turning towards masjid al haram or not?
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Shatra.
According to lanes and other dictioneries it can mean to half,devide,seperate,disassociate,withdraw.
So do we turn towards Haram or away from it?
If we take it as Br. Ayman said that Almasjid Alharam means "Submissions the forbidden" it does work turning away from , but when we take it to mean a buliding you can never always turn towards or away from it - you can find many examples.
hmm
2149
From whencesoever Thou startest forth, turn Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; that is indeed the truth from the Lord. And Allah is not unmindful of what ye do.2150
So from whencesoever Thou startest forth, turn Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; and wheresoever ye are, Turn your face thither that there be no ground of dispute against you among the people, except those of them that are bent on wickedness; so fear them not, but fear Me; and that I may complete My favours on you, and ye May (consent to) be guided;peace
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Shatra.
According to lanes and other dictioneries it can mean to half,devide,seperate,disassociate,withdraw.
So do we turn towards Haram or away from it?
If we take it as Br. Ayman said that Almasjid Alharam means "Submissions the forbidden" it does work turning away from , but when we take it to mean a buliding you can never always turn towards or away from it - you can find many examples.
hmm
2149
From whencesoever Thou startest forth, turn Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; that is indeed the truth from the Lord. And Allah is not unmindful of what ye do.2150
So from whencesoever Thou startest forth, turn Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; and wheresoever ye are, Turn your face thither that there be no ground of dispute against you among the people, except those of them that are bent on wickedness; so fear them not, but fear Me; and that I may complete My favours on you, and ye May (consent to) be guided;peace
http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mizrah
http//www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=1353
2.145 Even if thou wert to bring to the people of the Book all the Signs (together), they would not follow Thy Qibla; nor art thou going to follow their Qibla; nor indeed will they follow each other's Qibla. If thou after the knowledge hath reached thee, Wert to follow their (vain) desires,-then wert thou Indeed (clearly) in the wrong.
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Salam
turning towards east= facing Jesus
turning towards Jerusalem= facing the holy land
turning towards masjid al haram= turning to quran (just- where or what is this masjid al haram?)so then each turns into a community focus, which represent something. And the answer from Allah "where do you you turn, there you will find the face of God ...."(approximate translation) and "Allah is the light from the heavens and the earth..."
the Quibla is secondary and not mandatory in my understanding ....
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The Masjid al haram - the only time the prophet entered it was when in war according to the quran and at no other time. What do warriors enter into at times of war? and you don't enter into at all other times.
In 2225 the people are forced to sway from the way of Allah to Almasjid alharam. Masjid alharam is full of haram vices. hmm
Inna allatheena kafaroo wayasuddoonaAAan sabeeli Allahi waalmasjidi alharamiallathee jaAAalnahu lilnnasi sawaanalAAakifu feehi waalbadi waman yurid feehibi-ilhadin bithulmin nuthiqhu min AAathabinaleemin
Yousuf Ali As to those who have rejected (Allah), and would keep back (men) from the Way of Allah, and from the Sacred Mosque, which We have made (open) to (all) men - equal is the dweller there and the visitor from the country - and any whose purpose therein is profanity or wrong-doing - them will We cause to taste of a most Grievous Penalty.
should be something like;(changing wa to "to" as in 2217)
As to those who have rejected (Allah), and would keep back (men) from the Way of Allah to The Masjid Al Haram, which We have made (open) to (all) men - equal is the dweller there and the visitor from the country - and any whose purpose therein is profanity or wrong-doing - them will We cause to taste of a most Grievous Penalty.
The wa isn?t always ?and? -
Example;
Yas-aloonaka AAani alshshahri alharamiqitalin feehi qul qitalun feehi kabeerun wasaddunAAan sabeeli Allahi wakufrun bihi waalmasjidi alharamiwa-ikhraju ahlihi minhu akbaru AAinda Allahi waalfitnatuakbaru mina alqatli wala yazaloona yuqatiloonakumhatta yaruddookum AAan deenikum ini istataAAoowaman yartadid minkum AAan deenihi fayamut wahuwa kafirunfaola-ika habitat aAAmaluhum fee alddunyawaal-akhirati waola-ika as-habualnnari hum feeha khalidoona
Yousuf Ali They ask thee concerning fighting in the Prohibited Month. Say "Fighting therein is a grave (offence); but graver is it in the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the Sacred Mosque, and drive out its members." Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you Turn back from their faith and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the Hereafter; they will be companions of the Fire and will abide therein.
peace