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    English / French / Latin / / Arabic Root Arabic Prononciation Comment

    capitalisme / / kabd / kabadah / kabd mean hold tight , 967 The hypocrite males and the hypocrite females, they are to each other. They order vice and prohibit good, and they close their hands.) mean they keep money in their pockets and they do not spend the extra for the needy and the poor ( ) .
    . .

    empire / emperor / emarah / amer emarah in Arabic is a territory ruled by a amer ( prince) , in the arabic tangue the word amer simply mean someone who is responsible for el Amer " the order " or " the command " in this command or order is under consultancy between the whole community or their representatives , the concept of "Amer" becoming a prince is developed during the Omayyad Abbasid era .
    459 O you who believe, obey God and obey the messenger and those in authority among you ( ouly al amer / Emperors ). But if you dispute in any matter, then you shall refer it to God and His messenger if you believe in God and the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for knowing.

    Manage / management / manager / / / nahaja / nahj / manhaj / menhaj "nahaja" mean to show me the road or the path / "menhaj" mean the way or the structure or the manner ( ) . . . . . 548 And We have sent down to you the Book with the truth, authenticating what is between your hands of the Book and superseding it. So judge between them by what God has sent down, and do not follow their desires from what has come to you of the truth. For each of you We have made laws, and a structure.(menhaja / / structure ).

    straight / street / / sart / seratt / satr "satr " mean to write in dialect mean straight line , "seratt " mean the parth or the road or the way . ( ) . ( ) .
    16 Guide us to the straight path.

    History/ story / Histoire / / assater / satara / mastour "satara " mean write , " assater " mean the stories and telling of the past. ( ) . . . 681 N, the pen, and what they write "yastoroun". . 255 And they said "Fictional tales "assater"of old! He wrote them down while they were being dictated to him morning and evening."

    Police / politics / / bals / abliss / moblissoun "bls " mean confined / restricted in movement. 4375 It will not be removed from them; they will be confined therein. . Abliss is the personified name of "satan / alchaytan /. 234 And We said to the angels "Yield to Adam," so they yielded except for "Abliss " , he refused and became arrogant, and became of the rejecters. " . .
    ( ) .
    . .

    gendarmes/ gendarmerie / jond / jonoud "jond " jound mean military forces .3628 And We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the heaven; for there was no need to send them down.. . ( ) . . please note that the english and the arabic word gendarmey/ jound / does conatin the word" jinn " .

    language/ langue / logo / logic / / lagha / laghw / loghah "laghw" mean a not valuable speech not authentic , loghah mean language in modern arabic but in the original arabic is not considered as a language its a" tangue /lissan " the different between "lissan / tangue " and " language / loghah " is that language is based under no phonetic rules , "lissan tongue
    / " is based through phonetic orders and phonetic meanings structured in a objective order.

    ...to be continued ...

    This is a proof th

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      This is a proof th

      i saw some of your etymology studies , well done.

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        English / French / Latin / / Arabic Root Arabic Prononciation Comment

        Think / thinking / / than / althan / yathonoun "than" mean thinking or thought or conceive .

        guide / guideance / / kod / kawad / kaied / "kod" some of the using of this word mean to guide , "kaied " is a leader of community a sort of guide .( ) . . . . . . .

        observe / observation / / basar / absara / absar "absara " mean to see things deeply in your heart , "basar" mean sight . 2096 He said "I noticed (basart)what they did not notice, so I took a handful from where the messenger was standing, and I cast it in. This is what my soul inspired me to do." .
        ( ) ; . .

        . . . . .

        National / nation / nationalism annas " annas" are people

        Trade taradi " taradi" mean agreement , admission .
        (taradi) .
        429 O you who believe, do not consume your money between you unjustly, unless it is through a trade which is mutually agreed by you. And do not kill yourselves; God is Merciful towards you.

        summit / / / sama / samaa / sami " sama" mean become above or higher . ( ) . . .

        Model / metal " metal mean example , model

        earth alard " alard " is the earth

        energy annar " annar " is fire

        credit kard " kard " mean credit

        unique anik " anik" mean very elegant

        courage konrajol kounrajol mean be a man , mean have courage .

        up al ab " ala ab" mean the father

        down / doun / dounia / " dounia " mean the lowest

        excellent ahssant " ahssant " mean well done , excellent .

        kill katl " katl " mean to kill

        defence difaa "difaa" mean defence

        satisfied / istafadah / astafad stafad mean getting the profit from something

        baby / happy / hope / / habibi / hob / hoby " hob " mean my love , hoby mean my love , habibi mean my loving

        complet kamel " kamel " mean complet

        secret serr "serr" mean secret

        arkeology arrk " arrk" mean veins or the root of something

        get laket " laket" mean find

        Murangue / la marinade marak " marak" marak mean the sauce.

        garden jardah " jardah" is garden in some arabic dialect .

        bright bark " bark" is lightning

        tall tol " tol" mean length

        etc......

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          Very interesting! Thank you.

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            Slaamm

            Well maybe you will not understand many of these words but they are all from Arab/berber/MORish origin in the Portuguese Language still in use today and ive been searching around and i would say we got more than 3000 words From arab/berber or words they brought from orient to us.
            YEs we are from Europe but our lifestyle is more like North Africa. sun

            • A?afate (assafat, cesta)
            • A?afr?o (azzafaran, amarelo)
            • Ac?quia (assekyah, ribeiro de rega)
            • Achaque (ashshaka, enfermidade)
            • Acicate (ashshukat, espinho)
            • A?oite (assaut)
            • A?orda (athurda, sopa de p?o)
            • A?oteia (assutaiha)
            • A?ougue (assuk)
            • A?ucena (assusana)
            • A?ude (assudd)
            • A??car (assukar deriva do S?nscrito ?arkara, gr?os de areia)
            • Adarga (addarka, escudo)
            • Aduana (addwana)
            • Al? (al + il?h, divindade)
            • Alab?o (allabban, que d? muito leite)
            • Alambique
            • Alarife (alarif, s?bio, mestre de obras)
            • Alarve (al+ A'?rab, os ?rabes bedu?nos)
            • Alaz?o al-Hi??n Cavalo
            • Albarda (albarda'a)
            • Albardar (albarda'a)
            • Albornoz (Al'burnus, capa usada pelos Berberes)
            • Alc??ova (alkasaba, a zona administrativa de um castelo)
            • Alcachofra (Alkharshof, fruto do cardo manso)
            • Alcaide (alkaid, chefe)
            • Alcaidaria (alkaid, chefe)
            • Alcaiote (alkawwad)
            • Alcal?ide (palavra composta ?rab. alcali + Grego e?dos, forma)
            • Alcaravia (alkarawiya)
            • Alcaraviz (alkarab?s)
            • Alcateia (alkataia, rebanho)
            • Alcatifa (alkatifa)
            • Alcatruz (alkadus palavra composta ?rab. al + Grego k?dos, jarro para ?gua ou vinho)
            • Alcavala (alkabala, tributo)
            • Alcofa (alkuffa, cesto)
            • ?lcool (alkohul, coisa subtil)
            • Alcor?o (Alkuran, a leitura)
            • Alcova (al-qabu, quarto lateral)
            • Alecrim (aliklil)
            • Aletria (Axxa'riyaalitr?ya)
            • Alface al-kha? (veio a substituir o latim lactuca, leitosa, leitu?a, leituga, que por sua vez, derivou o fr. Laitue, o esp. Lechuga , o it. Lattuga e o ing. Lettuce)
            • Alfafa al-H?fa
            • Alfaia
            • Alfaiate al-khayy?t
            • Alf?ndega alfunduq
            • Alfanje al-Hanx serpente
            • Alfaraz al-faras cavalo ou ?gua
            • Alfarela
            • Alfarr?bio
            • Alfarrabista do nome do fil?sofo mu?ulmano al-F?r?b? que possuia e leia muitos livros.
            • Alfarrobaal-Kharrub. fruto e ?rvore
            • Alfarrobeira
            • Alfavaca al-hab?qa vaso onde se semeia a planta de al-habaq i.?. erva cedreira ? (n?o ? erva cidreira, al-habaq ? manjeric?o)
            • Alfazemaal-khuz?ma
            • Alfeire
            • Alferes (alfaris, cavaleiro)
            • Alfobre (alhufra, rego?)
            • Alforge (alhurj, sacola)
            • Alforria (palavra composta?rab.al + Franc?s feurre, livre) seria simplesmente a palavra ?rabe al-hurriya (a liberdade da qual temos forro hurr libre)
            • Algarismo (alkawarizmi, nome do matem?tico ?rabe Abu Ibn Mu?a)
            • ?lgebra
            • Algema (aljami'a, pulseira)
            • Algeroz (azzurub ???, canal)al-kharruj, aquele que faz sair
            • Algibeira (al-jab?ra, bolso)
            • Algod?o (alkutun)
            • Algodoeiro
            • Algoritmo
            • Alguidar (alqidr, escudela de barro)
            • Algoz (al-gozz, membro de uma tribo que recrutava carrascos)
            • Alicate (allikk?t, tenaz)
            • Aljama (aljamaa, reuni?o)
            • Aljava (aljaba)
            • Almadrava (almadraba)
            • Almanaque (almanakh)
            • Almedina (almedina, a cidade)
            • Alm?adaos almohadas dinastia maghrebina que governou ente 1145 e 1260 o Maghreb e o al-Andalus
            • Almocreve (almukari,alugar bestas)
            • Almofada (almukhadda de khadd, face)
            • Almofariz
            • Almofate (almikhyat, agulha, sovela)
            • Almofre
            • Almog?var (almugauar, guerreiro)
            • Alm?ndega (albundeca, avel??) tipo de papa preparada a base de cereais que se comia misturada com gordura (azeite ou manteiga)
            • Almor?vida (almurabit)
            • Almotac? (almuhtasib, mestre de aferi??o)
            • Almotolia (almutli)
            • Almoxarifado
            • Almoxarife
            • Almude unidade de peso
            • Alqueireal-keil unidade de peso para cereais
            • Alqueive
            • Alvanel
            • Alvar? al-bar?'a carta de autoriza??o
            • Alvazil al-waz?r ministro
            • Alveitar ?vetener?rio ou
            • Alvitana
            • Alv?ssaras
            • Alvorge
            • Armaz?m al-Makhzan
            • Arr?tel ritl unidade de peso
            • Arroba unidade de peso
            • Arrozarruzz
            • Arsenal tars?na
            • Atafal
            • Atafona moinho
            • Atalaia attal?'a torre de vigia localizada, fora das localidades, num s?tio alto.
            • Auge Auj'(o topo; ?ptimo)
            • Azar azzahr (sorte)
            • Azeite (substitui ?leo, ?leo de oliva)
            • Azeitona (substitui o latim oliva)
            • Azemelquem aluga os animais de carga
            • Az?mola animal de carga
            • Azimute assimt (? a marca??o em graus da posi??o de um astro no horizonte, medido do polo ao equador )
            • Azenha moinho de roda movido por ?gua
            • Azinhaga
            • Azulal-lzaward (empr?stimo ?rabe do persa ljward, lat. lapis lazuli, a pedra lazurita)
            • Azulejoal-zuleij (pedra pintada)

            B

            • Bafaf? bafaf (bolo)
            • Bara?o
            • Bolota

            C

            • Caf?]]
            • C?fila
            • Califa
            • Califado
            • Cartaz
            • Ceifa
            • Ceroulas (sarawil)
            • Chafariz
            • Cherne
            • Chifra
            • Cifra
            • Cotovia (al-kutubia, a livraria)

            D

            • Damasco

            E

            • Elixir('Al-Axir&#039
            • Emir ('Amir&#039
            • Emirato (Emirado)
            • Escabeche ('Sikbaj&#039
            • Esmeralda (zum?rrud)

            F

            • Falua (faluka)
            • Fat?mida
            • Fulano (Flan)

            G

            • Garrafa (karaf?, frasco bojudo)

            H

            • Har?m ('Harim&#039
            • Haxixe ('Hashish';maconha)

            I

            • Im? (imam, guia)
            • Isl?o (Isl?, Islame)

            J

            • Javali (jabali)

            L

            • Laranja (naranj deriva do Persa nar?ng)
            • Laranjeira (naranj deriva do Persa nar?ng)
            • Lez?ria (al-jaza'ir, ilhas)
            • Lim?o (laimun deriva do Persa limun)
            • Limoeiro (laimun deriva do Persa limun)

            M

            • Madra?al (madra?a, escola)
            • Magazine
            • Marabuto Mur?bit santo que se dedica ao rib?t i.? ? guerra santa ou ? vida religiosa dentro de um rib?t (local de medita??o religiosa ou de fronteira para proteger as terras do Isl?o)
            • Masmorra (matmura, celeiro subterr?neo)
            • Matraca (mitraka)
            • Mesquita (masdjid)
            • Mo??rabe (must'rib, arabizado)
            • Mud?jar (mudajjan, o que fica morando)
            • Muezim Muazzin respons?vel pelos chamamentos ?s ora??es can?nicas.
            • Maom? (original Muhammad. Tamb?m Maomet. Outrora Maomede, Mafoma, Mafamede)
            • Muladi muallad crist?o da Pen?nsula ib?rica convertido ao Isl?o (malado)

            N

            • Nadir (natir, oposto, proje??o na esfera celeste inferior)
            • Nora (na'?ra)

            O

            • Om?ada
            • Oxal? (in sha allah ou inshallah, se Deus quiser)

            P

            • Papagaio (babaga)

            R

            • Ramad?o
            • R?s
            • Resma

            S

            • S?faro (sahra', deserto)
            • Safra (safaria, esta??o da colheita)
            • Salamaleque (as-salam-alaik, a paz seja contigo)
            • Saloio (?ahroi, do campo)
            • Sultanato (sultan, dom?nio, dominador)
            • Sult?o (sultan, dom?nio, dominador)
            • Sura

            T

            • Tambor (tanbur deriva do Persa d?nb?ra, c?tara)

            X

            • Xadrez (xatranj deriva do S?nscrito xaturanga, que consta de quatro membros)
            • Xarope (sharab, bebida, po??o)
            • Xaveco (xabbak, pequeno navio de tr?s mastros e velas latinas)
            • Xerife
            • Xeque
            • Xeque-mate

            Z

            • Zarabatana (zarba t?n?)
            • Z?nite (samt, direc??o da cabe?a, caminho, proje??o na esfera celeste)

            NAMES OF CITYES PLACES

            Top?nimos de origem ARab/Berber Albarraque (Albarrak, ou o brilhante), Albufeira (Albuhaira, ou a pequena barragem), Alc?cer (Alqassr, ou o castelo), Alc??ovas (Alqassba, ou a cidadela fortificada), Alcaidaria (a chefia), Alcaide (o chefe), Alcains (Alkanissa, ou a igreja), Alc?ntara (a ponte), Alcantarilha (diminutivo de Alc?ntara), Alcaria (a aldeia), Alcoba?a (Alkubasha, ou os carneiros), Alcochete (Alqucha, ou o forno), Alcoentre (Alqunaitara, ou a ponte pequena), Alfama (Alhammam, ou os banhos), Alfambras (Alhamra, ou a vermelha), Alfarim (Alfarish, ou corte de floresta, no sentido de industria madeireira), Alfarrobeira (Alharruba, o mesmo que em portugu?s), Alferce (a picareta), Algarve (Algharb, ou o Ocidente), Algeruz (o canal), Alg?s (Aljaich, ou o ex?rcito), Algueir?o (Aljairan, ou as grutas), Alhandra (Alhammam, ou os banhos), Aljezur (Aljazair, ou as ilhas), Almacave (Almaqabara, ou os cemit?rios), Almada (Almadin, ou a mina), Almansil (a estalagem), Almargem (Almarjan, ou o prado), Almedina (a cidade), Almo?ageme (Almassjid, ou a mesquita), Almod?var (Almudura, ou o cercado redondo), Alqueid?o (Alhaima, ou a tenda), Alvai?zere (Albaiaz, ou o falcoeiro), Alvalade (Albalad, ou o campo), Alverca (Albirka, ou o p?ntano), Alvor (Albir, ou o po?o), Alvorge (Alburj, ou a torre), Arr?bida (lugar de ora??o), Asseca (caminho recto e plano), Atalaia (lugar alto de onde se exerce vigil?ncia), Azambuja (o zambujeiro), Azeit?o (zona de produ??o de azeite), Az?ia (Azauia, ou lugar de ora??o), Bensafrim (Ben Safarin, ou lugar dos feiticeiros), Bobadela (Bu abdallah, ou filho do escravo de Deus), Boliqueime (Bu Alhakim, nome pr?prio), Cac?m (nome pr?prio, que significa aquele que testemunha), Cane?as (Kanissa, ou igreja), Cuba (pequena torre), Faro (Harun, nome pr?prio), F?tima (nome da filha do Profeta Muhammad), Loul? (Al?ulia, ou a alta), Mafamude (Mahmmud, nome do Profeta), Mafra (Mahfra, ou cova), Malhada (lugar de travessia de um rio), Marv?o (Marwan, nome pr?prio), Massam? (Maktam?, ou nascente de ?gua), Mesquita (Massjid, o mesmo que em portugu?s), Messejana (pris?o), Odemira (Ued Amira, ou rio da princesa), Palmela (Bismillah, ou em nome de Deus), Queluz (vale da amendoeira), Safara (Sahara, ou deserta), Salema (Salama, ou paz).

            Sorry if soemeone wnat transelations i can provide ,D just pm to me

            SALAAM TO ALL , nice topic indeed.. sun

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              Slaamm

              Well maybe you will not understand many of these words but they are all from Arab/berber/MORish origin in the Portuguese Language still in use today and ive been searching around and i would say we got more than 3000 words From arab/berber or words they brought from orient to us.
              YEs we are from Europe but our lifestyle is more like North Africa. sun

              • A?afate (assafat, cesta)
              • A?afr?o (azzafaran, amarelo)
              • Ac?quia (assekyah, ribeiro de rega)
              • Achaque (ashshaka, enfermidade)
              • Acicate (ashshukat, espinho)
              • A?oite (assaut)
              • A?orda (athurda, sopa de p?o)
              • A?oteia (assutaiha)
              • A?ougue (assuk)
              • A?ucena (assusana)
              • A?ude (assudd)
              • A??car (assukar deriva do S?nscrito ?arkara, gr?os de areia)
              • Adarga (addarka, escudo)
              • Aduana (addwana)
              • Al? (al + il?h, divindade)
              • Alab?o (allabban, que d? muito leite)
              • Alambique
              • Alarife (alarif, s?bio, mestre de obras)
              • Alarve (al+ A'?rab, os ?rabes bedu?nos)
              • Alaz?o al-Hi??n Cavalo
              • Albarda (albarda'a)
              • Albardar (albarda'a)
              • Albornoz (Al'burnus, capa usada pelos Berberes)
              • Alc??ova (alkasaba, a zona administrativa de um castelo)
              • Alcachofra (Alkharshof, fruto do cardo manso)
              • Alcaide (alkaid, chefe)
              • Alcaidaria (alkaid, chefe)
              • Alcaiote (alkawwad)
              • Alcal?ide (palavra composta ?rab. alcali + Grego e?dos, forma)
              • Alcaravia (alkarawiya)
              • Alcaraviz (alkarab?s)
              • Alcateia (alkataia, rebanho)
              • Alcatifa (alkatifa)
              • Alcatruz (alkadus palavra composta ?rab. al + Grego k?dos, jarro para ?gua ou vinho)
              • Alcavala (alkabala, tributo)
              • Alcofa (alkuffa, cesto)
              • ?lcool (alkohul, coisa subtil)
              • Alcor?o (Alkuran, a leitura)
              • Alcova (al-qabu, quarto lateral)
              • Alecrim (aliklil)
              • Aletria (Axxa'riyaalitr?ya)
              • Alface al-kha? (veio a substituir o latim lactuca, leitosa, leitu?a, leituga, que por sua vez, derivou o fr. Laitue, o esp. Lechuga , o it. Lattuga e o ing. Lettuce)
              • Alfafa al-H?fa
              • Alfaia
              • Alfaiate al-khayy?t
              • Alf?ndega alfunduq
              • Alfanje al-Hanx serpente
              • Alfaraz al-faras cavalo ou ?gua
              • Alfarela
              • Alfarr?bio
              • Alfarrabista do nome do fil?sofo mu?ulmano al-F?r?b? que possuia e leia muitos livros.
              • Alfarrobaal-Kharrub. fruto e ?rvore
              • Alfarrobeira
              • Alfavaca al-hab?qa vaso onde se semeia a planta de al-habaq i.?. erva cedreira ? (n?o ? erva cidreira, al-habaq ? manjeric?o)
              • Alfazemaal-khuz?ma
              • Alfeire
              • Alferes (alfaris, cavaleiro)
              • Alfobre (alhufra, rego?)
              • Alforge (alhurj, sacola)
              • Alforria (palavra composta?rab.al + Franc?s feurre, livre) seria simplesmente a palavra ?rabe al-hurriya (a liberdade da qual temos forro hurr libre)
              • Algarismo (alkawarizmi, nome do matem?tico ?rabe Abu Ibn Mu?a)
              • ?lgebra
              • Algema (aljami'a, pulseira)
              • Algeroz (azzurub ???, canal)al-kharruj, aquele que faz sair
              • Algibeira (al-jab?ra, bolso)
              • Algod?o (alkutun)
              • Algodoeiro
              • Algoritmo
              • Alguidar (alqidr, escudela de barro)
              • Algoz (al-gozz, membro de uma tribo que recrutava carrascos)
              • Alicate (allikk?t, tenaz)
              • Aljama (aljamaa, reuni?o)
              • Aljava (aljaba)
              • Almadrava (almadraba)
              • Almanaque (almanakh)
              • Almedina (almedina, a cidade)
              • Alm?adaos almohadas dinastia maghrebina que governou ente 1145 e 1260 o Maghreb e o al-Andalus
              • Almocreve (almukari,alugar bestas)
              • Almofada (almukhadda de khadd, face)
              • Almofariz
              • Almofate (almikhyat, agulha, sovela)
              • Almofre
              • Almog?var (almugauar, guerreiro)
              • Alm?ndega (albundeca, avel??) tipo de papa preparada a base de cereais que se comia misturada com gordura (azeite ou manteiga)
              • Almor?vida (almurabit)
              • Almotac? (almuhtasib, mestre de aferi??o)
              • Almotolia (almutli)
              • Almoxarifado
              • Almoxarife
              • Almude unidade de peso
              • Alqueireal-keil unidade de peso para cereais
              • Alqueive
              • Alvanel
              • Alvar? al-bar?'a carta de autoriza??o
              • Alvazil al-waz?r ministro
              • Alveitar ?vetener?rio ou
              • Alvitana
              • Alv?ssaras
              • Alvorge
              • Armaz?m al-Makhzan
              • Arr?tel ritl unidade de peso
              • Arroba unidade de peso
              • Arrozarruzz
              • Arsenal tars?na
              • Atafal
              • Atafona moinho
              • Atalaia attal?'a torre de vigia localizada, fora das localidades, num s?tio alto.
              • Auge Auj'(o topo; ?ptimo)
              • Azar azzahr (sorte)
              • Azeite (substitui ?leo, ?leo de oliva)
              • Azeitona (substitui o latim oliva)
              • Azemelquem aluga os animais de carga
              • Az?mola animal de carga
              • Azimute assimt (? a marca??o em graus da posi??o de um astro no horizonte, medido do polo ao equador )
              • Azenha moinho de roda movido por ?gua
              • Azinhaga
              • Azulal-lzaward (empr?stimo ?rabe do persa ljward, lat. lapis lazuli, a pedra lazurita)
              • Azulejoal-zuleij (pedra pintada)

              B

              • Bafaf? bafaf (bolo)
              • Bara?o
              • Bolota

              C

              • Caf?]]
              • C?fila
              • Califa
              • Califado
              • Cartaz
              • Ceifa
              • Ceroulas (sarawil)
              • Chafariz
              • Cherne
              • Chifra
              • Cifra
              • Cotovia (al-kutubia, a livraria)

              D

              • Damasco

              E

              • Elixir('Al-Axir&#039
              • Emir ('Amir&#039
              • Emirato (Emirado)
              • Escabeche ('Sikbaj&#039
              • Esmeralda (zum?rrud)

              F

              • Falua (faluka)
              • Fat?mida
              • Fulano (Flan)

              G

              • Garrafa (karaf?, frasco bojudo)

              H

              • Har?m ('Harim&#039
              • Haxixe ('Hashish';maconha)

              I

              • Im? (imam, guia)
              • Isl?o (Isl?, Islame)

              J

              • Javali (jabali)

              L

              • Laranja (naranj deriva do Persa nar?ng)
              • Laranjeira (naranj deriva do Persa nar?ng)
              • Lez?ria (al-jaza'ir, ilhas)
              • Lim?o (laimun deriva do Persa limun)
              • Limoeiro (laimun deriva do Persa limun)

              M

              • Madra?al (madra?a, escola)
              • Magazine
              • Marabuto Mur?bit santo que se dedica ao rib?t i.? ? guerra santa ou ? vida religiosa dentro de um rib?t (local de medita??o religiosa ou de fronteira para proteger as terras do Isl?o)
              • Masmorra (matmura, celeiro subterr?neo)
              • Matraca (mitraka)
              • Mesquita (masdjid)
              • Mo??rabe (must'rib, arabizado)
              • Mud?jar (mudajjan, o que fica morando)
              • Muezim Muazzin respons?vel pelos chamamentos ?s ora??es can?nicas.
              • Maom? (original Muhammad. Tamb?m Maomet. Outrora Maomede, Mafoma, Mafamede)
              • Muladi muallad crist?o da Pen?nsula ib?rica convertido ao Isl?o (malado)

              N

              • Nadir (natir, oposto, proje??o na esfera celeste inferior)
              • Nora (na'?ra)

              O

              • Om?ada
              • Oxal? (in sha allah ou inshallah, se Deus quiser)

              P

              • Papagaio (babaga)

              R

              • Ramad?o
              • R?s
              • Resma

              S

              • S?faro (sahra', deserto)
              • Safra (safaria, esta??o da colheita)
              • Salamaleque (as-salam-alaik, a paz seja contigo)
              • Saloio (?ahroi, do campo)
              • Sultanato (sultan, dom?nio, dominador)
              • Sult?o (sultan, dom?nio, dominador)
              • Sura

              T

              • Tambor (tanbur deriva do Persa d?nb?ra, c?tara)

              X

              • Xadrez (xatranj deriva do S?nscrito xaturanga, que consta de quatro membros)
              • Xarope (sharab, bebida, po??o)
              • Xaveco (xabbak, pequeno navio de tr?s mastros e velas latinas)
              • Xerife
              • Xeque
              • Xeque-mate

              Z

              • Zarabatana (zarba t?n?)
              • Z?nite (samt, direc??o da cabe?a, caminho, proje??o na esfera celeste)

              NAMES OF CITYES PLACES

              Top?nimos de origem ARab/Berber Albarraque (Albarrak, ou o brilhante), Albufeira (Albuhaira, ou a pequena barragem), Alc?cer (Alqassr, ou o castelo), Alc??ovas (Alqassba, ou a cidadela fortificada), Alcaidaria (a chefia), Alcaide (o chefe), Alcains (Alkanissa, ou a igreja), Alc?ntara (a ponte), Alcantarilha (diminutivo de Alc?ntara), Alcaria (a aldeia), Alcoba?a (Alkubasha, ou os carneiros), Alcochete (Alqucha, ou o forno), Alcoentre (Alqunaitara, ou a ponte pequena), Alfama (Alhammam, ou os banhos), Alfambras (Alhamra, ou a vermelha), Alfarim (Alfarish, ou corte de floresta, no sentido de industria madeireira), Alfarrobeira (Alharruba, o mesmo que em portugu?s), Alferce (a picareta), Algarve (Algharb, ou o Ocidente), Algeruz (o canal), Alg?s (Aljaich, ou o ex?rcito), Algueir?o (Aljairan, ou as grutas), Alhandra (Alhammam, ou os banhos), Aljezur (Aljazair, ou as ilhas), Almacave (Almaqabara, ou os cemit?rios), Almada (Almadin, ou a mina), Almansil (a estalagem), Almargem (Almarjan, ou o prado), Almedina (a cidade), Almo?ageme (Almassjid, ou a mesquita), Almod?var (Almudura, ou o cercado redondo), Alqueid?o (Alhaima, ou a tenda), Alvai?zere (Albaiaz, ou o falcoeiro), Alvalade (Albalad, ou o campo), Alverca (Albirka, ou o p?ntano), Alvor (Albir, ou o po?o), Alvorge (Alburj, ou a torre), Arr?bida (lugar de ora??o), Asseca (caminho recto e plano), Atalaia (lugar alto de onde se exerce vigil?ncia), Azambuja (o zambujeiro), Azeit?o (zona de produ??o de azeite), Az?ia (Azauia, ou lugar de ora??o), Bensafrim (Ben Safarin, ou lugar dos feiticeiros), Bobadela (Bu abdallah, ou filho do escravo de Deus), Boliqueime (Bu Alhakim, nome pr?prio), Cac?m (nome pr?prio, que significa aquele que testemunha), Cane?as (Kanissa, ou igreja), Cuba (pequena torre), Faro (Harun, nome pr?prio), F?tima (nome da filha do Profeta Muhammad), Loul? (Al?ulia, ou a alta), Mafamude (Mahmmud, nome do Profeta), Mafra (Mahfra, ou cova), Malhada (lugar de travessia de um rio), Marv?o (Marwan, nome pr?prio), Massam? (Maktam?, ou nascente de ?gua), Mesquita (Massjid, o mesmo que em portugu?s), Messejana (pris?o), Odemira (Ued Amira, ou rio da princesa), Palmela (Bismillah, ou em nome de Deus), Queluz (vale da amendoeira), Safara (Sahara, ou deserta), Salema (Salama, ou paz).

              Sorry if soemeone wnat transelations i can provide ,D just pm to me

              SALAAM TO ALL , nice topic indeed.. sun

              salam NOMAD ,

              interesting , thx for posting this , post more plz if still , i am interested in linguistics

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                English / French / Latin / / Arabic Root Arabic Prononciation Comment

                Technology / Technic / / atkana / atkan / takniah "Atkana " mean to made something in a perfection way

                2788 And you see the mountains, you think they are solid, while they are passing by like the clouds. The making of God who perfected " atkana" everything. He is Expert over what you do.

                Matter / materialism / mda / maddah " maddah" is matter "mada" mean to stretch in a deep meaning ti mean to occupy a space to become a thing , it mean also to give or to supply with things with matter

                1720 For both groups We will bestow "nomed" from the bounty of your Lord. And the bounty of your Lord is never restricted.

                133 And He is the One who has spread " mada" out the land, and made in it stabilizers and rivers, and all the fruits He made in pairs; the night covers the day. In that are signs for a people who think.

                sport / / sabara / alsabr / alsabereen " Alsabr" mean patience , it mean being capable of supporting endurance this is where the word "sport" come from.

                245 And seek help through patience"alsabr" and through the contact prayer. It is a difficult thing, but not so for the humble.

                To Englobe / global Kalab " kalab" mean the template witch we use as shape/form for something , the same meaning as to Englobe.

                Vito fatwa " fatwa" is statement/ announcement / declaration made by somebody to clarify something or what to do or not to do . this is the Wikipedia explanation A veto, Latin for "I forbid", is the power of an officer of the state to unilaterally stop an official action, especially enactment of a piece of legislation.
                in the Quran its made clearly that people come to "the prophet" asking for fatwa about something the answer was 4176 They seek a "Yastaftounak/Vito" from you, say "God gives you the "youftikoum / fatwah/Vito" for those who have no descendants. If a person passes away and has no children but has a sister, then she shall receive half of what he leaves behind. And he will inherit from her if she has no child.

                Brain / burn / fad / fouad "fad" mean to burn ( ) . . fouad " is the place of reasoning/ thinking
                1678 And God brought you out of the wombs of your mothers while you knew nothing. And He has made for you the hearing and the eyesight and "al afida "the brains, perhaps you would be thankful.

                rules / r?gles / ghal / aghlal "aghlal" mean the shackles , a verse of the Quran talk about the children of Israel if they follow the coming prophet mention in their books he will take off their shackles
                7157 "Those who follow the Gentile messenger prophet whom they find written for them in the Torah and the Gospel; he orders them to kindness, and prohibits them from vice, and he makes lawful for them the good things, and he makes unlawful for them the evil things, and he removes their burden and the shackles that are upon them.

                these shackles are rules/laws that restrict their everyday life because of their bad deeds , a lot of things was made unlawful for them because of their behavior , so these "rules/aghlal" are a law restricting them same as shackles.

                law/ lawyer / lawh / alwah "lawh" mean tablet . Moses recieved tablets " alwah" where the comendement was written , the commendement is simply law , the call it law becouse it was written in "tablets lawh"

                7145 And We wrote for him on the tablets " alalwah" from all things a lesson, and detailing all things. Take it with strength and order your people to take the best from it. I will show you the abode of the wicked.

                Build / building blat "blat" is a stage of building a wall or a house

                ( ) .
                . .

                Water matter " mattar" mean rain

                784 And We rained down upon them a rain, so see how was the punishment for the criminals.

                ...to be continued

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                  Salam To all ,

                  This is for those who are still in doubt about the origin of English Language . I do not aim by this topic anything except comparative linguistic study.

                  While i was doing my ethological study of some Latin words , i did post some and still have more , I found while i was doing a research in linguistic lately a book with 500 English word by alphabetic order from a study of a researcher , i'll download the full book for Arabic readers later, here are by Alphabetic order

                  Letter A

                  English / Arabic root and meaning Arabic pronunciation

                  Aard Arrd
                  .

                  Aard wolf Deb Al-Arrd

                  Abet Abatta

                  .

                  Abide Abada
                  , .
                  . .

                  Abode Al-oboud
                  , .
                  .

                  Ably Abla
                  , .

                  Acclimate Yata9lam
                  .
                  .

                  Accolade Al-9ilada
                  , .
                  .

                  Accrete Al-Kharidah
                  .
                  . .

                  Aceldama Ha9l Al-dam
                  .
                  .

                  Acephalous Al-asfal
                  , .
                  " . .

                  Ache Akh
                  , .
                  " " .

                  Acid Al-shayed
                  , ,
                  .

                  Acme Al-Kemma
                  , .
                  .

                  Act Al-aa'kd
                  , .
                  .

                  Address Al-darss
                  , .
                  .

                  Adhere Al-daherr
                  , .
                  . " .

                  Adob Al-tobb
                  .
                  "

                  Aeon Hen
                  , .
                  " , .

                  Aestivate Al-estayaf

                  " "

                  Agamic Al-aa'kem
                  , .
                  . .

                  Agamogenesis Al-Ginss Al-aa'kem
                  .
                  .

                  Genesis Al-Ginss
                  .
                  .

                  Agape Aa'jab
                  ,
                  . .

                  Age Ajal
                  , .
                  . ,

                  Agile Aa'jel
                  , .
                  . .

                  Agleam Al-jalim
                  .
                  .

                  Agony Al-konouA
                  , , .
                  , . .

                  Agree Akarra
                  , .
                  . .

                  Aglow Al-jalw
                  , .
                  . , , .

                  Aggravate Akrafa
                  , .
                  .

                  Aid Ayada
                  , .
                  . ,

                  Ail Aa'la
                  .
                  .

                  Aim Amma
                  .
                  . .

                  Air Al-herr
                  .
                  . .

                  Aisl Aa'zel
                  .
                  . . .

                  Ajar Ajrr

                  . .

                  Alarm Al-aa'ram
                  , , .
                  . . .

                  Alas Al-assa
                  .
                  .

                  Allege Alaka
                  , .
                  . .

                  Alleluia Hallilou
                  .
                  .

                  Alley Allaey
                  ,
                  . " " .

                  Aloha Al-lawh
                  , .
                  .

                  Altar Al-tar
                  , .
                  . ..

                  Alumna

                  Alumnus Alaa'oloum
                  .
                  .

                  Amain Amaa'na

                  .

                  Amputate Al-batt
                  .
                  .

                  Amuse Al-mozah
                  , .
                  . .

                  Anabatic Al-nabtt

                  . .

                  Anaphase Al-Infisal
                  .
                  .

                  Anaphrodisia Al-nafrogissia
                  .
                  , . .

                  Anastigmate Al-istikama
                  .
                  .

                  Anecdote Al-nokta
                  , .
                  .

                  Anchor Al-khourr
                  ,
                  ,

                  Anemo Al-naa'mi
                  .
                  .

                  Anemograph Gharaf Al-naa'ami

                  . .

                  Anemone Al-noaa'man
                  .
                  .

                  Anger Al-naghrr
                  , .
                  . .

                  Angle Al-najl
                  , " " .
                  . , " " .

                  Anile Al-nalnal
                  ,
                  .

                  Animal Al-anaa'am
                  .
                  . al alanim .

                  Anklebone Al-bwani
                  .
                  . , .

                  Ankylose Al-9alouss
                  .
                  . . .

                  Annex Al-nakss
                  , .
                  . " " .

                  Annotate Al-nottah
                  .
                  . . . .

                  Annoy Al-naa'i
                  , , .
                  . , .

                  Anon Hala(n)
                  .
                  " N " .

                  Anosmia Al-nassima
                  .
                  , , .

                  Anoxia Al-nakssiah
                  .
                  .

                  Apace Abazza
                  .
                  . .

                  Aparega Al-barjass
                  .
                  , .

                  Ape Al-habn

                  . ,

                  Apron Al-habrr
                  , .
                  . . " .

                  Aptera Al-batrA
                  .
                  .

                  Apteral Al-abtar
                  .
                  " " .

                  Arable
                  Ara....able Aa'rA Kabel
                  ,
                  " " .
                  " " a " .

                  Arc Aa'rj
                  .
                  . " " " " .

                  Arch Aa'rj
                  ,
                  . " " . . " " . .

                  Arch or

                  Arghi Al-assli
                  , .
                  . " " , .

                  Archly Al-aa'rkab
                  , .
                  . .

                  Ardent Al-radn
                  , , .
                  . , , " . " .

                  Argus Arak
                  .
                  " " .

                  Arid Hard
                  ,
                  . , " " .

                  Arise Al-razn
                  .
                  . . .

                  Ark Al-Harjj
                  " "

                  to be continued...Letter A

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                    Ark Al-Harjj
                    " "
                    . " " .

                    Arm Harama
                    .
                    . , . " " .

                    Arm Aa'rm
                    Infant in arm
                    .
                    . . . " " .

                    Arm Al-aa'rram
                    ,
                    . . .

                    Army Al-aa'ramram
                    .
                    . .

                    Arouse Harrada
                    , , .
                    . " " .

                    Array Arraa'
                    .
                    . " " .

                    Array Al-Harrer

                    . . . " .

                    Arrest Al-rassd
                    , .
                    . .

                    Arum Al-harm
                    .
                    . .

                    Arroyo Al-rawey
                    , .
                    . . .

                    Arson Arath

                    . . . " " .

                    Ascend Al-sanad
                    , .
                    . .

                    Ascend Al-isnad
                    .
                    . " " .

                    Asgard Askara
                    .
                    . . .

                    Asleep Al-saleeb
                    , , .
                    " " .

                    Ashamed Al-hashm
                    Ashame..
                    ,
                    . " " , . . .

                    Aspirate Al-zafeer
                    H
                    . .

                    Aspire Al-zafeer
                    , , ,
                    . . . .

                    Assail Al-shayel
                    , .
                    . . .

                    Assay aa'ssa
                    , .
                    . " " .

                    Assert Assarra

                    . " " .

                    Assort Al-sarrd
                    , .
                    . . .

                    Assure Al-shawr
                    , .
                    . . . .

                    Astern
                    Ast? AL-ist
                    , .
                    . .

                    Asylum Al-salam
                    .
                    .

                    Atlas Al-talss
                    .
                    . " " " , .

                    Atlas Al-talss
                    .
                    . . , . , " . " " . , " " " "

                    Attak Al-daa'k
                    .
                    " " .

                    Attain Al-deen
                    , .
                    " . . . .

                    Attenuate Al-danayah
                    , .
                    " " " " .

                    Attune Al-dan
                    ,
                    . " " .

                    Auabade Awabed
                    , .
                    . .

                    Audien-

                    Audient Al-Oudn
                    , .
                    . . " " .

                    Auric Al-wara9
                    , .
                    . .

                    Author Al-ather
                    , .
                    . . . .

                    Autogenesis

                    -genesis Jinss
                    .
                    " " .

                    Autogamy Aa'kem

                    -gamy
                    .
                    .

                    Ave Aa'feya
                    .
                    " " .

                    Average Al-fark
                    . .
                    . . .

                    Aweary Al-waa'r
                    , , .
                    , . . .

                    Awl Al-aa'wel
                    , .
                    , .

                    Ax , Axe A'kassa
                    .
                    .

                    Ay , Aye Aye
                    .
                    .

                    To be continued ...Letter B soon

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                      Peace Alkitab,

                      All languages by their very nature develop and interact with other languages and borrow from them. This is normal. However, what is not normal is the dogmatic belief of some Sunnis that Arabic is the origin of all languages. This is rooted in the nonsensical belief that Arabic is a divine language. This goes back to the ancient dispute about the great reading being created or uncreated. The Sunnis believe that it is uncreated and therefore they often consider its Arabic language also uncreated.

                      I will demonstrate the problems with attributing everything to Arabic through the example below where you make the common error of attempting to attribute the word "jund" to an Arabic origin

                      gendarmes/ gendarmerie / jond / jonoud "jond " jound mean military forces .3628 And We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the heaven; for there was no need to send them down.. . ( ) . . please note that the english and the arabic word gendarmey/ jound / does conatin the word" jinn " .

                      The word "jund" occurs some 29 times in the great reading in various forms. The word has no verbal root in Arabic, in other words the word "janad" doesn't exist in the Arabic language. We only find the word "jannad" (to make troops). What we find is that "jund" in fact comes from Persian where it means army or troop. First it was borrowed from Persian into Aramaic. So it either came to Arabic directly from Persian or (more probably) through Aramaic.

                      Peace,

                      Ayman

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                        Salaam

                        Seems logical, and we cant just say one word is from arab roots only by sounding/adaptation... but altought i dont bealive Creator using Persian words, while Quran is arabic... that unsenssless.. The Quran language is the "upgrade" of south Arabian dialects.. like Sabean and thamudic,etc.. dont think its persian..i bealive that persian adopted many stuff.. and then chenged in their way and invented Hadiths and so on..again, Allah knows best

                        peace pr

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                          Peace Alkitab,

                          All languages by their very nature develop and interact with other languages and borrow from them. This is normal. However, what is not normal is the dogmatic belief of some Sunnis that Arabic is the origin of all languages. This is rooted in the nonsensical belief that Arabic is a divine language. This goes back to the ancient dispute about the great reading being created or uncreated. The Sunnis believe that it is uncreated and therefore they often consider its Arabic language also uncreated.

                          I will demonstrate the problems with attributing everything to Arabic through the examplemake below where you the common error of attempting to attribute the word "jund" to an Arabic origin

                          The word "jund" occurs some 29 times in the great reading in various forms. The word has no verbal root in Arabic, in other words the word "janad" doesn't exist in the Arabic language. We only find the word "jannad" (to make troops). What we find is that "jund" in fact comes from Persian where it means army or troop. First it was borrowed from Persian into Aramaic. So it either came to Arabic directly from Persian or (more probably) through Aramaic.

                          Peace,

                          Ayman

                          Mister Aymen, I respect you a lot, and admire your sincere search of truth, but in this one, I totally agree with with what "Alkitab" posted
                          the Arabic language is as modern as english, frensh and other europeen languages, tha anciant languages are , the Quran language, maybe latin, hindu etc
                          the arabic language is inspired from the quran, and made up to alter the senses of the words , for exemple, the word ALHAMD, which is used to mean THANK , just as choukr, but inreality , when you study the word, it means something greater than that, it means the COMMAND

                          exemple, proof from the quran , the KAFIROON, responded by HAMDI of their Lord

                          • 52 -

                          The day he'll call you and you responds by his command and you will believe you rested only a little 1752

                          I give you another exemple, these people who invented languages and fabricated them when colonising the world, wanted to change the whole HISTORY , to keep controlling in the future
                          look at the word ALROOM
                          1 -

                          2 -
                          the ROOM was defeated
                          3 -
                          in the lowest land, and after their defeat, they will be victorious
                          4 -
                          in a few years, for Allah are the affairs from before and after, and that moment will be joyfull for MUMINUN
                          5 -
                          With the triumph of Allah, he'll triumph whom he wills and he is the supreme, the mercifull

                          When I read these verses, I ask a question, why would the mouslim be joyfull and happy, with the victory of a foreign nation, agaist another foreign nation, while they're both non muslims ? Why would Allah promiss a victory to muslims, while the victory isn't their and they have nothing to do in that war ? and the best is, why allah calls that victory of a non muslim nation, NASR ALLAH ?
                          this whole thing stink SATAN explanation in history and hadith books
                          when you study the quran alone , you get this

                          • 9 - 17 - 179

                          RAMAYT - RAMA

                          • 7 - 94 - 123

                          RIMAHA-KUM
                          therefore, Rama and rimah etc... all this together is called ARMY
                          ALROOM = ARMY, this sourah is talking about a defeat of the muslim army, and the promise was made that they will be victorious
                          here prophecy fullfilled

                            • 1 -

                          when came the victory of Allah and triumph

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                          And when the MUMINUN saw the faderates, they said this is what been promissed to us by allah and his messenger, allah is truthfull and his messenger, and it added to them only safety and peace

                          the sourah alroom , sall be translated like this
                          1 -
                          A L M
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                          the Army was defeated
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                          in the lowes land, and after their defeat, they will be victorious
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                          in a few years, to Allaj are the affairs from before and after, and in that moment will be joyfull for MUMINUN
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                          With the triumph of Allah, he'll triumph whom he wills and he is the supreme, the mercifull

                          IT MAKES P?RFECT SENSE ( TO ME )vv
                          and conclusion
                          Alroom = Army , perfect match , Etymology way speaking

                          I suggest, Take in consideration that the language of the quran, is the 1st language intelligent men were inspired FROM ALLAH, at least, give a prooof that the language of the quran , is just another langue made by man , or the TONGUE inspired from the begining
                          I use to laugh at Arabs when they say Arabic is the origin of all languages, but after study, I realised that ARABS are wrong, because the quran isn't arabic language, but it contains all languages of the world

                          BY The way , JUNUD isn't persian , it simply means AGENTS , when Allah speaks of Agents we don't see, he's talking about secret agents, and not some spirits from another dimension, but men , agents

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                            Brother loxbox13,

                            I do agree with you on your skepticsims why would Believers be joyful when Pagan Christian Amry of Roma defates Pagan Army of Persian.

                            You have to notice that the two parties involved in the battles are mentioned in the ayyat ( Alroom and the Believers), so the battle has to be between Alroom and the believers, the thing is that the dialectical marks are messed up, the verse should be with Fatha and not Kasra (Ghalabat Alroom=Rome Won) and NOT (Gholibat Alroom= Rome Lost).

                            Believers are sad because Rome won over them, and Allah swt is promising believers of later victory.

                            I believe the ayyat are talking about Muta battle where the muslim went after the ruler of Balqa killed the messenger of the prophet, Balqa is in modern day Jordan. Muslims were effectively defeated by the romans, the battle took place in year 8 hijri. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mu%27tah

                            The Muslims retaliated and the Rome was defeated in the battle of Yarmouk in year 13 hijri. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yarmouk

                            Mister Aymen, I respect you a lot, and admire your sincere search of truth, but in this one, I totally agree with with what "Alkitab" posted
                            the Arabic language is as modern as english, frensh and other europeen languages, tha anciant languages are , the Quran language, maybe latin, hindu etc
                            the arabic language is inspired from the quran, and made up to alter the senses of the words , for exemple, the word ALHAMD, which is used to mean THANK , just as choukr, but inreality , when you study the word, it means something greater than that, it means the COMMAND

                            exemple, proof from the quran , the KAFIROON, responded by HAMDI of their Lord

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                            The day he'll call you and you responds by his command and you will believe you rested only a little 1752

                            I give you another exemple, these people who invented languages and fabricated them when colonising the world, wanted to change the whole HISTORY , to keep controlling in the future
                            look at the word ALROOM
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                            2 -
                            the ROOM was defeated
                            3 -
                            in the lowest land, and after their defeat, they will be victorious
                            4 -
                            in a few years, for Allah are the affairs from before and after, and that moment will be joyfull for MUMINUN
                            5 -
                            With the triumph of Allah, he'll triumph whom he wills and he is the supreme, the mercifull

                            When I read these verses, I ask a question, why would the mouslim be joyfull and happy, with the victory of a foreign nation, agaist another foreign nation, while they're both non muslims ? Why would Allah promiss a victory to muslims, while the victory isn't their and they have nothing to do in that war ? and the best is, why allah calls that victory of a non muslim nation, NASR ALLAH ?
                            this whole thing stink SATAN explanation in history and hadith books
                            when you study the quran alone , you get this

                            • 9 - 17 - 179

                            RAMAYT - RAMA

                            • 7 - 94 - 123

                            RIMAHA-KUM
                            therefore, Rama and rimah etc... all this together is called ARMY
                            ALROOM = ARMY, this sourah is talking about a defeat of the muslim army, and the promise was made that they will be victorious
                            here prophecy fullfilled

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                            when came the victory of Allah and triumph

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                            And when the MUMINUN saw the faderates, they said this is what been promissed to us by allah and his messenger, allah is truthfull and his messenger, and it added to them only safety and peace

                            the sourah alroom , sall be translated like this
                            1 -
                            A L M
                            2 -
                            the Army was defeated
                            3 -
                            in the lowes land, and after their defeat, they will be victorious
                            4 -
                            in a few years, to Allaj are the affairs from before and after, and in that moment will be joyfull for MUMINUN
                            5 -
                            With the triumph of Allah, he'll triumph whom he wills and he is the supreme, the mercifull

                            IT MAKES P?RFECT SENSE ( TO ME )vv
                            and conclusion
                            Alroom = Army , perfect match , Etymology way speaking

                            I suggest, Take in consideration that the language of the quran, is the 1st language intelligent men were inspired FROM ALLAH, at least, give a prooof that the language of the quran , is just another langue made by man , or the TONGUE inspired from the begining
                            I use to laugh at Arabs when they say Arabic is the origin of all languages, but after study, I realised that ARABS are wrong, because the quran isn't arabic language, but it contains all languages of the world

                            BY The way , JUNUD isn't persian , it simply means AGENTS , when Allah speaks of Agents we don't see, he's talking about secret agents, and not some spirits from another dimension, but men , agents

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                              Brother loxbox13,

                              I do agree with you on your skepticsims why would Believers be joyful when Pagan Christian Amry of Roma defates Pagan Army of Persian.

                              You have to notice that the two parties involved in the battles are mentioned in the ayyat ( Alroom and the Believers), so the battle has to be between Alroom and the believers, the thing is that the dialectical marks are messed up, the verse should be with Fatha and not Kasra (Ghalabat Alroom=Rome Won) and NOT (Gholibat Alroom= Rome Lost).

                              Believers are sad because Rome won over them, and Allah swt is promising believers of later victory.

                              I believe the ayyat are talking about Muta battle where the muslim went after the ruler of Balqa killed the messenger of the prophet, Balqa is in modern day Jordan. Muslims were effectively defeated by the romans, the battle took place in year 8 hijri. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Mu%27tah

                              The Muslims retaliated and the Rome was defeated in the battle of Yarmouk in year 13 hijri. http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Yarmouk

                              Excuse me brother, if you use wiki sunni history, you better changer your mind, because ROMA isn't called AROOM in, arabic, but Al ROUMAN

                              Alroom simply means the army, it is the muslim army

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                                Excuse me brother, if you use wiki sunni history, you better changer your mind, because ROMA isn't called AROOM in, arabic, but Al ROUMAN

                                Alroom simply means the army, it is the muslim army

                                Dear Brother,

                                I am not taking wikipedia as the source of my knowledge, I simply sent you a link on wikipedia because it shows the history in Muslim eyes ( they thought they won in Mutah) but when you read it carefully they actually lost.

                                now back to Ghalabat(won) Rome or Gholibat(lost) Rome, the verse should read like this"

                                Rome Won, ...................................... and after that they will lose..................................... and believers will rejoice

                                Many of tafaseer even indicates that it could be read with kasra ( Rome won), Tabari.. etc

                                ( &#1615 .

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                                  Dear Brother,

                                  I am not taking wikipedia as the source of my knowledge, I simply sent you a link on wikipedia because it shows the history in Muslim eyes ( they thought they won in Mutah) but when you read it carefully they actually lost.

                                  now back to Ghalabat(won) Rome or Gholibat(lost) Rome, the verse should read like this"

                                  Rome Won, ...................................... and after that they will lose..................................... and believers will rejoice

                                  Many of tafaseer even indicates that it could be read with kasra ( Rome won), Tabari.. etc

                                  ( &#1615 .

                                  { } .

                                  ?

                                  these taffasirs were made by non muslim people, to delude the muslim ummah, you still trust poeple you never knew ?

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                                    Indo-European, yes it's true what we say/joke that our language is so old that Adam spoke Albanian!

                                    http//albcc.com/indo-european_tree.jpg

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                                      I give you another exemple, these people who invented languages and fabricated them when colonising the world, wanted to change the whole HISTORY , to keep controlling in the future
                                      look at the word ALROOM
                                      1 -
                                      2 -
                                      the ROOM was defeated
                                      3 -
                                      in the lowest land, and after their defeat, they will be victorious
                                      4 -
                                      in a few years, for Allah are the affairs from before and after, and that moment will be joyfull for MUMINUN
                                      5 -
                                      With the triumph of Allah, he'll triumph whom he wills and he is the supreme, the mercifull
                                      When I read these verses, I ask a question, why would the mouslim be joyfull and happy, with the victory of a foreign nation, agaist another foreign nation, while they're both non muslims ? Why would Allah promiss a victory to muslims, while the victory isn't their and they have nothing to do in that war ? and the best is, why allah calls that victory of a non muslim nation, NASR ALLAH ?
                                      this whole thing stink SATAN explanation in history and hadith books

                                      In this case, the simplest explanation is that the vocalization marks are wrong. It should be the Romans won and afterwards they will lose. There is too much pre-quranic evidence of the word "rwm" as "Romans" in the epigraphic record, including the famous Namara inscription.

                                      I suggest, Take in consideration that the language of the quran, is the 1st language intelligent men were inspired FROM ALLAH, at least, give a prooof that the language of the quran , is just another langue made by man , or the TONGUE inspired from the begining
                                      I use to laugh at Arabs when they say Arabic is the origin of all languages, but after study, I realised that ARABS are wrong, because the quran isn't arabic language, but it contains all languages of the world
                                      BY The way , JUNUD isn't persian , it simply means AGENTS , when Allah speaks of Agents we don't see, he's talking about secret agents, and not some spirits from another dimension, but men , agents

                                      The great reading itself says that it was revealed in the language of the people of the messenger and not in somekind of divine language. In fact, the Arabic language, like any human language, contains many inconsistencies and those linguistic inconsistencies are obvious in the great reading. However, this is part of the amazing characteristics of the great reading. The god took an inconsistent human language and used it to deliver a consistent and very powerful message.

                                      The word "jund" is Persian and as I said it has no verbal root in Arabic. On the other hand, it is documented in Persian inscriptions that predate the Arabic language.

                                      Peace,

                                      Ayman

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                                        Peace loxbox

                                        There are other reasons why Qoran( the last testament) was sent in Arabic, as well as "because the prophet was Arab" Quote from RK

                                        Arabic is the most efficient language in the world, especially when it comes to the precise statement of laws. Since the Quran is a Statute Book, it was crucial that such laws must be clearly stated. God chose Arabic for His Final Testament because of the obvious reason that it is the most suitable language for that purpose. Arabic is unique in its efficiency and accuracy. For example, the word "they" in English does not tell you if "they" are males or females. In Arabic there is a "they" for the males, "HUM," and a "they" for the females, "HUNNA." There is even a "they" for two males, "HUMAA," and a "they" for two females, "HAATAAN." This feature does not exist in any other language in the world.

                                        Also

                                        The word "Qaalataa" of 2823, for example, translates into four English words "the two women said." Such is the efficiency of the Arabic language.

                                        Another possible reason for choosing Arabic is the fact that "He" and "She" do not necessarily imply natural gender. Thus, when God is referred to as "He," this does not imply gender at all. God be glorified; He is neither male, nor female. The usage of "He" to refer to God in the English language, for example, has contributed to a false image of God. This was not helped by such distorted expressions as "Father" when referring to God. You never find such a reference to God in the Quran.

                                        I happen to agree with this , even though I do not know Arabic well.

                                        Peace.

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                                          Peace loxbox
                                          There are other reasons why Qoran( the last testament) was sent in Arabic, as well as "because the prophet was Arab" Quote from RK
                                          Arabic is the most efficient language in the world, especially when it comes to the precise statement of laws. Since the Quran is a Statute Book, it was crucial that such laws must be clearly stated. God chose Arabic for His Final Testament because of the obvious reason that it is the most suitable language for that purpose. Arabic is unique in its efficiency and accuracy. For example, the word "they" in English does not tell you if "they" are males or females. In Arabic there is a "they" for the males, "HUM," and a "they" for the females, "HUNNA." There is even a "they" for two males, "HUMAA," and a "they" for two females, "HAATAAN." This feature does not exist in any other language in the world.

                                          The Last Testament? Bah....
                                          Where does the quran claim that it's the 'last testament'?
                                          Again "Testament (First,Second,Last,New, Old)" is a by product of judeo-xtians mindset...

                                          Arabic as 'most efficient' language?

                                          Again.. let's define the clear objective criteria first.. what is 'efficient' language..??
                                          Without those clear criteria the title of "Most efficient" cannot be decided objectively and it left to the subjective judgement of each person.

                                          Salam / Peace

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