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Is urine, blood, sperm, fart is pure according to Quran ?

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    SearchingGod
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    Salam all
    I have another question about the verse

    O you who believe, if you rise to hold the contact prayer, then wash your faces and your hands up to the elbows, and wipe your heads and your feet to the ankles; and if you have had intercourse, then you shall bathe. And if you are ill, or traveling, or you have excreted feces, or you have had sexual contact with the women, and you cannot not find water, then you shall select from the clean soil; you shall wipe your faces and your hands with it. God does not want to place any hardship on you, but He wants to cleanse you and to complete His blessings upon you that you may be thankful.

    Sorry if I'm out of topic. Read the highlighted part. Allah says 'if you touch the womens= sexual contact. (arabic clear nisaa) Why does not he say the same for the women? i.e. 'if you have touched the men? God used his words clearly, as this would mean that God specifically speaks to the men here. This would confirm the interpretation of Al salat= a meeting / session twice a day .
    Thanks for your thoughts on this
    Peace

    The verse begins with O you who believe (men and women). It is not the case here that only men are believers and not women. Then everthing that follows O you who believe concerns obviously the believers (men and women).

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      savage_carrot
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      How about if animal faeces may already be in that soil, so possible cause of diseases to the person, certain tiny creatures can dig into your soft skin aswell - those that may be in the soil! No?
      Welcome back mz/simple. I thought the it must mean something else entirely based on "i see something no one else sees/sixth sense/i am pioneer/i am out of the box/ i am legion" whimsy was familiar. And indeed, at least the user names are legion if nothing else.

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        Student_of_Allah
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        I suppose from your view point , we do then need the Hadith's to explain what the quran means.

        Pitty the Hadith doesn't mention clean soil.

        peace

        Shalom Aleikhem,

        GOD !!! lol... no ...definitly NOT !!

        I was just pointing out the hadith to show the absurdity of it. You need odd number of stones to wipe you butt...otherwise the sky daddy is angry P

        Got my point ? The hadith was presented as a joke, not for any form of guidance.

        Peace
        ----------- Student of Allah

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          good_logic
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          Peace Student of Allah.

          You better be careful. I fall into that trap many times. You joke with them and they take you seriously. Then when you are serious and they take it as a joke!

          Peace.

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            Shalom Aleikhem,

            GOD !!! lol... no ...definitly NOT !!

            I was just pointing out the hadith to show the absurdity of it. You need odd number of stones to wipe you butt...otherwise the sky daddy is angry P

            Got my point ? The hadith was presented as a joke, not for any form of guidance.

            Peace
            ----------- Student of Allah

            Thanks .

            or you have had sexual contact with the women, and you cannot not find water, then you shall select from the clean soil..

            Having a sexual relation with a woman and wiping the penus with clean soil - wouldn't that stick to it rather then cleaning off the glue?

            Anybody understand this?

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              youssef4342
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              Peace be with you guys as well.

              soil is not like toilet paper.
              There might be some wisdom behind clean soil, through any kind of chemical/bacteria/virus in the ground, and sooner or later, it some other organism may find a way to break it down, this is along the lines of conjecture, but it would make sense to me
              Thus, the commandment for soil.

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                mirjamnur
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                Salam searchingGod

                The verse begins with O you who believe (men and women). It is not the case here that only men are believers and not women. Then everthing that follows O you who believe concerns obviously the believers (men and women).

                yes it is already clear that the verse appeals to both sexes. So yet my question Why are the second part of the verse mentions only women? "if you have touched the women," and not"if you have touched your partner". Do you understand what I mean?
                Thank you again. peace peace

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                  Student_of_Allah
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                  Shalom Aleikhem,

                  Peace Student of Allah.

                  You better be careful. I fall into that trap many times. You joke with them and they take you seriously. Then when you are serious and they take it as a joke!

                  Peace.

                  hypno hypno hypno hypno

                  I just hope that all this time my blogs were not being read as theological jokes &

                  Peace
                  -------------- Student of Allah

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                    good_logic
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                    Peace Student of Allah.

                    I read some of your blogs. There is some good material in there. It will be taken seriously by those who seek the truth.

                    Well done.
                    Peace

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                      Student_of_Allah
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                      Peace Student of Allah.

                      I read some of your blogs. There is some good material in there. It will be taken seriously by those who seek the truth.

                      Well done.
                      Peace

                      Shalom Aleikhem,

                      Thanks. If you point out the bad ones, probably I will have the opportunity to improve. )

                      Peace
                      ---------- Student of Allah

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                        good_logic
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                        Peace Student of Allah.

                        I did not see any bad ones.

                        Carry on with your loyalty to your Lord. HE will guide and correct when we err.

                        Sorry others for going off the topic.
                        Peace.

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