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Different Muslim Sects made me think

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    zenje
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    Salaam Kashif and welcome to the forum,

    Thank you for sharing your story and research. All I can say is don't stop verifying and learning the truth. God's words and His guidance is all we really need.

    Peace and God bless. )

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      Wakas
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      peace Kashif,

      Welcome to the forum brother.

      It is an excellent question you are asking. In fact, it is one of the early questions I asked myself. You can read about it here

      http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37

      Wakas

      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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        Peace be upon you,

        Therefore, congratulate My servants who listen to all views, then follow the best. These are the ones guided by God; these are the intelligent ones. (Quran, 3917-1

        Congatulations Kashif!! Welcome to a garden where rivers flow beneath. Remember to reach back and pull some others with you or at least give them some seeds from your garden.

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          unknownuser
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          Peace Kashif,

          oops Where are my manners gone suddenly, intrigued by Bro Kyle's analysis, welcome to the forum D

          Welcome to a garden where rivers flow beneath

          Peace Kyle,

          You lost me there, how did you come to this conclusion? Are you implying jannat or figure of speech?

          Regards

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            Tay
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            Peace brother Kashif,

            Welcome and thanks for sharing.

            What happen after two hundreds years??

            This is the question that got my juices flowing also. Congratulations on your vision. It's amazing how once you shift your awareness, you see the world in whole new light. Looking forward to exchanging thoughts.

            May peace be upon you,
            Tay

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              Kashif
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              Salam,

              Thank you all of u guys responses.

              After study the Quran and personal research, I have taken Quran as my sole guidance and devoted my prayers only to ONE GOD as commanded in the Quran.

              Like everybody else who has taken a Quran as a sole guidance, there exits a strong oppostion out there for me, but God willing I will stay on the truth.

              One thing I want to share with you guys, I noticed in my personal life as well on some of thread discussions, some time we are not CLEAR in our positon when we say we reject ALL HADITH AND SUNNAH. This make a strong sunni person mad as they think we do not believe in Propet Muhmmad (pbup) teaching. We should be really clear on that subject because we do believe in Propet's hadith and Sunnah. The difference between us and them is that we get our hadith and sunnah from the GOD's book and they get their's in man made books. As soon as they get this idea that we have rejected Propet Muhammad (pbup) they will block their mind. I am sure you guys would be agree in order to see true Quranic guidance our mind have to be FREE of any biased thoughts.

              anyway just my humble opinion.

              I will end with this Aya

              "Let there be a community among you who call to the good, enjoin the right, and forbid the wrong. They are the ones who have success" (Qur'an, 3104).

              Thanks and May Allah give all of us true guidance
              Kashif

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                unknownuser
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                Peace Kashif,

                I think they know we get our hadith from the Qur'an but from the unfamiliar its possibly a rhetorical way of diverting attention. Since they can't defeat arguments they attempt to attack credibility. This is what hypocrites do.

                Their minds are not blocked because of what we say but because they do not follow the Qur'an truthfully by contradicting it when its says its fully detailed and complete.

                Regards

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                  unknownuser
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                  Peace be upon you Ash shura,

                  Peace Kyle,

                  You lost me there, how did you come to this conclusion? Are you implying jannat or figure of speech?

                  (225) And announce good news (to) those who believe and did/made the correct/righteous deeds, that to them (are) gardens the rivers flow from beneath it.

                  I take the garden as a state of mind (everything is of mental nature proven by science). It starts in this illusion of life and will continue as long as we die in a state of submission.

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                    Ansar
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                    Salam All,

                    May Allah give guidance to all of us
                    Kashif

                    Read this

                    A Flash through the Formation of the Sects
                    http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2316&highlight=sects

                    Also remember that the idea's of the people behind free-minds.org never existed in the history of islam.

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                      mquran
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                      Salaam,

                      Ansar Also remember that the idea's of the people behind free-minds.org never existed in the history of islam

                      Yes, and in the 'history of islam', AISHA , ALI , TALHA AND ZUBAIR , 4 ppl included in the 9/100 verse if history is to be believed, went to war with each other and talhah and zubair were KILLED ! So much for the loving sahaba stuff. Sunni history was written to denigrate the personalities of Muhammadan history but no matter. We still have the protected source.

                      To hell with his-story, lets focus on OUR stories !

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                        unknownuser
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                        Also remember that the idea's of the people behind free-minds.org never existed in the history of islam.

                        Ansar,

                        How do you prove that statement of yours? Do you think just because you "assertively" say it makes it the truth?

                        What we know is at the time of Mohammad there was one rule book and no Messrs Bukhari et al...

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                          marie
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                          Also remember that the idea's of the people behind free-minds.org never existed in the history of islam.

                          Ansar,

                          How do you prove that statement of yours? Do you think just because you "assertively" say it makes it the truth?

                          What we know is at the time of Mohammad there was one rule book and no Messrs Bukhari et al...

                          Bukhari et al speak about that of which they have no knowledge and they follow conjecture (1736)

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                            zenje
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                            Salaam all,

                            You know, I was going to put a side note, when welcoming Kashif... ...watch out for Ansar's post, he's going to say free-minds.org never existed in history! lol

                            Predictable to the letter! roll

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                              burhan
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                              Also remember that the idea's of the people behind free-minds.org never existed in the history of islam.

                              A certain Arab prophet used to get the same argument from his people aswell.

                              387 "We never heard of this from the people before us. This is but an innovation."

                              Even though the likes of Adam, Noah and Abraham had been around in the past.

                              peace.

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                                zenje
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                                Good point burhan,

                                Even though the likes of Adam, Noah and Abraham had been around in the past.

                                ... And preaching the same basic message. )

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