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    AliHuzaifa
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    welcome Praise God for guiding you to the straight path. God is the best provider

    jedi

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      youssef4342
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      Peace & Welcome.
      Brother, do not feel like you're alone. I broke away from my father, he kind of disowned me at some point.
      I went on and off from being homeless for about 5 times, i went though tials and tribulations. But here i am, Thanks be to God, i am alive and now have a living and a job.

      Do pray to God and ask other to pray for you, because this is what i did, and it didn't really get better until i asked others to pray for me, kind of out of desperation.

      I recommend what God submitter put, i also would like to add Masjidtucson.org

      Recommended readings
      The Original purpose of our creation
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603282.0
      God's System of Righteousness (The Reward system for those who are Nice/Benevolent)
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602900
      God's Systems of Guidance and Misguidance
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603904.0
      Faith without good work is useless!
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604521
      7 "Hells", 2 Heavens, and a "Purgatory"
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603259
      Forgive & you'll be Forgiven
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603142
      God Loves/doesn't Love
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603058.0
      ~ God's Unconnditional servants ~
      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603053

      Groups/sites/resources etc
      Uniting Muslims who follow the Quran alone (submitters &#1606
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/310518545650653/edit/
      ICRQS - Restoration of Quran AS Sunnah
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/HadithMeansTerrorism/
      Quranology Discussions
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/quranology/
      The Quranic perspective
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/279024998781095/
      SUBMISSION
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/submitters2GodAlone/
      Toluislam
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/toluislam/
      The Quranists' Space
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/quranistsspace/
      Community Buildings Projects for Muslims who want to follow the Quran Alone
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/201443636624681/
      Soumis a Dieu Seul
      https//www.facebook.com/groups/243997725633969/378307658869641

      Forums
      www.Free-minds.org/forum (Recommended for discussions etc)
      Ourbeacon/Dr Shabbir forum
      Quransmessage forum

      WEBSITES

      www.Masjidtucson.org
      www.Submission.org
      www.Quransmessage.com (articles +)
      www.progressive-muslim.org/ (articles +)
      http//learn-about-islam.com/
      http//www.detailedquran.com/
      http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/
      www.Ourbeacon.com
      www.ProgressiveMuslims.Org
      www.ahl-alquran.com/
      www.19.org
      (See also http//free-minds.org/links)

      Tools
      http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp (Arabic Quran root words )
      http//haqeeqat.org.pk
      www.Tanzil.net (search tool, go to verse, recitation )
      http//www.studyquran.co.uk/SearchByRoot.htm (English Quran root word)

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        AliHuzaifa
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        Peace & Welcome.
        Brother, do not feel like you're alone. I broke away from my father, he kind of disowned me at some point.
        I went on and off from being homeless for about 5 times, i went though tials and tribulations. But here i am, Thanks be to God, i am alive and now have a living and a job.

        Do pray to God and ask other to pray for you, because this is what i did, and it didn't really get better until i asked others to pray for me, kind of out of desperation.

        I recommend what God submitter put, i also would like to add Masjidtucson.org

        Recommended readings
        The Original purpose of our creation
        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603282.0
        God's System of Righteousness (The Reward system for those who are Nice/Benevolent)
        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9602900
        God's Systems of Guidance and Misguidance
        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603904.0
        Faith without good work is useless!
        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9604521
        7 "Hells", 2 Heavens, and a "Purgatory"
        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603259
        Forgive & you'll be Forgiven
        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603142
        God Loves/doesn't Love
        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603058.0
        ~ God's Unconnditional servants ~
        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603053

        Groups/sites/resources etc
        Uniting Muslims who follow the Quran alone (submitters &#1606
        https//www.facebook.com/groups/310518545650653/edit/
        ICRQS - Restoration of Quran AS Sunnah
        https//www.facebook.com/groups/HadithMeansTerrorism/
        Quranology Discussions
        https//www.facebook.com/groups/quranology/
        The Quranic perspective
        https//www.facebook.com/groups/279024998781095/
        SUBMISSION
        https//www.facebook.com/groups/submitters2GodAlone/
        Toluislam
        https//www.facebook.com/groups/toluislam/
        The Quranists' Space
        https//www.facebook.com/groups/quranistsspace/
        Community Buildings Projects for Muslims who want to follow the Quran Alone
        https//www.facebook.com/groups/201443636624681/
        Soumis a Dieu Seul
        https//www.facebook.com/groups/243997725633969/378307658869641

        Forums
        www.Free-minds.org/forum (Recommended for discussions etc)
        Ourbeacon/Dr Shabbir forum
        Quransmessage forum

        WEBSITES

        www.Masjidtucson.org
        www.Submission.org
        www.Quransmessage.com (articles +)
        www.progressive-muslim.org/ (articles +)
        http//learn-about-islam.com/
        http//www.detailedquran.com/
        http//misconceptions-about-islam.com/
        www.Ourbeacon.com
        www.ProgressiveMuslims.Org
        www.ahl-alquran.com/
        www.19.org
        (See also http//free-minds.org/links)

        Tools
        http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp (Arabic Quran root words )
        http//haqeeqat.org.pk
        www.Tanzil.net (search tool, go to verse, recitation )
        http//www.studyquran.co.uk/SearchByRoot.htm (English Quran root word)

        shukran jazakallah dear bro, I will go through all this links on weekends Inshallah

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          AliHuzaifa
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          oh wow, so just tumble upon http//www.masjidtucson.org

          and I am glad to see rashad khalifah is more on Ali ibn Abi talib side (s) , rather then on umar and abu bakar side.

          great....

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            Student_of_Allah
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            Shalom Aleikhem,

            oh wow, so just tumble upon http//www.masjidtucson.org

            and I am glad to see rashad khalifah is more on Ali ibn Abi talib side (s) , rather then on umar and abu bakar side.

            great....

            I have not sided with Ali or Umar/Bakar/et all , what does that make me ?

            Peace
            -------------- Student of Allah

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              AliHuzaifa
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              Shalom Aleikhem,

              I have not sided with Ali or Umar/Bakar/et all , what does that make me ?

              Peace
              -------------- Student of Allah

              that makes u still a student, once you graduate come back to me we shall discuss Ali ibn abi talib (s)

              <wink>

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                Student_of_Allah
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                Shalom Aleikhem,

                that makes u still a student, once you graduate come back to me we shall discuss Ali ibn abi talib (s)

                <wink>

                If your understanding is that upon graduation a person is no longer a student, I would advice you to reinterpret "student". One could go for post graduation studies, M.Phil, PhD, Post doc... and even then... still never finish studying. Take "any" scientist as an example/. The universe contains so much knowledge, it is virtually impossible for a human being to finish studying all.

                But I am glad that I have the intellectual honestly of admitting this fact, thus the gap of my knowledge instead of being like people who claim Mastery but fail to provide any evidence for any claim.

                May God increase us in knowledge and wisdom.

                Peace
                ------------- Student of Allah

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                  AliHuzaifa
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                  Shalom Aleikhem,

                  If your understanding is that upon graduation a person is no longer a student, I would advice you to reinterpret "student". One could go for post graduation studies, M.Phil, PhD, Post doc... and even then... still never finish studying. Take "any" scientist as an example/. The universe contains so much knowledge, it is virtually impossible for a human being to finish studying all.

                  But I am glad that I have the intellectual honestly of admitting this fact, thus the gap of my knowledge instead of being like people who claim Mastery but fail to provide any evidence for any claim.

                  May God increase us in knowledge and wisdom.

                  Peace
                  ------------- Student of Allah

                  keep patience, give some time, u will get every thing u are asking for...

                  btw- do u talk too much in real life as well? elektro

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                    Zhang
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                    keep patience, give some time, u will get every thing u are asking for...

                    btw- do u talk too much in real life as well? elektro

                    I'm so confused...first you say you are a Qur'anist, then you claim that Al was the rightful sucessor of the Prophet? How is this possible when Al used Hadith to justify his superior authority over Abu Bakr and Umar? o

                    That comment to student was pretty rude, are you this hypocritical in real life as well?

                    I hope we will be guided to the right path, wherever that may be. pr

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                      AliHuzaifa
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                      comment to student was a JOKE, I already told her peace

                      and YES Ali(s) was/is the true successor of Muhammed(s) ...and NO HADITH is actually required to make out ALI(s) was superior not just over abu,usman and umar, but over the all possible MUSLIMS and MOMEEN/ASHAAB present during time of MUHAMMED(s) he was the best person to be the leader of UMMAH after prophet Muhammed(s) .

                      not just because the HADITHS says this, but coz he leaded a GREAT LIFE ACCORDING TO QURAAN.

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                        good_logic
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                        Peace AliHuzaifa.

                        Quote not just because the HADITHS says this, but coz he leaded a GREAT LIFE ACCORDING TO QURAAN.

                        Please give the verses from Qoran that support your sstatement above.

                        Peace.

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                          I'm so confused...first you say you are a Qur'anist, then you claim that Al was the rightful sucessor of the Prophet? How is this possible when Al used Hadith to justify his superior authority over Abu Bakr and Umar?

                          That comment to student was pretty rude, are you this hypocritical in real life as well?

                          I hope we will be guided to the right path, wherever that may be. pr

                          Dear Zhang,

                          This is exactly what I have been twittering on about over the last few days. We seem to have an infiltration of pro-hadith folk. It is a perfectly legitimate aim to want to come here and debate even with differing views. That is partially what this forum is for. However, I find it slightly odd when folk claim to follow the principle of Qur'an alone, yet are so truculently defensive to everything directly hadith related or, by inference. Why purport to be something and then act so bellicose in defence of the complete opposite to the extent of making personal attacks. It is yet another of life's great mysteries. giveup

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                            salam,
                            TO me he seems to have true mannerisms and characteristics of typical hadither,, good in asking questions, poor in grasping the truth, extremely rude, no respect for logic, good in digging trivialities or i may be wrong,, may be he is just confused and hard to let go of old habits.
                            I reserve my opinion most of the time and love to read and learn from all opinions and arguments,, i guess whoever follow quran will find him a bit to much offensive and rude.

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                              Dear Zhang,

                              This is exactly what I have been twittering on about over the last few days. We seem to have an infiltration of pro-hadith folk. It is a perfectly legitimate aim to want to come here and debate even with differing views. That is partially what this forum is for. However, I find it slightly odd when folk claim to follow the principle of Qur'an alone, yet are so truculently defensive to everything directly hadith related or, by inference. Why purport to be something and then act so bellicose in defence of the complete opposite to the extent of making personal attacks. It is yet another of life's great mysteries. giveup

                              Salaam es,

                              No no.. it is not like that... There is no Ali mentioned in alQuraan.. but you might have missed noticing that he is talking about himself whenever he is talking about ALI-huzaifa.

                              May Allah guide us to His only path pr
                              mmKhan

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                                salam,
                                TO me he seems to have true mannerisms and characteristics of typical hadither,, good in asking questions, poor in grasping the truth, extremely rude, no respect for logic, good in digging trivialities or i may be wrong,, may be he is just confused and hard to let go of old habits.
                                I reserve my opinion most of the time and love to read and learn from all opinions and arguments,, i guess whoever follow quran will find him a bit to much offensive and rude.

                                Salaam makk,

                                Red part Yes, I agree with you 100% handshake

                                May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
                                mmKhan

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                                  Released
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                                  Peace

                                  I have already let the moderators know about this AliHufaiza, as I suspect, that we're getting an infiltration of pro-Hadith folk. This guy has yet to supply us with any verses from the Quran that support any of his outlandish claims.

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                                    good_logic
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                                    Peace All.

                                    We should not worry too much. God knows who rejects His scripture;Follows hadiths; Follows whatever they choose to follow. Ignore

                                    If their rejection gets to be too much for you, you should know that even if you dug a tunnel through the earth, or climbed a ladder into the sky, and produced a miracle for them (they still would not believe as you do). Had God willed, He could have guided them, unanimously. Therefore, do not behave like the ignorant ones.

                                    Let us show we have tolerance.

                                    Peace.

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                                      Peace,

                                      I don't find AliHuzaifa offensive at all, he has a right to his point of view, this is a forum and all should be welcome
                                      who obey the rules. Maybe in his opinion some forum members are offensive to him.
                                      Let's be tolerant.

                                      There shall be no compulsion in religion the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.

                                      Peace O0

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                                        AliHuzaifa
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                                        Peace,

                                        I don't find AliHuzaifa offensive at all, he has a right to his point of view, this is a forum and all should be welcome
                                        who obey the rules. Maybe in his opinion some forum members are offensive to him.
                                        Let's be tolerant.

                                        There shall be no compulsion in religion the right way is now distinct from the wrong way. Anyone who denounces the devil and believes in GOD has grasped the strongest bond; one that never breaks. GOD is Hearer, Omniscient.

                                        Peace O0

                                        I have trust in ALLAH, and I know even if whole world goes against HAQ, few sensible brains wil always stick to message of TRUTH.

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                                          Peace All.

                                          We should not worry too much. God knows who rejects His scripture;Follows hadiths; Follows whatever they choose to follow. Ignore

                                          If their rejection gets to be too much for you, you should know that even if you dug a tunnel through the earth, or climbed a ladder into the sky, and produced a miracle for them (they still would not believe as you do). Had God willed, He could have guided them, unanimously. Therefore, do not behave like the ignorant ones.

                                          Let us show we have tolerance.

                                          Peace.

                                          When I grow up, I want to be just like "good logic". group

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