Holy Prophet
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Dear pakki wilayti maam, and yarra, menu patha eh ke you are a colorful kuri! However, my urdu/hindi is quite weak and my punjabi is bordering non-existent. It typically gets pulled out of the drawer for emergency use. laugh
I used to have my tea pure style... no chini, no dudh.... but then I got introduced and accustomed to dudh patti, and haven't been able to break loose ever since...
Cheers sun
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Yarra, I feel like I have hijacked this thread!
Janaab, aapko kehse patha hain ke mein ek colourful kuri hoon? Is baat ka toh mujhe bhi khabar nahin tha!
I have never been a fan of Pakistani tea. I like good old Yorkshire tea. Actually, I could do with a cuppa right now and a chocolate biscuit! Care to join me? You bring the samoseh.
I'll make the chutney!My mum would slap me if she found out I called a boy "yarra". She has just got used to me calling my brother and my cousins that. I am the only girl in the clan so I don't see why everyone else can go around calling each other "yarra" and I can't!
By the way, the most important question Aap kis gaon se hain?
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Yes, you have chaijacked the thread, but that's a lovely intermission in all the holiness.
I'll bring alu wale samose and jaleebi, and I want the chutney to be of the pudine wale sort!
Mera gaon is not in the subcontinent, but I have had the privilege to live there for some time... a wonderful experience that has added color to my life. There are many totally different worlds in this world, and yet people are all the same - amazing! Aur aapka 'ranga rang kuri'-ness ke bare mein.. it's just something that one can sense... from the posts, from the overall vibration, from the purani khoi-hui tasveer that was replaced by the naya funpara laugh . Aur mujhe malum hai that you too know about being ranga rang. -
Yarra, I wasn't being serious about the "gaon"-I meant where are you from!
I haven't been to India, insh'Allah, I will go one day. When I do go, I will definitely be there for a few months. I might even throw in a trip to Bangladesh when I'm there too! But I went to Pakistan about four years ago and it was wonderful. I fell in love with the place. I had gone there almost two decades earlier and had hated it, but I really learned a lot about life whilst there-the hardships people face, happiness, survival, humanity, inhumanity, everything across the board, and I keep it in my heart. I used to think I was grateful to God, but after going there, I truly became grateful to God! Whereabouts did you go?
And for someone who described their Urdu as "weak"-your Urdu is fantastic!
And yes, I am glad you appreciate my artistic talent!
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Yaaaar, the matter of the gaon can be a serious one!... many times a very central issue to people... as I have come to learn. I'm not from west, but rather north, as I insist in calling it. I flatly refuse to be from west. To be more precise, and to ease your curiosity ), my dear watan is Sweden.... but I now see myself as a desi-whatever-swede misfit. Sometimes I feel I don't fit in anywhere.... and I'm not saying the problem lies in me. It just is. I carry traits from both the cold north and the warm southeast. I'm a hopeless mix, and I love it. I try to nurture the best traits from each temperament.... I'm not sure whether I'm successful or not, but I cherish the opportunity.
I was living in Rawalpindi/Islamabad and in Lahore, and got a chance to mix with all sorts of people, from all walks of life, the whole spectrum, and many different nationalities as well. It was a very valuable time as it enabled me to see myself and my background... something everyone should do... but you cannot unless you get out of your own cultural setting, whether locally or globally. Pakistan can be a heaven on earth, if people would just stop f*****g it up. To aapka gaon kidher hai? Where did you visit four yrs back?
My urdu comes across as fantastic-in-relation-to-weak, because I'm learning new words just to post to you! I'm cheating. I'm adding the new words to my humble and basic knowledge of the language... and besides, I love urdu... I just haven't payed due attention to it... I have neglected it, leaving it in it's infancy... but I do love it... it's beautiful, and it's actually not that difficult.
Cheers
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Yarra, it doesn't make a difference to me which gaon you're from dude. However, I think more central to the inquisition is how many cows and chickens your great great great great great grandfather owned in comparison to mine!
Yes, I know what you mean about the "identity" thing, as I'll term it. My parents are Pakistani (Punjabi) with bit of Indian Gujerati thrown in. I was born in England and have always lived here. However, I am English, but I'm not English and I am Pakistani but I'm not Pakistani, and sometimes I'm even Indian. (I hope the Indian/ Pakistani security services aren't privy to this website!) I would say, along with others, I am an amalgamation of sorts. In this global era, we're all so many things. I would say I'm a mixture of things because although I may come from a certain ethnic group, my influences, as most people's these days, reach far beyond the parameters of where we are physically located. Why would I choose to limit myself in terms of culture and world experience, why would anybody. I could a bit Italian, a little bit of Chinese, a mish mash of Arab with a sprinkle of Persian.
Oh, Rawalpindi, Islamabad. Oh, the trips I had, cruising down Airport Road and Murree Road, going down to Satellite Town, climbing up Margalla Hills to go to The Monal. I swear I was in Heaven. Surely, Heaven is Pakistan! I also stayed in Lahore too. I love Lahore. The major cities each have such different feel to them. Lahore tugs at my aristic soul. Islamabad, I do like, but I would say is much more pretentious. Unfortuately, I didn't get to go to Karachi this time around, I had the opportunity of going for the day, which I thought was a little pointless. I hated it when I went as a child, but I think more than anything, it was a huge culture shock, being in a big metropolis, for a simple little village girl, from Yorkshire, like me. Insh'Allah, next time. Yes, it's interesting that you mention the diversity of Pakistan. It is so very diverse and so welcoming. Ever since going, I have been telling friends and acquaintances to go there. I should work for Pakistan's Tourist Board. I've even offered them to come with me and stay in one of my houses, but with these attacks happening left right and centre, they refuse to come-they would rather go to India!
I love Urdu poetry. If you want any suggested reading, give me a shout and I will write you a list!
The dude who started this thread isn't going to be happy that his thread has been infiltrated and ruined by confused wannbe Pakistani pseudo-nationalists!
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Norway is much more mountainous so that's a good bet when going skiing. Sweden is only good for skiing in the mountain areas that border Norway... and that too in the winter. Personally I prefer summer activities over winter ones. I remember the lovely and steep hike of 3hrs, from Islamabad "ground level" up to the top of Margalla hills where the BBQ restaurant is. Such lovely scenery and cool n pleasant temperatures in summer.
I prefer 'gora' to 'root vegetable', although that's a bit stupid too laugh
Do you by any chance have some "beginner's" poetry (whatever that is)?... specifically I mean pieces that are not too lengthy. I will afterall have to learn the new words, expressions and constructions, put it together in my mind and savour n enjoy them.
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Salaam Zulf,
I hope you are well. You have got me a little nostalgic about Pakistan now! I've been saying for the past three years that I want to go back, but I haven't done it as yet.
Anyhow, I am not particularly into winter sports or anything, but when I was younger, I always imagined I would go skiiing when I was older. Now, that I am older, I realised I better actually start doing all those things on my "To Do" list before it's too late!
Zulf, do you mean "gora" or "ghora"?
Beginner's poetry, I'm sure I can try to do a search on Google because I got into reading classical Urdu poetry after reading a history of the Urdu language. So, I had learned basic Urdu when I was younger and I went straight onto the hardcore stuff. Would you want it in Latin script or nastlik?
We have so hijacked this thread.
Rangrez.