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The message of the Qoran; Who gets it?

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    AliHuzaifa
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    well i know few hinduss who keep them self more clean then any Muslim around here, but are they CLEAN in real state? NO

    so I think QURAAN is talking about purity of soul here, but yeah BODY cleaning cant be ignore as well ignore

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      And most surely it is a very great oath if you only knew;
      Most surely it is an honored Quran,
      In a book that is protected
      None shall touch it save the purified ones.

      This is one of my favourite surah's, I read it many times each day. Coincidentally, today, I studied it in more depth and understood it differently from what I had done previously.

      It may be noted that 'tahara' does not mean either this or that. It stands for the entire spectrum of cleanliness including physical cleanliness. The fingerprint of your soul is captured in the book of your deeds and 'tahara' ultimately is the purity of this book. Knowing that you will be judged by this fingerprint, will you not then keep it clean, the entire thing? To keep one part clean and ignore another is the metaphorical not cleaning behind one's ears

      So clean clothing, hands, face, body, feet, they all have their influence. I know I feel great after a shower!

      I agree with OP.

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        unknownuser
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        Every day I am beginning to view things differently. For me, it is coming down to this

        "Stop limiting your faith."

        I am really beginning to view my worship as something bigger than the Toran, Bible and Qu'ran. Islam has a completely different meaning to me. The books aren't rules...they are guidance. The result is that I have been humbled regarding mankind.

        I don't know if I "get it" per anyone elses standards, but for the first time in my life and journey, I really don't care...and that is perfectly fine with me.

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          Bender
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          Every day I am beginning to view things differently. For me, it is coming down to this

          "Stop limiting your faith."

          I am really beginning to view my worship as something bigger than the Toran, Bible and Qu'ran. Islam has a completely different meaning to me. The books aren't rules...they are guidance. The result is that I have been humbled regarding mankind.

          Salaam Amina,

          22 This is the Book in which there is no doubt, a guidance for the righteous.

          I don't know if I "get it" per anyone elses standards, but for the first time in my life and journey, I really don't care...and that is perfectly fine with me.

          What do you mean with the blue?

          Salaam,
          Bender

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            unknownuser
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            Salaam Amina,

            22 This is the Book in which there is no doubt, a guidance for the righteous.

            What do you mean with the blue?

            Salaam,
            Bender

            Bender

            One of the things I hated when I was a christian was that we would tell everyone that we were the right religion, and that if anyone was other than that, they were wrong. It held an air of arrogance...and when I discovered that most of what we were doing was wrong, I really began to detest most of the Christians I knew.

            So then I came to islam and began the mess all over again...do it this way, do it that way...if you don't you are going to hell...red tape everywhere, and based on what? Some cultural and superstitious mess.

            When I say I don't care, I mean this I am more focused on my growth and knowledge than I am telling someone what is right and wrong. I have so much to learn, and I realize I will never know it all. I will grow and learn for the rest of my life, God willing.

            You choose to pray twice a day? Fine with me. Three times a day? Go right on ahead. Five? May God bless you for your level of committment to your worship of Him.

            Your worship is not about my standards or understanding. Only God alone can dictate what that is. He has provided guidance through Quran and the best we can do is ask for understanding and worship wholeheartedly.

            Hope that makes sense.

            Peace,

            Amina

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              Released
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              "Your worship is not about my standards or understanding."

              I agree. I've finally come to the point of where I could care less of someone else's interpretation and their way of doing things. I do get upset when I see what I think is deliberate twisting of certain verses, but nothing more beyond that. When I get too involved in how others have decided to pray, fast, etc..I feel like I am moving away further from my own priorities. I think in regard to ritualistic stuff especially, we all just need to focus on ourselves and our relationship with God. I know I may sound like a Christian when I say "relationship". Though, what I mean is that we need to focus on reading the Quran for ourselves in our free time and and let God guide us as individuals, and then be confident in what we've realized.

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                hawk99
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                Peace scaredmuslimah,

                I don't know if I "get it" per anyone elses standards, but for the first time in my life and journey, I really don't care...and that is perfectly fine with me.

                I agree

                My spiritual growth entailed freeing myself by leaving the baggage of the misrepresentation of what
                God wanted behind. Allah knows who you are and if you are trying to please him or not and on judgement day
                everyone will worry about their own necks.

                Peace O0

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                  Bender
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                  Bender

                  One of the things I hated when I was a christian was that we would tell everyone that we were the right religion, and that if anyone was other than that, they were wrong. It held an air of arrogance...and when I discovered that most of what we were doing was wrong, I really began to detest most of the Christians I knew.

                  So then I came to islam and began the mess all over again...do it this way, do it that way...if you don't you are going to hell...red tape everywhere, and based on what? Some cultural and superstitious mess.

                  When I say I don't care, I mean this I am more focused on my growth and knowledge than I am telling someone what is right and wrong. I have so much to learn, and I realize I will never know it all. I will grow and learn for the rest of my life, God willing.

                  You choose to pray twice a day? Fine with me. Three times a day? Go right on ahead. Five? May God bless you for your level of committment to your worship of Him.

                  Your worship is not about my standards or understanding. Only God alone can dictate what that is. He has provided guidance through Quran and the best we can do is ask for understanding and worship wholeheartedly.

                  Hope that makes sense.

                  Peace,

                  Amina

                  Salaam Amina,

                  Thank you for your answer.
                  I agree, it's better to focus on ourselves. It will save us from stress, headaches and fights.
                  We are all only resposible for our own deeds, so no need to worry or fight with someone else who believes different.
                  I think it's good to share our views, but only with the goal to share.

                  Salaam,
                  Bender

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                    mmkhan
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                    When I say I don't care, I mean this I am more focused on my growth and knowledge than I am telling someone what is right and wrong. I have so much to learn, and I realize I will never know it all. I will grow and learn for the rest of my life, God willing.

                    Salaam Amina,

                    Red Yes, that is always required for everyone of us.

                    Blue No, you don't have to tell anyone say what is right and wrong, but we want you to share your knowledge.

                    I can see that you are no more a "scared"muslimah

                    May Allah increase us in knowledge and guide us to His only path pr
                    mmKhan

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                      unknownuser
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                      Salaam Bender, Released and mmkhan,

                      I am happy to see that you agree with my viewpoint here. I don't know when that understanding and mentality came upon me, but I am so grateful that it did. It has brought my worship of Allah to an entirely new level.

                      And you are right, mmkhan...I am no longer "scared." Al Hamdulilah!

                      -Amina

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                        mmkhan
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                        Salaam Bender, Released and mmkhan,

                        I am happy to see that you agree with my viewpoint here. I don't know when that understanding and mentality came upon me, but I am so grateful that it did. It has brought my worship of Allah to an entirely new level.

                        And you are right, mmkhan...I am no longer "scared." Al Hamdulilah!

                        -Amina

                        Salaam ScaredMuslimah,

                        Red MashaAllah! That is a great news. May Allah keep you always believing and happy pr

                        mmKhan

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