Why did God reveal the Quran through a messenger?
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Salamun Alaykum,
I was just wondering, the Quran at several places mentions how it is clear, and fully explained, and easy etc. then why did God use a messenger to give us the Quran, I mean, I don't know if this is a bad example, no offense, but, He could have just send down the book as a whole without any median right?
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Individually revealed us, gathered a group of people at some point in time, and collectively addressed some part of humanity and given them the book to pass it down generation to generation, sent it down from the sky? I know this is a stupid question, but I just wanted to know, why chose the median of a human?
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How God Communicates With Us
No human being can communicate with GOD except through inspiration, or from behind a barrier, or by sending a messenger through whom He reveals what He wills. He is the Most High, Most Wise.http//www.submission.info/quran/noframes/ch42.html
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Salamun Alaykum,I was just wondering, the Quran at several places mentions how it is clear, and fully explained, and easy etc. then why did God use a messenger to give us the Quran, I mean, I don't know if this is a bad example, no offense, but, He could have just send down the book as a whole without any median right?
Peace Fallen Angel 21098,
Maybe these ayats are helpful.
What prevented the people from believing when the guidance came to them, is their saying, "Did GOD send a human being as a messenger?"
Say, "If the earth were inhabited by angels, we would have sent down to them from the sky an angel messenger."
O0
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It looks as though I am missing something here.
The question is why the wishes and commands from a god and creator are communicated via one of those creations, resulting in a book and not directly. And then people answer the existential question regarding the Koran by quoting the Koran? How does that work?
Why indeed was anything transmitted by a human, a single human?
Why not "send down" 7 billion books, which are capable of automatically showing the text the reader understands, in his native language?
Why not set the golden tablets, the originals, into the desert next to Mecca?
Why not transmit the contents telepathically so everyone understands it without having to read or rely on translations and error-prone interpretations by humans?
Why not hard-wire it into humans like every human understand a smile?
Why indeed first dictate a book which was written trillions of years earlier commanding a praying direction or allowing alcohol and only when this proves to be a problem change the contents?
Why include parts which humans don't understand?
Why create humans 200,000 years ago and only start supplying guidance very recently? -
Peace StopS.
If you are asking all them questions you might as well add
Why are we being tested?
Because what you are asking , if it became reality, would render humans being tested in this life pointless.
We might as well ask God to come down with the Angels and show themselves.
We have all got till the day of judgement to ponder your questions. Then you will know for sure why.
Peace.
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It looks as though I am missing something here.
Salaam StopS,
I think you do
The question is why the wishes and commands from a god and creator are communicated via one of those creations, resulting in a book and not directly. And then people answer the existential question regarding the Koran by quoting the Koran? How does that work?
RED Why? If it was you then maybe you would be right, depends on you from where you want your information. But because it's Fallen Angel I am pretty sure that that is not the case, he (Fallen Angel) can proof me wrong if I am wrong about him. I think he is searching for internal answer, at least that is what I hope he was searchinhg for.
Why indeed was anything transmitted by a human, a single human?
Why not "send down" 7 billion books, which are capable of automatically showing the text the reader understands, in his native language?
Why not set the golden tablets, the originals, into the desert next to Mecca?
Why not transmit the contents telepathically so everyone understands it without having to read or rely on translations and error-prone interpretations by humans?
Why not hard-wire it into humans like every human understand a smile?
Why indeed first dictate a book which was written trillions of years earlier commanding a praying direction or allowing alcohol and only when this proves to be a problem change the contents?
Why include parts which humans don't understand?
Why create humans 200,000 years ago and only start supplying guidance very recently?So much assumtiopns in your question. Please, before you ask a question, make sure the question is not based on assumption, that means based on something outside what the Quran teaches. If this was a sunni forum then the questions would be ok, but this is a Quran ONLY forum. So most of your questions don't make sense on this forum.
I am bad in english and in writing, so sorry if my tone and english sounds offended/brutal.
Salaam,
Bender -
peace
Hawkninetynine, Youssef, and Bender, thank you all for providing me those verses, I think I get it now; God can communicate with us through any of three ways He listed, but we shouldn't waste our time on wondering why He chose the particular mean of communicating He has chosen, but focus and understand what is being communicated instead.
In reply to Bender
You are right about me, I was searching for an internal answer from the Quran.
And don't worry, I didn't take your saying of AhlulKitab in a bad way, though at first I was confused and a bit offended, later I realized what you mean ) So no worries
The number is something random I got off the internet.
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peace
Hawkninetynine, Youssef, and Bender, thank you all for providing me those verses, I think I get it now; God can communicate with us through any of three ways He listed, but we shouldn't waste our time on wondering why He chose the particular mean of communicating He has chosen, but focus and understand what is being communicated instead.
Salaam bro,
handshake
In reply to Bender
You are right about me, I was searching for an internal answer from the Quran.
It would be strange if you didn't
And don't worry, I didn't take your saying of AhlulKitab in a bad way, though at first I was confused and a bit offended, later I realized what you mean ) So no worries
handshake
The number is something random I got off the internet.
I think you are someone from code20. 2+1+0+9+8 = 20
salaam,
Bender -
Why create humans 200,000 years ago and only start supplying guidance very recently?
Were you there 200.000 and on since then to know that there was noguidance until very recently?
On the other hand, you should offer your help to God to distribute books, then he might explain Himself why he wouldn't make you distributor or instead make you distributor.
Going back to Fallen Angel, not everybody can receive a message from God directly or even through an angel. We all get messages from God from behind a lot of veils, because we do not have the capacity to receive anyway else. See what it says in in the aya 4.153 quoted by Bender. -we would die, I do not know whether of infarctus or of what if we saw God with one less veil from what we see Him each of us. The Prophets are chosen because they can receive messages without being overpowered by them. They can handle them. We all of us get our measure of God. That is why there is such a long way to return to Him, that is why we ask in the fatiha to return to him by the ascendant path, so that we are spared some of the travails of the return to Him. Prophet do get the shortest way.
Salaam
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I think you are someone from code20. 2+1+0+9+8 = 20
lol no, its not that.
Going back to Fallen Angel, not everybody can receive a message from God directly or even through an angel. We all get messages from God from behind a lot of veils, because we do not have the capacity to receive anyway else. See what it says in in the aya 4.153 quoted by Bender. -we would die, I do not know whether of infarctus or of what if we saw God with one less veil from what we see Him each of us. The Prophets are chosen because they can receive messages without being overpowered by them. They can handle them. We all of us get our measure of God. That is why there is such a long way to return to Him, that is why we ask in the fatiha to return to him by the ascendant path, so that we are spared some of the travails of the return to Him. Prophet do get the shortest way.
Yeah I guess what you're saying is true, it makes sense, thanks ) you always give good replies
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...why did God use a messenger to give us the Quran...He could have just send down the book as a whole...
1793 ...And we will not believe in your ascension unless you bring for us a record that we can study." Say "Glory be to my Lord. Am I anything other than a human messenger!"
1794 And what stopped the people from believing when the guidance came to them, except that they said "Has God sent a human messenger"
1795 Say "If the Earth had Angels walking about in security, We would have sent down to them from heaven an Angel as a messenger."fyi, a record that we can study = book
...without any median...
No one can answer this question. But here are some logical reasons
-God doesn't break his own laws. In order for a book to appear, the law of conservation of energy would be broken
-blah blah blah, list can go on.... i have atleast another reason i can think of, but too lazy to explain it -
Salaam StopS,
I think you do
Writing this without anything else is a bit thin, don't you think?
Why? If it was you then maybe you would be right, depends on you from where you want your information. But because it's Fallen Angel I am pretty sure that that is not the case, he (Fallen Angel) can proof me wrong if I am wrong about him. I think he is searching for internal answer, at least that is what I hope he was searchinhg for.
I am questioning the validity of circular argumentation. If you are only "pretty sure" or you "hope" why comment? Are you providing an answer to my question? If yes, sorry, I don't see it.
So much assumtiopns in your question. Please, before you ask a question, make sure the question is not based on assumption, that means based on something outside what the Quran teaches. If this was a sunni forum then the questions would be ok, but this is a Quran ONLY forum. So most of your questions don't make sense on this forum.
I am bad in english and in writing, so sorry if my tone and english sounds offended/brutal.
Salaam,
BenderNot really. My only assumption is that a book called Koran exists and that it is claimed that it was transmitted bit by bit from a god to an angel to a human to several humans to scribes into a book. That's all.
If your English is not so good that is none of your fault. But I would suggest if you don't understand something that you ask and not assert.
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Peace Stop S,
To reinerate my point to you and others like you is for you to go to the source (Allah and his books)
for the answers to your questions, therein lies your answers. Have you noticed that you keep repeating
the same questions over and over again and coming to the same conclusions?READ QURAN! Afterwards you may not be satisfied with the answers, but at least you will get the
answers from the source.You never answered this question that I asked you
Are there some questions that have no answer?Short list
What happened before the big bang?
What did the big bang bang into?
Where did nothing come from?
Where did God come from?
on and on and on and on.
Peace O0