mellah+Bakka/MA/Morocco/0/
Is this of any help???
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
mmKhan -
lol
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Salaam to all
Ive been in Morooco and people say that in that region they used to listen PEOple barking like wolfs in the night.. they say its human who does that.. i think is berber Tradition/myth....they forget theyve got chakal around.. they prefer to say its a human being.. ok then.. >D
Slaam pr peace
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Salaam to all
Ive been in Morooco and people say that in that region they used to listen PEOple barking like wolfs in the night.. they say its human who does that.. i think is berber Tradition/myth....they forget theyve got chakal around.. they prefer to say its a human being.. ok then.. >
Slaam pr peace
Salaam,
I was born in Morocco and I am a berber, so watch your words bro >( voodoo
And yes it's a human not a jackal, do you know better then the people who live there???And yes Bakka is in Morocco, those LOL's are definitely LOL's of jealousy >(
Salaam,
Bender -
Salaam,
A brother send me this link about Bakka
http//www.traveljournals.net/explore/morocco/map/m63297/mellah_bakka.html
And I found this when searching detail about the above link.
http//www.chinci.com/travel/pax/q/2542636/Mellah+Bakka/MA/Morocco/0/
Is this of any help???
May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His true path pr
mmKhanSalaam,
bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo
bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravo bravoKeep up the good work bro
Salaam,
Bender -
Salaam,
You got angry in your previous message bro... easy!
IF and IF Bakka is in Morocco then I will be visit soon inshaAllah, get back to your home town, I will meet you there and we will go together to Bakka for research and see what Allah will show us, inshaAllah
May Allah bless you and guide us to His true path pr
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Sallaam BENDER O0 O0 chill out please..that arrogance is not proper of your country People..just to make u know im not ataking Morocoo or berber people, folklore culture whatever...so as im a descendent of Alandalus arab/berber too and im pride of it, Im from Lishbunatu , my friend and when i speak about Moroco i know also what im talking, i got many good brothers there, and for your info for me is one of best country in the world and where i would probably live for rest of my dayz....inshAllah sun
But human barking like wolfs????? & & bravo bravo.... hmm .. not a personal atack peace
and in Portugal, my country theres lot of that histories/teoryes whatever.. im not trying and i dindt mean to ofend you
and keep in mind I love Morocoo more than my country so thats why i speak...ALLAH KNOWS BEST
Salaam bro handshake peace