No Record of the city of Mecca before 4th Century AD.
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Mr raging,
I will not waste time with an arrogant fool who falsely accuses people of slander and who doesn't have the mental capacity for studying or debating. Also thank you for reposting my posts. It gives others the opportunity to see why I believe Jerusalem is the Qibla and the proper place for pilgrimage . Keep it up rotfl
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Mr raging,
I will not waste time with an arrogant fool who falsely accuses people of slander and who doesn't have the mental capacity for studying or debating. Also thank you for reposting my posts. It gives others the opportunity to see why I believe Jerusalem is the Qibla and the proper place for pilgrimage . Keep it up rotfl
Let those who come behind read and study. It is up to Allah to guide, and He guides whom He wills. )
Again, I'm not here to guide. My only obligation is to remind and warn. But you cannot say you were not warned."O believers, let not any people scoff at another people who may be better than they; neither let women scoff at women who may be better than themselves. And find not fault with one another, neither revile one another by nicknames. An evil name is ungodliness after belief. And whoso repents not, those -- they are the evildoers." Surah 4911
God wants us to use our brains and not blindly follow what we do not know. It is foolish to blindly believe others without properly doing all the necessary research ourselves. God wants us to think. God loves the thinkers.
Who is using sources from enemies of Al-Islam, instead of using the Quran to verify the Truth?
You cannot even point out Masjid Al-Haram or Masjid Al-Aqsa, so why do you follow what you do not know?Also have you forgotten that you yourself have used countless of links from the Internet for your own ?proofs?. What sort of hypocrisy is this to question me about why am I searching the internet? hmm
Again, who is using sources from enemies of Al-Islam, instead of using the Quran to verify the Truth? I do not take the enemies of Al-Islam as friends or guardians.
Everything I have brought is verified by the Quran, as the Quran is the only source of knowledge to uphold. As you will not take the Quran alone as a source of guidance, I have brought Internet links to show that the Quran does in fact verify the Truth, and it is still found in the world today - even though the satans seek to hide it.You cannot bring anything to refute the Truth found in Quran.
In the End, we will all know who is rightly guided, and who was led astray.
Peace. )
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Bro Ayman might know a little about this subject.
Thank you Wakas for the tip. Yesterday i read an article written by him http//free-minds.org/ayman . As I had believed for a very long time the same nonsense that happened to Christianity happened to Islam. Islamic practices have been infiltrated and distorted in every sector . Which is why it is important to critically investigate every practice of Islam and not to take things to lightly.
Peace,
Kevin D. Cooper
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It is not surprise for me that no record of the city of Mecca before 4th Century AD. The city mentioned in Quran is "Bacca". Fact is fact, no matter who reveal it.
Those who listen to the Word, and follow the best. Those are the ones whom Allah has guided, and those are the ones endued with understanding.
Peace.
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All things testify to the supreme truth of ALLAH.
If an atheist goes out to try to disprove ALLAH they will collect a set of evident truths against the misconceptions of ALLAH. Those very same evident truths will prove ALLAH's word to be correct (e.g. evolution).
Total catch 22, for truth itself can never be again rendered false.
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I have found this text by Patricia Crone
http//www.opendemocracy.net/faith-europe_islam/mohammed_3866.jsp
The title isWhat do we actually know about Mohamed?
I was not expecting much because of other thing I found in the internet about the writer, which probbly were not objective with her or hislam or the Prophet.
However this test to me seems not too bad. In fact I find it hopeful. It points to something I have been suspecting all the time that there is A LOOOOOOT to be done in archeology, because up till now, Arabia in the part is practically virgin, but what is being uncovered without much exploration turns out to be very promising that Arabia in that part was not the void it is represented to be.
Of course, those who do not believe that the Qur'an is a revelation as much as anything can be a revelation, will always pretend that the Qur'an consists of borrowings from Christian and Jewish tradition, as if those were better guaranty than the Qur'an, but I do not see from facts coming to life through real science any threat to the "reputation" of the Qur'an. Obviously the Qur'an itself gurantees itself for whoever finds it truthful.
Salaam
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The fact that the writer of the article mntioned in the first message of the thread is a Christian means nothing bad or good, but the institution he writes for, I have checked, is a professional Muslim basher under the guise of science and enlightement of Muslims.
Here what it says under their heading "Bible"
The Qur?an or the Bible
The Qur?an repeats the mythology in vogue at the time of Mohammed. His thoughts reflect ancient teachings about the earth, the sun and the creation. These teachings can be traced in the well-known mythology of the people of the middle and far East.
So, I sam sorry for Rifaat Amari, but he is a pawn or an emplyee of that institution and not a desinterested person, whose judgement, as it is, would deserve credibility, without very good and verifiable proof of what is attempted to proove with his article.
Salaam
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Absence of evidence doesn't mean evidence of absence.
