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Salam
i remember i have read in the book of Maurice Bucaille that 7 is special number used in ancient times to designate an indeterminate number.
so wa can have
6512 God who has created multiple heavens and an equivalent number of earths; the command is sent down between them; that you may know that God is capable of all things, and that God has encompassed all things with His knowledge.
notice also verse
376 We have adorned the lower (or nearer) heaven with the decoration of planets.so planets are only in the lower (or nearer) heaven
we can deduce that a heaven is, at least, as large as solar system6512 then can be interpreted as existence of planets like earth in other solar system
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I don't understand Arabic, but I compared various translations and I found that many of them put "stars" not "planets". (
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I have been told that both kawkab and najm mean star, but in different capacities
Najm is a star which has light giving and flickering appearence. If you look up into the night sky, into the sea of stars, and see a najm, and then look elsewhere, you will generally not find the same najm again when looking back up.
Kaukab is a star, or heavenly body, that is used for finding a direction. When you see it in the sky, then look away, and then lift your eyes to find it again, it will be very easy to spot it. It would be prominent like e.g. the polar star.
Compare how these words are used in AQ
Ayah 812 speaks about stars losing their lustre... so the word used is najm, since it has to do with flickering and light, which is a property which is lost when the lustre is removed.
Ayah 822 speaks about stars being scattered... so the word used is kaukab, since it has to do with the fixedness and direction giving property, which is a property that is lost when they are scattered or dispersed.
I was even told that in kaukab, you see the letter in the word (like the star in the sky), then look away, and then you immediately see the again. Plus the letter is considered one of the strong letters, pointing to the steady property of the kaukab. I really don't know about strong and weak letter, but I was told that e.g. is softer/weaker than ... and there are other pairs like this.
So I was told...
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Even google translate says means "planets". Oh God, why translate it as "stars" then....
http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/04.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Sura%20006/05.%20Kokab%20planet/4.gif The Planets
There is no denying that the Ancient Arabs had developed, over the centuries, their own popular knowledge of the Sky and celestial bodies and phenomenon. They knew the fixed stars and planets. Hundreds of stars were known by name and there were indigenous names for the planets. The Bedouins used the stars for orientation in the migrations by night.**
However, the majority of translators of Grand Qur'aan, unfortunately, did not use different words feeling convenience in describing various Arabic words of absolutely different origins and significations by a single word "Star".
http//haqeeqat.org.pk/English%20Tafsir%20e%20Haqeeqat/00.Tabweeb%20Part%202/04.%20Roots%20originating%20in%20Sura%20006/05.%20Kokab%20planet/2.gif is one such word that was translated by the majority as "Star". However, the Grand Qur'aan has identified it as a celestial object, different and distinct from the Stars, at the very first place of its use in 676
..........ContinueHow many planets are in our solar system
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salam,
the expression "nearest heaven" appear in 3 verses.
376 We have adorned the lower (nearest) heaven with the decoration of planets.
4112 Thus, He then made them into seven heavens in two days, and He inspired to every heaven its affair. And We adorned the lowest (nearest) heaven with lamps, and for protection. Such is the design of the Noble, the Knowledgeable.
675 And We have adorned the lower (nearest) heaven with lamps, and We made it with projectiles against the devils; and We prepared for them the retribution of the blazing Fire.I think that nearest is better traduction than lowest for word "Donia". Lowest would be "asfal" in arabic. See for example 8-42 where donia is opposed to far.
in 28-42, donia is used to mean world. Many times in quran, Hayat donia (life in this world) is opposed in thereafter (akhira).
So Donia can point to our known world and Samaa ol donia could mean the heaven that contain our world.In verse 24-35, word Misbah (lamp) is used to designate light of god that looks likes planet (kaoukab). Looks like mean that it is not really kawkab.
24-35 shows clearly that lamp has is ows combustibleVerse 71-16 shows that moon is only illuminating while sun is a lamp (siraj)
going back to 675, since samaa donia contains many lamps, it think it mean our entire galaxy.
Other heavens would then mean other galaxies.this verse
1744 He is glorified by the seven heavens and the earth and that which is in them, and there is not a thing except it glorifies His praise, but you do not comprehend their glorification. He is Compassionate, Forgiving.shows that the seven heavens contains things.
65-12 is clear about the facts that there are other "earths"A good analysis woul be longer.
The seven heavers are described as layers (tibakan as in 71-15 and 67-3), ways (Taraik 23-17)Peace
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If one looks at the sky through the eyes of a 7th century camel herder or caravan navigator, it becomes much easier.
In my opinion, the seven heavens or seven domes actually represent the pagan concept of the gods on seven objects in space known in the 7th century (Sun, Moon, Jupiter, Mars, Mercury, Saturn, Venus or ?naked eye planets? according to the Ptolemaic theory) until the observations and research of Copernicus put an end to that. Corresponding to the seven heaves were seven Hells, as so vividly described by Dante. There are other descriptions of different models of Earth or many earths and each with domes over them. Whatever the ancient description may be, none of them in any way represent a scientific fact or reality. -
If one looks at the sky through the eyes of a 7th century camel herder or caravan navigator, it becomes much easier.
In my opinion, the seven heavens or seven domes actually represent the pagan concept of the gods on seven objects in space known in the 7th century (Sun, Moon, Jupiter, Mars, Mercury, Saturn, Venus or ?naked eye planets? according to the Ptolemaic theory) until the observations and research of Copernicus put an end to that. Corresponding to the seven heaves were seven Hells, as so vividly described by Dante. There are other descriptions of different models of Earth or many earths and each with domes over them. Whatever the ancient description may be, none of them in any way represent a scientific fact or reality.I agree with you that its about what the people can see or what can be known through human observation. But its also talking about what is in our domain (ie solar system) There are seven planets besides Earth. Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus and Neptune. These represent seven major orbits.