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2:184 : need help for correct translation

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    hafeez_kazi
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    peace all

    AYYAAM(AN) MAcDODAAT FA- MAN KAANA MIN -KUM MARED.(AN) 'AW cALAA SAFAR FA- cIDDAH MIN AYYAAM 'UKHAR WA- cALAA 'ALLADHENA YUT.EQON -HU FIDYAH T.AcAAM MISKEN FA- MAN TAT.AWWAcA KHAYR(AN) FA- HUWA KHAYR LA- -HU WA- 'AN TAS.OMO KHAYR LA- -KUM 'IN KUNTUM TAcLAMON 2184

    (Fasting) for a fixed number of days; but if any of you is ill or on a journey the prescribed number (should be made up) from days later. (WA- cALAA 'ALLADHENA YUT.EQON -HU) FOR THOSE WHO CAN DO IT (with hardship) is a ransom the feeding of one that is indigent. But he that will give more of his own free will it is better for him and it is better for you that ye fast if ye only knew 2184

    My translation

    WA- cALAA 'ALLADHENA YUT.EQON -HU FIDYAH T.AcAAM MISKEN

    And for those who (YUT.EQON) CRACKS /BREAKS it, the ransom is the feeding of a poor.

    Does YUT.EQON means HARDSHIP / DIFFICULTY?

    Is my translation correct?

    Thanks

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      unknownuser
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      Salaam Hafeez,

      Taqatun -Ability/power/strength.
      Yutiquna-Those who are able to.
      Taqat-means the utmost that a person can do/do a thing with great difficulty.
      From QD.

      Salaams.

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        hafeez_kazi
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        peace mz357

        With your QD meanings could you please translate this

        WA- cALAA 'ALLADHENA YUT.EQON -HU

        What is FIDYAH = ransom, redemption (from the OMISSION of certain religious duties, by a material donation or ritual act) HANS WEHR DICTIONARY

        IF I KEEP A FAST WITH DIFFICULTY THEN WHY SHOULD I RANSOM BY FEEDING A POOR

        I WILL RANSOM ONLY WHEN I AM UNABLE TO KEEP THE FAST.

        THE PERSON WHO IS FASTING IS VERY POOR AND LIVES ON ALMS, THEN?

        THANKS

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          unknownuser
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          Salaams Hafeez,

          I think the meaning of ransom(=release from captivity(in this case "from fasts")by payment),tell it all.

          Yutiquna=Those who are able to/Those who find extremely hard.

          2184(as i see)

          Days numbered then whoso is of you sick or on journey number(the same) of days other and upon those who find extremely hard,and can afford it ,is release (from the fasts)by feeding (of) a needy person but whoso does voluntarily good it (is) better for him and that you fast is better for you if you know.

          (As i see/understand)

          Salaams.

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            Grourself
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            Peace,

            I can find nothing about this verb that implies difficulty. The utmost is what you can do, anything else would hardship.

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              hafeez_kazi
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              peace Grourself

              You are right. There is no harship or difficulty but the power OR the ability to do it.

              then why RANSOM and for what?

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                Grourself
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                Peace Hafeez,

                In my understanding as you read on you will be told what are the fixed days and who should abstain, why etc. The difficulty comes when this verses and the ones that follow it are taken out of context and we get ahead of ourselves because we have a preconceived idea of what they say.

                BTW, I've sent a copy of your Salat research article to friends and they agree it is brilliant.

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                  unknownuser
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                  PEACE GROURSELF

                  BTW, I've sent a copy of your Salat research article to friends and they agree it is brilliant.

                  How are you doing? Where can I read this research?, thanks.

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                    Idris
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                    peace priest,

                    PEACE GROURSELF

                    BTW, I've sent a copy of your Salat research article to friends and they agree it is brilliant.

                    How are you doing? Where can I read this research?, thanks.

                    http//www.free-minds.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2239

                    right here, i think you might of already read it though

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