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Why did God create us?

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    ungka
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    the topic title gives me more questions (provided 'us' you mean human)
    sorry i have no anwers. just more question and a crap thinkin of mine.

    why god created plants and animal?
    i once heard a simple answer is for the ecology/for us human to eat /etc.
    well looks like animals and plants are not the main actor.

    i guess it's self centric, i mean we're thinking about the universe thru our own lenses
    like human is the only focus of god's creation. while maybe we're not.
    like SoA said.. perhaps we're just an avoidable by-product of the universe.

    so like most of us think that animal has their own purpose, so does human.
    perhaps human existance is not so on focus like how most people think animals and plants are.
    maybe humans are just like animal and plants. created to support something bigger. we're not the main charachter perhaps.
    (well i take human > animals & plants, base on the common-minded people think.) <-- not generalizing

    yes we tend to think that way due to we've been told about our task. being khalifah of the earth. from the book.
    but again the other being (animal & plant, planet, water, etc) might have their own task also that we might not know.
    and to them they are the main character. perhaps each creation feels that way and improve themselves

    all summed up to the whole progress of the universe towards idk...

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      Peace good logic,

      Also, most sunnis claim or think that believers are the "slaves" of God, which is not correct.

      Because the Arabic word "qul" does not mean slave. It means someone who willingly submits knowing this will benefit him and lead to happiness. Not because he is forced against his will.

      "qul"!

      "abd"

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        Mikhail_Matin
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        Peace .
        Let me put it another way.

        GOD does not want us to worship HIM. HE does not want us to do anything for HIM.

        Peace.

        Hi good logic. Peace to you and all.

        If God " does not want us to do anything for HIM", then what is the purpose of our creation and existence? If he made us to be just part of a bigger picture why are there laws to follow with the promise of Heaven and Hell? 😃

        And to all who posted. Thank you for the replies. Very exciting and interesting to read all of them 😃

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          good_logic
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          Peace Mikhail Matin.

          I believe the purpose of this life is to redeem ourselves back to the creator. Hence the service/ following the law or what you called "Worship"is for our benefit.

          The choice is" GOD"= Heaven or " Not GOD"= Hell ?

          That is my understanding.
          Peace.

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            Mikhail_Matin
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            Peace Mikhail Matin.

            I believe the purpose of this life is to redeem ourselves back to the creator. Hence the service/ following the law or what you called "Worship"is for our benefit.

            The choice is" GOD"= Heaven or " Not GOD"= Hell ?

            That is my understanding.
            Peace.

            And where do you derive this understanding from?

            From good logic or the Quran? 😃

            So you are saying First God do not want us to do anything. Second Our purpose is to redeem ourselves by following the laws that God made. Who sets those purpose? You or God?

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              Recluse
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              Peace .
              Let me put it another way.

              GOD does not want us to worship HIM. HE does not want us to do anything for HIM.

              Peace.

              I don't know if that's accurate, sounds a bit extreme.

              Peace

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                Recluse
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                "qul"!

                "abd"

                Could you elaborate? We say kul (qul) in Turkey.

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                  good_logic
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                  Peace Mikhail Matin.

                  GOD does not need our Service/ worship ... We do that for our benefit, if we choose to.

                  I got the purpose of our life from Koran.

                  7172 Recall ( There is a barrier between this life and ?other life? hence the reminder!) that your Lord summoned all the descendants of Adam ( Humans, prior to this life and creation of this universe) and had them bear witness for themselves ( Yes each and every individual!)? am I not your Lord?? ( One ruler, One authority, One system so that we do not divide ourselves into factions/tribes?) They all said? Yes we bear witness? ( You will remember this covenant on the day of judgement?) thus you cannot say on the day of Resurrection? We were not aware of this.?

                  ( You are responsible and accountable! this life is A test of loyalty to GOD your creator? The choice is Loyal to GOD or Loyal to "Other than GOD".)

                  7174 We thus explain the revelations ( To remind the humans!) to enable the people to redeem themselves.?

                  Peace.

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                    Mikhail_Matin
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                    Peace Mikhail Matin.

                    GOD does not need our Service/ worship ... We do that for our benefit, if we choose to.

                    I got the purpose of our life from Koran.

                    7172 Recall ( There is a barrier between this life and ?other life? hence the reminder!) that your Lord summoned all the descendants of Adam ( Humans, prior to this life and creation of this universe) and had them bear witness for themselves ( Yes each and every individual!)? am I not your Lord?? ( One ruler, One authority, One system so that we do not divide ourselves into factions/tribes?) They all said? Yes we bear witness? ( You will remember this covenant on the day of judgement?) thus you cannot say on the day of Resurrection? We were not aware of this.?

                    ( You are responsible and accountable! this life is A test of loyalty to GOD your creator? The choice is Loyal to GOD or Loyal to "Other than GOD".)

                    7174 We thus explain the revelations ( To remind the humans!) to enable the people to redeem themselves.?

                    Peace.

                    I shall leave this thread because this is not going anywhere. Peace to all. Love you guys 😃

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                      youssef4342
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                      Please see
                      The Original purpose of our creation?
                      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603282.0

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                        Abaddon
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                        to test ones true nature.

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