Why the importance of believing in One God?
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Salaam
In this day and age many profess atheism, yet still feel compelled to yield to the powers that be, much the same as believers submit to God. It is for our own benefit that we do not consider anyone as God?s equal, and it?s also important to first understand God ?s powers, and the feeling of security which comes with the realisation that none but God has power over you; that none can harm us, except by the will of Allah.
Many, with power and authority strive to take over as gods, they behave as if they possessed the capacity to change man?s destiny, and people are often ?shocked and awed?, by their demonstration of might, thus end up in submission to them. For our own sense of worth it is vital to always remember that, no matter how sofisticated the survallaince techniques used by the governments or their agents, may be and no matter how hard they try to make you subservient, none, except Allah, can determine your fate.
3929 Allah puts forth a Parable a man belonging to many partners at variance with each other, and a man belonging entirely to one master are those two equal in comparison? Praise be to Allah. but most of them have no knowledge.
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Salaam
In this day and age many profess atheism, yet still feel compelled to yield to the powers that be, much the same as believers submit to God. It is for our own benefit that we do not consider anyone as God?s equal, and it?s also important to first understand God ?s powers, and the feeling of security which comes with the realisation that none but God has power over you; that none can harm us, except by the will of Allah.
Many, with power and authority strive to take over as gods, they behave as if they possessed the capacity to change man?s destiny, and people are often ?shocked and awed?, by their demonstration of might, thus end up in submission to them. For our own sense of worth it is vital to always remember that, no matter how sofisticated the survallaince techniques used by the governments or their agents, may be and no matter how hard they try to make you subservient, none, except Allah, can determine your fate.
3929 Allah puts forth a Parable a man belonging to many partners at variance with each other, and a man belonging entirely to one master are those two equal in comparison? Praise be to Allah. but most of them have no knowledge.
PeaceBut Allah is not a god.
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This is all a piccadilly play on the external level of words and semantics... while we should focus on the deeper level of meaning, ideas and concepts.
Let's face it that many of us won't agree on the meanings of the words 'worship', 'pray' and 'God'.
It is becoming a brickwall ... some on one side, some on the other...Cheers and peace laugh
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This is all a piccadilly play on the external level of words and semantics... while we should focus on the deeper level of meaning, ideas and concepts.
Let's face it that many of us won't agree on the meanings of the words 'worship', 'pray' and 'God'.
It is becoming a brickwall ... some on one side, some on the other...Cheers and peace laugh
In my earlier post I discussed what you consider; the deeper level of meaning, ideas and concepts. so pls read that post rather then the one above which I wrote in response to a young member of this fourm.
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You are right as Allah is the God, the master, the creator and lot more, beyond our comprehension.
SalaamNo Allah is not a god at all. Not "the God". NOT GOD.
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angelNo Allah is not a god at all. Not "the God". NOT GOD.
Salaam dear Kaiokenred
It will really benefit you and everyone if you read all your posts and do bit of soul searching for a change as you are stuck on your concept of Allah and expect eveyone to agree with you and often derail threads which could lead to better understanding of the subject.
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Salaam dear Kaiokenred
It will really benefit you and everyone if you read all your posts and do bit of soul searching for a change as you are stuck on your concept of Allah and expect eveyone to agree with you and often derail threads which could lead to better understanding of the subject.
SalaamI know what I wrote, there's no need to read it again. You replied to me " God this, god that "
I couldn't care less about your non existent god. I said it many times and I'll repeat it again, Allah ( Not God ) = single consciousness that manifests all creation instant by instant from the inside outAnd I've already answered the question, maybe YOU should read all my posts here.
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This is all a piccadilly play on the external level of words and semantics... while we should focus on the deeper level of meaning, ideas and concepts.
Let's face it that many of us won't agree on the meanings of the words 'worship', 'pray' and 'God'.
It is becoming a brickwall ... some on one side, some on the other...Cheers and peace laugh
The issue with K and the SOL theologies are not simply semantics. They are antithetical to what the Quran actually teaches and says. The adherants to those theologies are teaching NOT to serve God, NOT to worship, NOT to honor Him, NOT to pray to Him, NOT to give thanks or ask for help from Him and that doing these things angers God and He will punish you for it and that this backward ideology, that cannot be found in Quran is somehow the true Islam.
I will show more in my other thread regarding SOL theologies, but as if the question is about the semantic nature of who or what we call God it is not.
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The issue with K and the SOL theologies are not simply semantics. They are antithetical to what the Quran actually teaches and says. The adherants to those theologies are teaching NOT to serve God, NOT to worship, NOT to honor Him, NOT to pray to Him, NOT to give thanks or ask for help from Him and that doing these things angers God and He will punish you for it and that this backward ideology, that cannot be found in Quran is somehow the true Islam.
I will show more in my other thread regarding SOL theologies, but as if the question is about the semantic nature of who or what we call God it is not.
There's no such thing as SOL theologies, and you're an immature jealous retard, a fool who has no capability to reason, also a blatant liar.
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There's no such thing as SOL theologies, and you're an immature jealous retard, a fool who has no capability to reason, also a blatant liar.
LoL! Like I said before, don't shoot the messenger. I am simply posting and going to post SOL's theologies and (mis)translations, from their site so if you don't like what is said, then take it up with them or maybe you should have actually studied them for yourself before zealously defending and promoting things not in the Quran.
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LoL! Like I said before, don't shoot the messenger. I am simply posting and going to post SOL's theologies and (mis)translations, from their site so if you don't like what is said, then take it up with them or maybe you should have actually studied them for yourself before zealously defending and promoting things not in the Quran.
You're simply a retard, fool without reasoning and a blatant liar just like I said. Nothing else.
Whatever you're gonna come up, it's gonna be wrong, since you're going to use traditionalist translations and will use arguments that could easily be explained if you read just a few SOL articles to their fullest. -
The issue with K and the SOL theologies are not simply semantics. They are antithetical to what the Quran actually teaches and says. The adherants to those theologies are teaching NOT to serve God, NOT to worship, NOT to honor Him, NOT to pray to Him, NOT to give thanks or ask for help from Him and that doing these things angers God and He will punish you for it and that this backward ideology, that cannot be found in Quran is somehow the true Islam.
I will show more in my other thread regarding SOL theologies, but as if the question is about the semantic nature of who or what we call God it is not.
Look he is not going to get convinced by your arguments and you are not going to get convinced by his. So what is the point in all this. I am noticing that this is getting kind of personal. We are all here to learn.
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One can sit there and semantically defend 'SOL's pov's and call them misunderstood but at the end of the day, it's quite simple. It is a deliberate refusal to acknowledge what is interchangeable (e.g. terms) and it's not even all that offensive if they are somehow daringly exchanged. To some it's like a personal affront (glove across face + pistols at dawn) if God was used in place of Allah. Come on now.
Additionally, 'getting kind of personal'? The dude called someone a retard, fool and a liar...twice? I appreciate diplomacy and also the preference for addressing one's post to the more reasonable of the people involved in the skirmish (least likely to get called a retard in return) but please...I don't see what in Mr.Q's post above was 'personal' towards the other. Yes, we are all here to learn and discussing/debating/arguing even passionately about ideas and concepts is really okay, it's alright to do that on this forum here. What is not alright is calling someone a retard, a fool and a liar and consistently berating people for not getting it. That stops here.
Peace.
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Look he is not going to get convinced by your arguments and you are not going to get convinced by his. So what is the point in all this. I am noticing that this is getting kind of personal. We are all here to learn.
I am not trying to convince him of anything, nor anyone else for that matter. Nobody has to agree with me on anything. I am simply putting forth my arguments based on the Quran and exposing what I see as serious errors and flaws in SOL's theologies and reasonings.
There are others who read these threads, who never post anything, yet will get to hear or see a different viewpoint and then they can decide what they believe or don't and what they follow or don't. I believe a major part of the learning process is counter arguments, different viewpoints and being able to articulate your positions, with Quranic support, when questioned about them. When everything is laid bare, then people can freely figure out where they stand on any particular issue, without personal harassment or insult.
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Peace be upon you guys as well,
well, There is only One God, because God himself kind of spells it out for us. If there were multple gods, they would dispute and fight for supremacy (2391)
Moreover,
"He presents to you an example from yourselves. Do you ever elevate your servants or subordinates to the level where they rival you, and to the point that you pay them as much allegiance as is being paid to you? We thus explain the revelations for people who understand. (302would God give his kingship to others, and fear them as he fears himself?
Glorified be God the Lord of the 7 universes, The One, The Supreme -
Peace Jafar
Well, Kaiokenred would be one of the youngest active members of the forum. Bravo to you Kaiokenred.
At least someone would be searching for God at such a young age......I wasn't
May God Almighty help you.Moderators Do not discourage him. Do not evict him. What do you expect from a young kid?
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Bravo to all the young members active or inactive who are searching for God or who is not god. My daughter was 12 when she signed up here. No hurrahs for those who can't follow the house rules even after repeated warnings however. If you aren't old enough to understand, respect and follow the Forum Rules, you shouldn't be posting.
We've been unusually lenient throughout based on the age despite repeated complaints over the posting span...but there is a limit, and kids (or adults) need to learn, and know what is acceptable and what isn't. What I expect from a young kid is precisely that to learn the limits and behaviour (the basics) required to operate civilly in a social arena before wrestling with 'higher' concepts. We say this because we care.