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Life after death and back again.

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    Ruuube
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    I've noticed in the Qur'an that life is described as a repeat occurrence, I.E, you live, you are judged and from that judgment you either are reborn in the earth or continue to live in eternity (in the heavens.)

    I was recently reading Surah 30 which hints at this;

    3055 - And on the day when the Hour riseth the guilty will vow that they did tarry but an hour - thus were they ever deceived.
    3056 - But those to whom knowledge and faith are given will say The truth is, ye have tarried, by Allah's decree, until the Day of Resurrection. This is the Day of Resurrection, but ye used not to know.

    This seems to imply that those 'whom knowledge and faith are given' witnessed the guilty from a different plane of existence, which suggests to me there are 3 main 'planes of existence', one being the Earth and that which is near to it? The second being the heavens, and the third being the hereafter. -- Not to say that's all that there is, just that this is all I have observed.

    It would also tie into that which was mentioned in 238,

    238 - We said Go down, all of you, from hence; but verily there cometh unto you from Me a guidance; and whoso followeth My guidance, there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

    'Go down, all of you, from hence' to me suggests that the heavens were our place of residence up until the time Adam was created, but if we are all sons of Adam then either my logic is faulty or we have been looking at the Qur'an slightly incorrectly. It also mentions, 'neither shall they grieve', meaning those who understand the reminder (the Qur'an) will understand the 'life cycle' and as such will have no reason to grieve knowing what happens to a soul after death.

    My questions are, has anyone else noticed this? Also, can anyone show me contradictory evidence, that would be quite nice to see so I can further my research.

    Peace be upon all of you.

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      Salam Ruube
      the question arise where is the garden?
      an interesting article i found
      http//quransmessage.com/articles/adam%20and%20jannah%20FM3.htm

      from the quran it seems that the garden was on earth, not in space

      238 We said, "Descend from it all of you, so when the guidance comes from Me, then whoever follows My guidance, they will have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve."
      The Monotheist Group
      238 We said "Descend from it all of you, so when the guidance comes from Me, then whoever follows My guidance, they will have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve."
      Muhammad Asad
      238 We did say, "Down with you all from this ," there shall, none the less, most certainly come unto you guidance from Me and those who follow My guidance need have no fear, and neither shall they grieve;
      Rashad Khalifa
      238 We said, "Go down therefrom, all of you. When guidance comes to you from Me, those who follow My guidance will have no fear, nor will they grieve.
      Shabbir Ahmed
      238 We said, "For now, all of you are degraded to a lower level of existence, out of this state of felicity (Paradise). But, when guidance comes to you from Me, those who will follow My guidance, on them shall be no fear from without, nor shall they have any grief from within." 31

      here the root and his explanation

      ha-Ba-Tay = to go forth, descend, cause to come down, descend from a high state to a low one, move from one place to another, enter into, change in condition, come forth from, become low, degraded.

      this must not necessarily mean come down from a high place (heaven)to a lower place (earth)

      And Allahu alem
      Salams )

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        'Go down, all of you, from hence' to me suggests that the heavens were our place of residence up until the time Adam was created, but if we are all sons of Adam then either my logic is faulty or we have been looking at the Qur'an slightly incorrectly. It also mentions, 'neither shall they grieve', meaning those who understand the reminder (the Qur'an) will understand the 'life cycle' and as such will have no reason to grieve knowing what happens to a soul after death.

        Peace Ruuube,

        You mentioned 238 and missed 230 )

        230
        230 And when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make in the earth a Khalifa." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know."

        May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
        mmKhan

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          here the root and his explanation

          ha-Ba-Tay = to go forth, descend, cause to come down, descend from a high state to a low one, move from one place to another, enter into, change in condition, come forth from, become low, degraded.

          this must not necessarily mean come down from a high place (heaven)to a lower place (earth)

          Salaam mirjamnur,

          Red part Correct!!!

          261
          261 And remember ye said "O Moses! we cannot endure one kind of food; so beseech thy Lord for us to produce for us of what the earth groweth, -its pot-herbs, and cucumbers, Its garlic, lentils, and onions." He said "Will ye exchange the better for the worse? You descent to any town, and ye shall find what ye want!" They were covered with humiliation and misery; they drew on themselves the wrath of Allah. This because they went on rejecting the Signs of Allah and slaying His Messengers without just cause. This because they rebelled and went on transgressing.

          1148
          1148 It was said O Noah! descend with peace from Us and blessings on you and on the people from among those who are with you, and there shall be nations whom We will afford provisions, then a painful punishment from Us shall afflict them.

          Noah was asked to descend from ship.

          Come down from a high place is called naazil in alQuraan, but that to slowly as per my understanding.

          May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
          mmKhan

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            Salam mmkhan
            Thank you very much for the verses. off topic question there is a (simple ;D) program/software, where i can found same words easy in the Quran, as the example above or etc??
            Thank you for your help!
            Salam

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              Salam mmkhan
              Thank you very much for the verses. off topic question there is a (simple ;D) program/software, where i can found same words easy in the Quran, as the example above or etc??
              Thank you for your help!
              Salam

              Salaam mirjamnur,

              You are very welcome

              There is an online software that you can see by clicking here but you should know how to trace the root from a word.

              InshaAllah, this may help you.

              May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
              mmKhan

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                Salam mmkhan
                thank you )

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                  Salam mmkhan
                  thank you )

                  Salaam mirjamnur,

                  You are welcome handshake

                  Peace,
                  mmKhan

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                    Ruuube
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                    Salam,

                    Thank you so much for the insight guys!

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