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can meditation turn into shirk?

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    bluerose
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    i remember there being a thread on how we shouldn't idolize the quran. can the same be said for meditation? if you meditate and get a very peaceful feeling- is it shirk to attribute it to God? is that taking a god other than God?

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      i remember there being a thread on how we shouldn't idolize the quran. can the same be said for meditation? if you meditate and get a very peaceful feeling- is it shirk to attribute it to God? is that taking a god other than God?

      Shirk is associating partners to God?
      Meditation is nothing to do with that. Meditation is a mental excerise to bring your cheotic thoughts to stillness. Meditation is also relaxation. Just as music is a form of meditation and relaxation.

      If you say meditation is shirk then listening to music is shirk -)
      Relaxation is shirk. Smoking is shirk because it relaxes the smokers -)

      Meditation is not worshippng anything but listening to God. Even Muhammad meditated in the caves of mount Hira.

      Regards,

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        bluerose
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        i guess my question is- how do you know that you're actually listening to God... if you think something is God speaking to you, and it actually isn't? perhaps i'm thinking too hard.

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          i guess my question is- how do you know that you're actually listening to God... if you think something is God speaking to you, and it actually isn't? perhaps i'm thinking too hard.

          Listening to God is as analogy to praying to God -)

          In meditation you bring your chaotic thoughts under control.
          You don't think anything. That is the point. Meditation is not thinking -)

          Regards,

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            salgan
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            Peace all

            When does thinking something is shirk become shirk?

            Peace Saleem

            ? twisted twisted shock shock twisted twisted

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              zenje
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              Infact, this is the act of NOT thinking, as Lote pointed out.

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                i guess my question is- how do you know that you're actually listening to God... if you think something is God speaking to you, and it actually isn't? perhaps i'm thinking too hard.

                My question also. People here might know about the 'istikharah', the special shalat that was intended to ask for guidance from God. I've been advised to do istikharah quite a few times in the past, everytime I talk to people that I need to make choices. I tried a few times and honestly I never got that clear guidance, and usually I decide after thinking seriously about the choices outside istikharah, and discussing them with other people. But some people I've spoken to claimed that they got their resolutions after istikharah. Has God spoken to them?

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                  Peace be upon you,

                  What we have to remember is this, no matter what comes to your mind, wethere through a human being, or from something that you cannot determine if it is a thought, or intuition, we must STILL VERIFY IT IN LIFE If it is intuition from the ALL KNOWING who created us and resides within us, then the information will not contradict life and will help you solve your problems, false information will be rejected by this system(deen) of rigid laws. For example, a man once thought that the God told him thee was a "19" based miracle that was suppossed to show us that this reading , minus two verses, is "holy". So we have to always verify any information. There is no excuse of blind belief.

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