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Salaam, I'm new, discovered Quranism a few days ago, I know its real.

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    good_logic
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    Peace all.

    Those who think there will be no messengers after Mohammed, better heed the warning from the Qoran.

    A believing man among Pharaoh's people, who was concealing his belief, said, "How can you kill a man just for saying, `My Lord is God,' and he has shown you clear proofs from your Lord? If he is a liar, that is his problem, and if he is truthful, you benefit from his promises. Surely, God does not guide any transgressor, liar.

    Who is the Last Messenger?*
    A Tragic Human Trait
    4034
    Joseph had come to you before that with clear revelations, but you continued to doubt his message. Then, when he died you said, "God will not send any other messenger after him. (He was the last messenger)!"** God thus sends astray those who are transgressors, doubtful.

    *4034 The Jews refused to believe in the Messiah when he came to them, the Christians refused to believe in Muhammad when he came to them, and a majority of today's Muslims believe that Muhammad was the last messenger. On that erroneous basis, they refused to accept God's Messenger of the Covenant. We learn from 381-90 and 337 that those who fail to accept the Quranic injunction to ``believe in and support God's Messenger of the Covenant'' are no longer believers.

    4035
    They argue against God's revelations, without any basis. This is a trait that is most abhorred by God and by those who believe. God thus seals the hearts of every arrogant tyrant.

    Study Qoran and double check. There are plenty of signs that GOD has sent proof!.

    Peace.

    Peace.

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      youssef4342
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      Peace be with you as well

      Welcome

      Know that God has a system of Guidance, you did not come here by chance...I have tried to compile this system in
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603904.0

      Recommended readings
      Why language is irrelevant!
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603266.0
      The Original purpose of our creation
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603282.0
      God's System of Righteousness (The Reward system for those who are Nice/Benevolent)
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602900
      God's Systems of Guidance and Misguidance
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603904.0
      7 "Hells", 2 Heavens, and a "Purgatory"
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603259
      ~ God's Unconnditional servants ~
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603053

      Groups/sites/resources etc

      Uniting Muslims who follow the Quran alone (submitters &#1606
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/310518545650653/edit/

      ICRQS - Restoration of Quran AS Sunnah
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/HadithMeansTerrorism/

      Quranology Discussions
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/quranology/

      The Quranic perspective
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/279024998781095/

      SUBMISSION
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/submitters2GodAlone/

      Toluislam
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/toluislam/

      The Quranists' Space
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/quranistsspace/

      Community Buildings Projects for Muslims who want to follow the Quran Alone
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/201443636624681/

      Soumis a Dieu Seul
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/243997725633969/378307658869641

      Forums
      www.Free-minds.org/forum (Recommended for discussions etc)
      Ourbeacon forum

      WEBSITES
      www.Quran-Islam.org (as an intro)
      www.Quransmessage.com (articles +)
      www.progressive-muslim.org/ (articles +)
      http//learn-about-islam.com/
      http//www.detailedquran.com/
      http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/

      www.Ourbeacon.com
      www.ProgressiveMuslims.Org
      www.ahl-alquran.com/
      www.19.org

      (See also http//free-minds.org/links)

      Tools
      http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp (Arabic Quran root words )
      http//haqeeqat.org.pk
      www.Tanzil.net (search tool, go to verse, recitation )
      http//www.studyquran.co.uk/SearchByRoot.htm (English Quran root words)

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        Steven_James
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        Thank you for the warm welcome and kind words

        And about Good Logic's statement I agree.

        Allah says Muhammad is the last prophet. He makes no mention of a final messenger, leaving the window open for one or more messengers to come after Muhammad.

        A prophet as described by the Qur'an brings a scripture, a messenger confirms the existing scripture.

        Insha'Allah I will be online and active and join in with discussion - I use libraries and internet cafes to get online, unless I'm visiting someone with an internet connection, so my time online is limited, but insha'Allah I will be active.

        Critial thinking and mathematics is something I have excelled in since a young age (long life story, I won't speak it now) - also I have never had formal teaching on "how to think" or "very advanced maths" - again long story. (insha'Allah I will have chances to share my stories with you, and you share yours with me)

        However, after not being in a school environment for 7 years, it is something I'm rusty on, but looking to take up study and practice, so insha'Allah I will benefit from being here and you will benefit from me being here - I look forward to getting to know you guys and girls better.

        Peace.

        P.S - Your post, Youssef came up while I was writing this one - Thank you for sharing those links, insha'Allah I will read them when I have time

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          mmkhan
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          Salaam S.James,

          welcome to the path of Allah brother.

          May Allah bless you, help you and fill your life with happiness and peace pr
          mmKhan

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            Seeker_of_the_true_light
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            Salaam and welcome, welcome

            Like you, I too felt that people were praising our prophet Muhammad more than they were praising god. And watching the way they were putting Muhammad's name next to god's name. I was told when you start your prayer, you praise Muhammad first and then his family and the other prophets.

            Seeking knowledge is a good thing (the true path that god wants us to follow). I'm reading the Quran every day, bit by bit, not rushing. Like I said seeking knowledge is a good thing, however it's how we use it is what we got to watch. I've watched people with knowledge in Islam who then alter it for their own benefits.

            May god bless us all and guide us in the right path.

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              JLM
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              Salaam.

              Seems you had many of the same issues I had although I'm an ex-shia. With the Qur'an alone path I can say I'm finally at peace, Masha'Allah.

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                Bender
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                Salaam brother handshake and welcome to the forum

                but ever since a young age I figured things out for myself instead of blindly following

                I think most of us on this forum (probably everybody) have this in common. We try to figure things out for ourselves.

                Salaam,
                Bender

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                  Steven_James
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                  Once again, thank you all for the kind words and warm welcomes.

                  Praise be to Allah, since this enlightening discovery, I have been reading more Qur'an than ever before in my life. May Allah increase us in guidence and knowledge.

                  I look forward to chatting more with you guys and girls, peace be upon you all. ;D

                  Peace,
                  Steven

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                    DaresBears
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                    Strange question Steven, how do you manage to be 22 living in the UK and not drinking Alcohol? I'm a white convert, I don't have many friends because all they want to do is go out and drink, i didn't even like alcohol before i converted. Do you have the same problem?

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                      Steven_James
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                      Well, it's taken me a little while to get to this point D

                      I wouldn't say I don't have any friends - but certainly I do not see a lot of them for the same reason, they go out and drink, I do not go and drink lol.

                      Peace bro,
                      Steven

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                        morninglight
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                        Peace and welcome. welcome peace

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                          mmkhan
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                          I wouldn't say I don't have any friends - but certainly I do not see a lot of them for the same reason, they go out and drink, I do not go and drink lol.

                          Salaam Steven,

                          Your friends GO OUT and DRINK but you DO NOT GO but DRINK? lol.

                          mmKhan

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                            Steven_James
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                            Salaam Steven,

                            Your friends GO OUT and DRINK but you DO NOT GO but DRINK? lol.

                            mmKhan

                            LOL... No, I do not go out, as in I do not go out clubbing, or to pubs etc. and I do not drink, as in I do not drink alcoholic drinks. (Smart arse's P)

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                              DaresBears, do you not go to pubs or clubs at all then?

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                                DaresBears
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                                DaresBears, do you not go to pubs or clubs at all then?

                                Never clubs, sometimes i end up in pubs but i just have a coke or something and it's awkward.
                                It's really hard to be social in a country where everything almost completely revolves around drinking.

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                                  Never clubs, sometimes i end up in pubs but i just have a coke or something and it's awkward.
                                  It's really hard to be social in a country where everything almost completely revolves around drinking.

                                  I know what you mean by the social culture being driven around the consumption of alcohol-and in such excess, might I add! I don't mix in those circles so anymore, but I know when I was a student I never felt pressurised to drink nor did I have the desire to do so. I did find, however, having grown up in a Muslim family, I was very conscious of being around alcohol and very cautious to avoid anything I deemed as "contamination", but the farther into my student life (which was a very long time ago now!), the less aware and averse I became to it. Nowadays, I very very occasionally have frequented a pub/ night club with work colleagues ("socialising&quot, but I don't enjoy the environment as it is something I have actively avoided in the main for the last six years.

                                  Anyway, hold strong in what you beleive in and I hope I can do the same, insh'Allah.

                                  Peace.

                                  Sajda.

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                                    Jafar
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                                    It's really hard to be social in a country where everything almost completely revolves around drinking.

                                    Count your blessings, try living in Russia.. LOL
                                    welcome welcome

                                    Salam / Peace

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                                      Karimah
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                                      Welcome to Free Minds and thanks for sharing your story. Been hanging around for a few months myself... maybe I will get around to introducing myself eventually lol. Anyways man what you said about the praying and shirk really hit home for me. So true!

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                                        Indelwyn
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                                        Welcome

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                                          Released
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                                          Peace!

                                          I have not read all of the contents of this thread. However, I just wanted to welcome you Yes, it's REAL indeed.

                                          DaresBares, I felt the same way before I got married. Now, I mainly just hang out with my hubby and close family. It was really awkward getting together with a group of people because somehow alcohol or some other inappropriateness would enter the scene. sigh

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