Saying Ameen after Al-Fatihah
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Peace Zulf,
That was my understanding also, that amen or ameen means "let it be so." I feel more compelled to say it at the end of the prayer to be honest...it just feels like it completes it for me.
Thanks everyone for your answers.
Amina
If you feel "compelled" than that is not the right way to use your mind and approach God with sincerity! Denotes automatism as in robots.
Also, that word is not part of the Qur'an and during the salat one should BUT say words of the Qur'an only!!!
Salat is different from Dua, in dua you can say whatever you want and mumble whatever... -
If you feel "compelled" than that is not the right way to use your mind and approach God with sincerity! Denotes automatism as in robots.
Also, that word is not part of the Qur'an and during the salat one should BUT say words of the Qur'an only!!!
Salat is different from Dua, in dua you can say whatever you want and mumble whatever...What if dua is part of my salaat...can I say it then? Or am I doing it "wrong?"
And am I to understand that salaat is simply a recitation of the Qu'ran verses an actual prayer?
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Salams )
Well, the only time where i read Ameen, is in the Bible, not in the Quran.
The Quran is not missing anything 638..... And is it not the meaning of Ameen quite blasphemous? are you you demanding God Almighty to "SO BE IT" !???
God already assures us that he will answer our prayers 4060.... [This might be limited and according to his will... (e.g if you pray for wings to fly, that might just never happen etc)For salat, this would be my approach,
(Part 1 Positions & How many Rak'a?)
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzoaS43fOew&feature=plcp
(Part 2 Prerequisites, Manners, and what to say)
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOzex4NRl_s&feature=plcp
(Part 3) How Many Salats Are there? 3 Salat Theory)
http//www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MX7Diab4Tg&feature=plcpHELPFUL WEBSITES
http//www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/al-salat_(P1192).html
http//www.detailedquran.com/quran_data/Salaat%20in%20the%20Quran.htm
http//www.islamrevolution.org/salaatinthequran.htm
http//www.islamrevolution.org/salaatsummary.htm -
Salaam sister,
What if I say that your dua is your sallaat...
I think I need to find out what salaat really is...or means.
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i think i read somewhere maybe even here that some people are very skeptical about finalizing prayers with 'amen' because its possible the word was implanted into early jewish scriptures because they learned the word back in the times they were enslaved in egypt. http//www.touregypt.net/amen.htm there is an egyptian pagan god amen ra and thats where the word came from. i take it with a grain of salt and i dont judge others who say a prayer and end with amen, although since im not sure for myself i have been trying to break out of the habit as when i was with the chriistian growing up it became habit.
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i think i read somewhere maybe even here that some people are very skeptical about finalizing prayers with 'amen' because its possible the word was implanted into early jewish scriptures because they learned the word back in the times they were enslaved in egypt. http//www.touregypt.net/amen.htm there is an egyptian pagan god amen ra and thats where the word came from. i take it with a grain of salt and i dont judge others who say a prayer and end with amen, although since im not sure for myself i have been trying to break out of the habit as when i was with the chriistian growing up it became habit.
Peace newform,
I can definitely understand not wanting to do something that is not permissible or mentioned in the Qu'ran...isn't that how most sects got into the mess they are in now...accepting practices that weren't originally from God?
I have heard of this amen ra story...interestingly enough my husband (who follows the sunni path) is the one who told me about it. I would have never thought to make that connection though. Thanks for sharing.
Amina
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Amina,
I think Shia Muslims do NOT say ameen at all -
My point is NOT whether 'ameen' is "part" of a surah or part of 'what to say'. I think that you may say whatever you wish when you communicate with your creator in a verbal form. So naturally if you can say anything you want to express, then it must be ok to say 'ameen' as well. Why have restrictions? I feel that restrictions on what to say just makes it all into scripts to recite... and the spirit and life of your communication is greatly cut down.
I so agree with this! handshake
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I can definitely understand not wanting to do something that is not permissible or mentioned in the Qu'ran...isn't that how most sects got into the mess they are in now...accepting practices that weren't originally from God?
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Yes naturally, we don't want to do things that are not permissible by the quran. But what are those things? Are there restrictions on what things we can 'say'? The only things I can think of would be giving undue praise to like dead people and such. But the word 'ameen' is just a word that emphasizes that one really wants that which was expressed in the prayer.
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Things are getting tricky when we say we don't want to do things which are not in the quran. It depends totally what we mean by that. I also agree that sects (sub-sects of religions), and religions overall (which are in reality sects of humanity) did indeed arise due to that different practices where formalized and institutionalized. But to say that we should not use the word 'ameen' just because it is not in the quran may not be very consistent with reality. We must decide what occasions we are talking about. If we think that we are supposed to recite x number of ayats from the quran in our prayers, then I guess we should not use 'ameen', but we also have to make sure we aren't using any other things that are not written in the quran then, for consistency. It all depends on how one defines and understands 'salaat'. As far as 'dua' in concerned, of course it is totally ok to use 'ameen'... depending on your understanding of the word and why you use it. But to discourage the use of it solely on the basis that it is found in jewish sources, that is to me just the same old sectish style of labeling things as 'theirs' or 'ours', which leads to separation and sects.
So the bottom line about 'ameen' actually has everything to do with 'salaat'. First we need to gain an understanding about what 'salaat' is, and then we see if 'ameen' fits in somewhere or not.
Peace to all
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