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    wrkmmn
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    I came to slm in my search for truth, I was deep in science, but science could not answer my questions, because when you dig deep into it, then you find so many contradictions. when I came to slm it I had already search in the books of most religions of the world. it didn't take me long to find where the books and their followers were wrong. worse of all, what I found as a rule is that in most religions, their followers are not even doing something close to what their books are preaching, so I keep the good things and move on. Then, a few years ago I came to the QRAN, God guides to his light to whomever he wants, after a lot of research and reading a few translations I got to the conclusion that the information in this book could only had come from the creator of life, the omniscient. However, I found the mslm astray running behind a bunch of books called hadiths and sharias, they have fulfill the prophesy that they would trow the book to their backs, they have lost it behind all this mountains of hadiths. I tough, no wonder god is punishing so harsh the mslm in the middle east, and as horribly as he did in bosnia. If you have read the Torah then you know that god never forgives those who fail in obeying him and break their covenant and ally themselves with his enemies. Then I stumble upon you, and it is good to know that at least there is some people who is willing to obey only the word of god and claim that they don't take their liders as teachers besides The All Knowing.

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      AliHuzaifa
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      welcome

      welcome, follow QURAAN AND LIFE OF MUHAMMED(s) there is no contradiction between these two.

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        AliHuzaifa
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        1. By the essence of all time.
        2. Verily, all humankind is in deep loss.
        3. Except those who believed (in the oneness of Allah) and performed good work and reminded each other of the truth and reminded each other to be patient.

        now shine like a sun

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          AliHuzaifa
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          Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish,
          the Christians, and the converts; anyone who
          (1) believes in GOD, and
          (2) believes in the Last Day, and
          (3) leads a righteous life,
          will receive their recompense from their Lord;
          they have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.

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            NOMAD
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            Salaam

            Quran is simple,detailed, and is explained by allah to each one of us if it is that His WILL.. i used to mix hadith with quran during 10 years almost,then todAY make 1 year i know free minds and bealive i learn more in 1 year with Quran alone than all life.. SALAAM and i sugest you to read all topics or major thems with atention.

            MAY ALLAH BLESS YOU AND GUDE YOU pr

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              Released
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              Peace,

              Welcome I hope to see you participating in discussions with us.

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                good_logic
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                Peace wrkmmn

                Welcome to the forum.

                Keep searching.
                God bless you.

                Peace.

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                  Student_of_Allah
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                  Shalom Aleikhem,

                  I came to slm in my search for truth, I was deep in science, but science could not answer my questions, because when you dig deep into it, then you find so many contradictions. when I came to slm it I had already search in the books of most religions of the world. it didn't take me long to find where the books and their followers were wrong. worse of all, what I found as a rule is that in most religions, their followers are not even doing something close to what their books are preaching, so I keep the good things and move on. Then, a few years ago I came to the QRAN, God guides to his light to whomever he wants, after a lot of research and reading a few translations I got to the conclusion that the information in this book could only had come from the creator of life, the omniscient. However, I found the mslm astray running behind a bunch of books called hadiths and sharias, they have fulfill the prophesy that they would trow the book to their backs, they have lost it behind all this mountains of hadiths. I tough, no wonder god is punishing so harsh the mslm in the middle east, and as horribly as he did in bosnia. If you have read the Torah then you know that god never forgives those who fail in obeying him and break their covenant and ally themselves with his enemies. Then I stumble upon you, and it is good to know that at least there is some people who is willing to obey only the word of god and claim that they don't take their liders as teachers besides The All Knowing.

                  Welcome to Free-Minds. )

                  I have one objection, it is about your line of reasoning when it comes to science. Just because science does not have the answer to your question, any other answer does not get validity attributed to it automatically. All claims must stand their ground on their own merits. For example, me being a bad person does not automatically make you a good person. For claiming that, you have to demonstrate why you are good. ) I hope you already know that.

                  1. By the essence of all time.
                  2. Verily, all humankind is in deep loss.
                  3. Except those who believed (in the oneness of Allah) and performed good work and reminded each other of the truth and reminded each other to be patient.

                  now shine like a sun

                  3127 And if all the trees on the earth were made into pens, and the ocean were supplied by seven more oceans, the words of God would not run out. God is Noble, Wise

                  I respect your right to interpret belief the way you stated inside those brackets. Thats reasonable, I am sure you have your reasons for believing that. However, you do not have the right to inject words or entire sentences into the text. By the way, I am not saying that what you wrote inside the bracket is definitely wrong, I am just pointing out that its "your" idea and words, it would be dishonest to pass it down as God's.

                  Peace
                  ------------ Student of Allah

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                    Abdul-Hadi
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                    Greetings and Peace, all group

                    @wrkmmn welcome

                    Science is a useful tool, but it works by being disproven. In a sense, Abraham (peace upon ALL Prophets) uses science in the following ayats

                    675 And it is such that We showed Abraham the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, so that he will be of those who have certainty.

                    676 When the night covered him, he saw a planet, and he said "This is my Lord." But when it disappeared he said "I do not like those who disappear."

                    677 So when he saw the moon rising, he said "This is my Lord." But when it disappeared he said "If my Lord does not guide me, then I will be among the wicked people!"

                    678 So when he saw the sun rising, he said "This is my Lord, this is bigger." But when it disappeared he said "My people, I am innocent of what you have set up."

                    679 "I shall turn my face to the One who initiated the heavens and the earth, in monotheism, and I am not of the polytheists."

                    Science doesn't have laws...only theory. It is not constant, except for constancy in its state of flux. ALLAH gave us science, but ultimately science is part of creation.

                    1736 And do not uphold what you have no knowledge of. For the hearing, eyesight, and heart, all these you are responsible for.

                    2170 And if they are told "Follow what GOD has sent down," they say "No, we will follow what we found our fathers doing!" What if their fathers did not comprehend anything and were not guided?

                    Good science involves not taking things for granted...scepticism. But don't take ~my~ word for it!

                    ALLAH knows best.

                    peace

                    ~Abdul-Hadi

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                      Salaam wrkmmn and welcome to the forum handshake

                      I had a colleague who was an atheist (ex-catholic). He sat at the same desk as mine
                      He always made jokes about God.
                      One day there was a discussion and he said something about The Quran and I said that is not what The Quran says.
                      He wanted to proof me wrong, so he looked up on internet to find the verse he had in mind.
                      After a couple of minutes he still didn't gave me the verse and he was fully concentrated on his screen. I thought he was still searching.
                      So I went to him so that I could help him to find the verse.
                      But it turned out that he already found the verse he was looking for, but he was reading further.
                      He kept reading till he finished the whole chapter.
                      In the end he totally forgot what he wanted to show me.
                      The Dutch translation he read was really horrible but the seriousness and the power of the message had him hail.
                      After a couple of minutes he sended me an email with verses he liked )

                      Since then he never made jokes about God, well he still made jokes about the "god" of the catholics and about Jesus, but never about The God whom he had read in the dutch translation The Quran.

                      Salaam,
                      Bender

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                        3127 And if all the trees on the earth were made into pens, and the ocean were supplied by seven more oceans, the words of God would not run out. God is Noble, Wise

                        I respect your right to interpret belief the way you stated inside those brackets. Thats reasonable, I am sure you have your reasons for believing that. However, you do not have the right to inject words or entire sentences into the text. By the way, I am not saying that what you wrote inside the bracket is definitely wrong, I am just pointing out that its "your" idea and words, it would be dishonest to pass it down as God's.

                        Peace
                        ------------ Student of Allah

                        Salaam,

                        I agree with SoA

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                          youssef4342
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                          Peace & Welcome peace

                          I suggest learning about the mathematical composition/miracle of the Quran, based on the number 19 & the messenger of the covenant.

                          Mathematical Miracle
                          http//www.masjidtucson.org/quran/miracle/index.html

                          Messenger of the Covenant
                          http//www.masjidtucson.org/submission/faq/messenger_of_covenant.html

                          Recommended readings
                          The Original purpose of our creation
                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603282.0
                          God's System of Righteousness (The Reward system for those who are Nice/Benevolent)
                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602900
                          God's Systems of Guidance and Misguidance
                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603904.0
                          Faith without good work is useless!
                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604521
                          7 "Hells", 2 Heavens, and a "Purgatory"
                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603259
                          Forgive & you'll be Forgiven
                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603142
                          God Loves/doesn't Love
                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603058.0
                          ~ God's Unconnditional servants ~
                          http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603053

                          Groups/sites/resources etc
                          Uniting Muslims who follow the Quran alone (submitters &#1606
                          https//www.facebook.com/groups/310518545650653/edit/
                          ICRQS - Restoration of Quran AS Sunnah
                          https//www.facebook.com/groups/HadithMeansTerrorism/
                          Quranology Discussions
                          https//www.facebook.com/groups/quranology/
                          The Quranic perspective
                          https//www.facebook.com/groups/279024998781095/
                          SUBMISSION
                          https//www.facebook.com/groups/submitters2GodAlone/
                          Toluislam
                          https//www.facebook.com/groups/toluislam/
                          The Quranists' Space
                          https//www.facebook.com/groups/quranistsspace/
                          Community Buildings Projects for Muslims who want to follow the Quran Alone
                          https//www.facebook.com/groups/201443636624681/
                          Soumis a Dieu Seul
                          https//www.facebook.com/groups/243997725633969/378307658869641

                          Forums
                          www.Free-minds.org/forum (Recommended for discussions etc)
                          Ourbeacon/Dr Shabbir forum
                          Quransmessage forum

                          WEBSITES

                          www.Masjidtucson.org
                          www.Submission.org
                          www.Quransmessage.com (articles +)
                          www.progressive-muslim.org/ (articles +)
                          http//learn-about-islam.com/
                          http//www.detailedquran.com/
                          http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/
                          www.Ourbeacon.com
                          www.ProgressiveMuslims.Org
                          www.ahl-alquran.com/
                          www.19.org
                          (See also http//free-minds.org/links)

                          Tools
                          http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp (Arabic Quran root words )
                          http//haqeeqat.org.pk
                          www.Tanzil.net (search tool, go to verse, recitation )
                          http//www.studyquran.co.uk/SearchByRoot.htm (English Quran root word)

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                            welcome sun
                            I hope we can Stay longer and sharing more topics here bravo

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