I renounced my faith in the divinity of the Qur'an today
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But now that nagging skepticism just WON'T go away! It simply won't leave me and allow me to practice Islam in peace! Ramadan is in 3 days. I was excited for Ramadan this year but now I don't even know if I want to do it anymore.
I just don't know anymore!
Brother.. it seems you are in the right direction but you just dont realize it, keep searching and never give up brother, God wants to see how hard your effort is and how sincere you are, eventually if you keep your searching Allah might help you shed the light, insyaAllah.
Many people at a time been in the same situation like you, I was there too, so I know.
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Hello @Faithful Jinn, here is an interesting and amusing lecture in which some of your ideas from your last post, and some of your new conclusions are developed. It is about oneness of God and our relationship with monotheism, and how do we fully develop our potentials.
If you have time watch it till the end.
Equally I recommend it to others as well, since it's both funny and inspiring sun
http//videos.shalomtv.com/video/joy-judaism-rabbi-david-aaron-dec-15-2007
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Can I trust my own mind to confirm the existence of God?
I was excited for Ramadan this year but now I don't even know if I want to do it anymore.
good luck with confirming the existence of God. when you do, please do come back from the dead and let us know....
don't know why everyone makes a big deal about ramadan. if you don't go without food/water from sunrise to sunset - what's the big deal? and is that what ramadan is all about in the first place?
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It's about submission, reflection, prayer, and purity as well. While Islam has many rituals, the rituals symbolize certain ideals.
Fasting is something all the prophets have done. The Qur'an confirms that Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad all fasted for 40 days at some point if I recall correctly.
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It's about submission, reflection, prayer, and purity as well. While Islam has many rituals, the rituals symbolize certain ideals.
Really? or is it that people have made Islam to have many rituals?
Fasting is something all the prophets have done. The Qur'an confirms that Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad all fasted for 40 days at some point if I recall correctly.
True fasting is mentioned in the Koran but going without food and water from sunrise to sunset for 40 days? hmmm......
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What is true fasting to you?
You think they went 40 days without food or water?
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I also did the Ramadan fast properly, last year, as taught by Masjid Tuscon website i.e. Dr. Rashad Khalifa.
This year I think I am not going to do it that traditional way, because I read some different opinions about both the calendar and Ramadan in this Forum. -\
Presently I am confused about that matter. Didn't even get to that level to think about the Hajj. ???
confused
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I also did the Ramadan fast properly, last year, as taught by Masjid Tuscon website i.e. Dr. Rashad Khalifa.
This year I think I am not going to do it that traditional way, because I read some different opinions about both the calendar and Ramadan in this Forum. -\
Presently I am confused about that matter. Didn't even get to that level to think about the Hajj. ???
confused
Selam GODsubmitter ),
I feel your thoughts, to be honest this will be my first time doing Ramazan. I did promise myself though that if i'm unbearably starving to death then i'll eat a small snack to keep my body physically alive LOL xD. And hajj? Well I recommend the pilgrimage/feast/debate discussion in the Hajj section of the website where Ayman and Wakas are posting some VERY good points ). It should be quite obviously though by reading the Quran and the chapter Al-Hajj that what is in Mecca does not meet Quranic requirements of hajj ). But thats another story for another day ).
Also @ faithful-jinn,
Firstly selam lol,
Secondly, sometimes I think the exact same way. I feel that I have some form of 'truth' revealed to me and my conscience is at peace and harmony with the rest of myself... To be perfectly honest? I would take it as a possible sign. That's some serious mind-concuction of the story of life if it wasn't atleast SOME form of revealed truth. Noone knows what will happen on JD except Allah... but I too have had the same thoughts... us being celestial energies floating through other parts of matter possibly in another dimension. But hey, knowledge is the key to unlocking the heart of the human mind no? Keep reading the Quran (the free-minds Quran or the Quran from OurBeacon.com as I find them translated well) ).
Hope you find peace within yourself Faithful-Jinn, I've been there and trust me, I also find it difficult sometimes, but talk/call-out to God ).
Peace ) peace
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What is true fasting to you?
You think they went 40 days without food or water?
fasting to me is what God said
2183 O you who believe, fasting has been decreed for you as it was decreed for those before you, perhaps you may be righteous.
Asad translated it as 'remaining conscious of God".
the next verse, states to fast certain number of days. Doesn't say 30 days, 40 days....
and God says if you find it difficult to fast then feed the needy. God makes it clear he wishes ease not hardship.And that's all there is to it. Just a few verses in the Koran where God talks about fasting and making it clear why he enjoined fasting. God doesn't make a big deal. Didn't make it a symbol or ritual or tradition as people have made it to be. God sure didn't say to be a muslim, you have to fast for 30 days in the month of Ramadan. God didn't say that fasting is a test of your faith or whatever.
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Fasting has a tendency to give you more energy to the mind, letting you feel more pure in mind and body, and lets you think more clearly and makes it easier to go 'deeper' into spiritual matters. At least for me, and after the first initial days when the body gets used to the change.
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When things get complicated, and we get confused, and frustrated... it's better to just relax, ask/pray for insight and understanding, and just wait... and not rush or push. Just leave everything. Also when we get frustrated and confused in trying to understand the quran... we should relax. Confusion arises from us being mixed up from all sorts of influences and faulty understanding. Truth is never causing confusion. There is no need to keep the quran as the foundation or center of one's faith or belief or whatever you call it. It's better to go inside yourself and pray to your creator, without preconceived ideas and conditions. Just ask for better understanding and to be shown the truth, whatever it may be. And we should ask to be able to handle it, and to love it. What's not to love about truth? We can return to the quran later, with better understanding. One should not underestimate the quran.
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peace
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- Fasting has a tendency to give you more energy to the mind, letting you feel more pure in mind and body, and lets you think more clearly and makes it easier to go 'deeper' into spiritual matters. At least for me, and after the first initial days when the body gets used to the change.
going without food, gives me a headache. makes me tired. can't focus/concentrate. sure can't think straight. and physically, feel sick. not being able to fast can also lead one to feel humble, grateful and appreciative.
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I tend to agree with the great sage Maimonides (who wrote almost all his works in Arabic and knew Quran thru and thru) that God (Jews) created Christianity and Islam to bring low, primitive, illiterate people to the idea of God.
Is this dude for real?
Christianity and islam created for low, primitive, illiterate people?
I mean, seriously?
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Is this dude for real?
Christianity and islam created for low, primitive, illiterate people?
I mean, seriously?
I just realized it... perhaps it's true...
Christianity and Islam was created for low, primitive people BY another low, primitive people who were trying to take advantage of their naivety and ignorance rotfl rotfl
And Jesus didn't invented Christianity, it was a bunch of clerics who did that centuries after he died , in similar manner as Muhammad didn't invented Islam, it was a bunch of clerics who did that centuries after he died..
Salam / Peace
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I just realized it... perhaps it's true...
Christianity and Islam was created for low, primitive people BY another low, primitive people who were trying to take advantage of their naivety and ignorance rotfl rotfl
And Jesus didn't invented Christianity, it was a bunch of clerics who did that centuries after he died , in similar manner as Muhammad didn't invented Islam, it was a bunch of clerics who did that centuries after he died..
Salam / Peace
This is for you Jafar. Substitute Jesus for whoever you want.
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I believe in the Holly Quran from A-Z. We are all so different and that is the main reason i come here. To read and see all the different thoughts. I may or may not agree with some but i do respect all. There is wisdom in all of Allah?s creations. We all interpret everything so different, our thought processes are as different as or bodies chemical balances or in balances.
The Holly Quran has scientific evidence in it and its not hidden like a magic number 19,
Im talking about embryology, atoms and so on and so forth.
The other thing is that it has remained the same since the first Holly Quran was written.There is a reason why that islam is the fastest growing religion today. The Holly Quran has a universal truth with in it, then people get transported to hadith north-korea style. I hope the truth goes viral!
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There is a reason why that islam is the fastest growing religion today.
Better cross check your source for that..
As they always change the statement in accordance to season...
If the mode is "Go people! Sell! Sell! Sell! Expand! Expand! Gain more customers believers"
They say what you said above..Yet if the mode is "Our bottom line is not good... gain more $$$ from existing customers believers"..
Then they will say "Our competitor (can be either Christians, Shiites, Catholics or others but usually it's Christians) started to gain market share is turning our people into a 'murtad', our source of money religion is at threat, support us people! donate all of your $$$ to us in the way of Allah! for the religion of Allah! Otherwise in X years all of our people will be a murtad.. (apostate)".Salam / Peace
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I just realized it... perhaps it's true...
Christianity and Islam was created for low, primitive people BY another low, primitive people who were trying to take advantage of their naivety and ignorance rotfl rotfl
And Jesus didn't invented Christianity, it was a bunch of clerics who did that centuries after he died , in similar manner as Muhammad didn't invented Islam, it was a bunch of clerics who did that centuries after he died..
Salam / Peace
When thinking about it it's not so far fetched indeed... This maimonides is true.
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Those with a rational bent of mind in overdrive, may find some comfort in reading G A Parwez's Exposition of the Qur'an which is way off the beaten track.
Author of many books including "Islam, a challenge to Religon" he has been responsible in Indo Pak to wake people up to a reading of the Qur'an without reading secondary sources into it.
http//www.tolueislam.org/Parwez/expo/exposition.htm
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Fasting has a tendency to give you more energy to the mind, letting you feel more pure in mind and body, and lets you think more clearly and makes it easier to go 'deeper' into spiritual matters. At least for me, and after the first initial days when the body gets used to the change.
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When things get complicated, and we get confused, and frustrated... it's better to just relax, ask/pray for insight and understanding, and just wait... and not rush or push. Just leave everything. Also when we get frustrated and confused in trying to understand the quran... we should relax. Confusion arises from us being mixed up from all sorts of influences and faulty understanding. Truth is never causing confusion. There is no need to keep the quran as the foundation or center of one's faith or belief or whatever you call it. It's better to go inside yourself and pray to your creator, without preconceived ideas and conditions. Just ask for better understanding and to be shown the truth, whatever it may be. And we should ask to be able to handle it, and to love it. What's not to love about truth? We can return to the quran later, with better understanding. One should not underestimate the quran.
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peace
That, Zulf was a good post. We all have our questions and doubts. We also get clarity with confusion.
We all have our ups and downs; those who don't are the dead in graves!!
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