EINSTEIN QUOTE: ?If at first, the idea is not absurd, then there is no hope for"
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Salam
I hope I will not bore you with a long presentation.
This area is intended to be free and personal and i will expose my own vision of Islam.I am born in Muslim-Sunni environment and i have scientific background.
I rejected Hadiths long time ago. It was very easy.
I tried to reject objectively Quran but I didn?t succeed.I stayed many years in doubt without knowing if Quran was really words of God or not.
Some interpretations disturbed me very much (they were in fact bad understanding) and i never succeeded to follow what i considered stupid rites. Even if Satan whispered to me that a good Muslim has to apply without thinking or trying to discuss what ?big scientists? of Islam agreed, i didn?t succeed to accept the idea that i have to become stupid and brainless when i enter in the religion field.
Definitively, the creator of universe cannot ask us to do foolish things and to be stupid.Some times ago, I decided to study again the question. The main reason is that i understood that without God, life has no sense, really no sense.
The web site of Rashad Khalifa followers was very interesting for me. I found there a complete new vision of Islam. It was a an opportunity for me to ask myself new questions and I discovered that my understanding of Islam was totally wrong. I discovered also there that the Muslims that I thought are the best Muslims are in fact the worst.However, I succeeded rapidly to reject also Rashad Khalifa theory.
So, the main question was Where is the truth?One night, I had the stupid idea to look at the sky and ask for something like this
?GOD, I finally understood that I understood nothing. Wherever I look, I see lies.
I know that you exist and I am now convinced that Quran is your words. I understood also that i should not have faith in other words than yours.
However, sincerely, I have many difficulties to grasp Quran. There are many things i didn?t understand.
Please, GOD, increase my knowledge. You told that you will do it if we asked you for that. I understood that without your help, I can?t understand anything. GOD, I ask for your help?Since that night, I didn?t stop to discover more and more lies.
Slowly, truth seems to appear to me. Hope I am not wrong.Studying Quran is like studying Science. We have to make hypothesis, make confrontation with facts and verses and then decide if we accept them or reject them. We have to be honest and humble and not to attach to our old convictions and to our own findings. We have also not to believe blindly in another teacher than god. It is Quran advices.
It is perhaps why my posts seem very amazing. I decided to reject all what is not in the Quran or what is not proved and I am open to any theory whatever strange or stupid it would be.
Fortunately, I discovered this forum where I found the strangest people in the world.
I have to make a special thanks to strangest contributors as Pazuzu, Layth, Ayman and others who brought to us new elements and facts from history and serious studies. Of course, there are still many mistakes but science without mistakes doesn?t exist.
I want to make special thanks to the unknown author of this shocking article http//free-minds.org/true-testimony
When we accept the collapse of the first pillar of so called islam, other collapses can follows.Thanks to this forum, i discovered that rejecting hadiths is not sufficient.
I had also to reject all the interpretations of Quran issued from Hadiths. It is much more difficult because they were not easily identifiable and because perversion reached even the meaning of quranic words i thought i had understood.The two first pages of Quran are the more important for me. It is not by accident.
GOD divides humanity in three categories according to 1-717 The path of those You have blessed, not of those who have incurred the wrath, nor the misguided
The second page explain more the 3 categories
The first one is the blessed one23 Those who believe in the unseen, and hold the SALAT, and from Our provisions to them they spend.
The second is, I think, the misguided (or simply the not guided at all)
26 As for those who reject, whether you warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.
And the Third is, I think, the one who incurred the wrath
28 And from the people are those who say "We believe in God and in the Last Day," but they are not believers.
29 They seek to deceive God and those who believe, but they only deceive themselves without noticing.Dividing humanity in ?Muslims?, Christians, Jews, atheists, and other kind of human-made groups is a completely wrong vision and false categorization. It is the biggest lie in islam.
It is a cultural division and not a division according to the faith in GOD axis .
Nowhere in Quran it is said that muslims are only the followers of Quran and Muhammad.
It is only said that true believers will recognize it as words of God when they face it. However, cultural and linguistic barriers can make Quran away from some muslims.Quran is only
22 This is the Book in which there is no doubt, a guidance for the righteous.
The aim of the cultural division is explained by GOD here
548 And We have sent down to you the Book with the truth, authenticating what is between your hands of the Book and superseding it. So judge between them by what God has sent down, and do not follow their desires from what has come to you of the truth. For each of you We have made laws, and a structure; and if God had willed, He would have made you all one nation, but He tests you with what He has given you; so strive to do good. To God you will return all of you, and He will inform you regarding that in which you dispute.
It is clear that nations that were given the quran are not guaranteed to win the race of who are the best Muslims.
Real Muslims (or GOD Submitters) are disseminated between Jews, Christians, now called Muslims, and others.
Admitting that the group of humans in witch I was born was not the best ?Muslim to god? group is the biggest discovery I made. Objectively, nowadays Muslims are in a cultural darkness.
?Official history? of Islam, as in Quran, ends with Muhammad. For sectarians Muslims, it starts with Muhammad and incorporates a huge quantity of human garbage.Quran says that it corrects and confirms Injeel and Torah. They are called book by Quran even if we are told that humans had modified them. Torah and Injeel had never been cancelled by Quran and true Muslims have to study them after taking into account Quran corrections. How they have been modified is full of lessons. This matter is accepted by many sincere Jews an sincere Christians. We should not throw torah and injeel dogmatically.
History and science are a hidden Quran. Understanding islam is understanding all God creation and not only Quran. It is why, I think, the word ?ayat? in quran is used not only for verses.
I hope I am in the right path (sirat mostaqim as in 16) and I ask GOD to show me a better path if I am wrong. Unfortunately, i know that I will be fully informed only in the thereafter.
Until that moment, the biggest danger for a believer is shirk (idolatry, association).
Shirk is simply, for me, to attribute to God what he didn?t? say or want.
Shirk begins when we identifies ourselves in priority to a human-made cultural division.
I think GOD will forgive little quantity of Shirk because elevating spiritually over his own culture is so difficult.
It is why I choose noshirk as pseudonym.
Hope GOD will help me to avoid this trap.Peace
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Salam, brother.
I see where you are coming from. And yes, we have been lied to. The more you read and research, the more you begin to see lies everywhere. We have been lied to by the diabolical triangle of Politicians-Clergy-Rich Elite, and I am amazed at the level of stupidity of most human beings, who still haven't realized that their governments do not give a damn about them or their future.
Incidently, since you mentioned Einstein, there is another famous quote he once made "Two things seem to me as infinite The universe, and human stupidity. Though I'm not so sure about the universe".
This world is being governed by occult-obssessed and luciferian jackasses who use symbolism and mind control everywhere, and who have been deceiving humanity for ages untold. It is really amazing when you think how easily humans can be manipulated into believing something is true, despite glaring evidence that it's not. (They make fun of me when I tell them that man never landed on the moon, and that it was all shot in a studio).
Everywhere you go, you hear the delusional motto "Islam is the Solution!" As if they even know what Islam is. They think Pray more, build more mosques, convince more people to fast Ramadan, and force more women to wear the headscarf, and that will solve all of humanity's problems. They have basically taken "Islam" as a set of rituals and dress code. And when you ask them what the word means, they usually say it means "submission" or "surrender" to Allah. But is that really what Allah wants? Does He want humanity to surrender ? Or maybe we're missing something? The truth is that this Islam they boast of is incapable of building a progressive human society. Look all across the so-called "Islamic" world, from Pakistan to Morroco, and you will see what state they are in. So where is the credibility of Allah's promise?
Fortunately, I discovered this forum where I found the strangest people in the world
Well, they say real life is stranger than fiction. And the story of how Allah's DEEN was hijacked is actually stranger than anything that fiction could ever imagine.
Stick around, because what's coming is even greater. We've just begun to scratch the surface.
Peace...
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Hey noshirk,
Wonderful post! I can relate totally to all you are saying. I read that you have decided to ask/pray/desire for truth for no other reason than that it is the truth... for the sake of itself. Reality is reality. I think this approach is one of great success!!
Peace!
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Man didn't land on the moon? I didn't know this. A few days ago, someone had a conversation with me about mind control and it seems fascinating. I definitely want to research more into that.
Thank you "noshirk". This is a truly wonderful post and it mirrors my sentiments too. All the best to you, Brother.
Salaam.
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(They make fun of me when I tell them that man never landed on the moon, and that it was all shot in a studio).
They left mirrors which lasers are used to ping them, get accurate measurements.
http//mindblowingscience.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/mirrors-on-the-moon.jpg
The company I work for makes possible these Mars rover pictures that you see...
http//www.egyptindependent.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/highslide_full/photo/2012/08/05/54605/mars.jpg.crop_display.jpg
There is no conspiracy only a mindset or complex due to ignorance and denial.
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There is no conspiracy only a mindset or complex due to ignorance and denial.
I think there are plenty of quite real conspiracies in this world, but faking the Apollo program wasn't one of them.
Here's a somewhat relevant thread
http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601856.0 -
I think there are plenty of quite real conspiracies in this world, but faking the Apollo program wasn't one of them.
Of course not; there were too many scientists working on the program which I spoke to one of them who designed the camera/optics and issues involved and communists during cold war would've called them out.
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Of course not; there were too many scientists working on the program which I spoke to one of them who designed the camera/optics and issues involved and communists during cold war would've called them out.
I think it would be hard to commit any major conspiracy in a society as open as the U.S. (provided we ignore stuff like the ongoing plot to funnel all wealth in the world to a very small number of individuals).
There's also pictures like this (Apollo 14 landing site photographed from lunar orbit)http//i.imgur.com/8lOw0.jpg
You can even see the trail they made walking to the crater and back!