Entering The Hidden Book - - - - - - - - - -> inshaa allaah

StopS

What would you see if you were in an enclosed room and the lights were switched off or the power suddenly failed? What would you see?
What would you see if the earth upon which you live and the sun and the moon and the stars and everything else in the universe and the rest of existence were suddenly to disappear? What do you think you would see? If you could see.
You did not define "enclosed room", so if the walls are see-through I would see everything outside. If the walls have windows I would see whatever is outside the window. Since you stipulated the lights inside were on it must have been night-time, so I would see the city lights outside.
You did not define any secondary parameters, so I would see the same as I see on every overcast and moonless night. Street lamps, illuminated displays, Shops, apartments, houses, cars, like any night. The lack of gravity or photons would not have an immediate effect on our power supply or human eyes.

al-amiyr

You did not define "enclosed room", so if the walls are see-through I would see everything outside. If the walls have windows I would see whatever is outside the window. Since you stipulated the lights inside were on it must have been night-time, so I would see the city lights outside.
You did not define any secondary parameters, so I would see the same as I see on every overcast and moonless night. Street lamps, illuminated displays, Shops, apartments, houses, cars, like any night. The lack of gravity or photons would not have an immediate effect on our power supply or human eyes.

Congratulations Mr StopS! The most logical thing you said so far. I normally do define it to my visible audience. I gathered that anyone will understand what was meant. But I agree that one must be as precise as one can if there could be a misunderstanding.

IAMOP

Peace,

At first I didn't really feel this was going anywhere from reading the predecessor thread but part 5 is exceedingly interesting. Now I do not know what you mean about certain things as regards the association of the letters with fundamental vibrations. In ancient traditions the fundamental sound is known of course as "OM" or "AUM".

You are clearly coming from a point of wisdom that perhaps a lot of people do not see. However I still do not have enough information to know whether you are coming from a point of certain truth or merely numerology.

It is true that every letter has an intrinsic meaning. The meaning is beyond human comprehension not because these meanings are inaccessible to us but because the sheer complexity of the universe makes it hard to find the precise meaning. The letter "a" has a numerical correlate as does any other shape. This would fit into our equations of physics as a subunit of the input to such functions such as the Schrodinger equation or Einstein's field equations. So in that sense certainly all letters have intrinsic meanings bestowed on them by their inherent reality/nature, just as the number 2 signifies two-ness even though the literal number '2' is itself merely a shape rather than 'two-ness' itself. This idea is analogous to the concept of Plato's Forms. If you are saying that 'umm ul-kitab' is an infinite repository of knowledge then I might agree.

As for the infinite dark void you are talking about, I have been there myself. This is called "nirvikalpa samadhi" and it is actually a common phenomenon for spiritual seekers to enter and exit that "room". With practice and determination a person can permanently abide in that room while still awake in this life; such a state is known as 'sahaja samadhi'. The Sufis have their own such word for these states too.

Anyway, God knows best as to who is telling the truth. peace

al-amiyr

If you did not read and follow from Post 1 you would not know what this thread is all about.

l - - - - - - - - - - > r - - - - - - - - - -> n - - - - - - - - - - > m - - - - - - - - - ->

the Book (al-kitaab) Post 6
The Book (al_kitaab)mental perceptions and visions for humanity ... in order for them to think of and bear in mind.

salaam plus to all those who have responded. I will get back to all inshaa allaah.

For now before we continue, two bits of information are required to be known for those who do not know it as yet.
1)- I need to explain something of the Qur'aan and its mysterious letters which have perplexed the minds of all who became aware of and wondered about it. For this I
will make another thread so that the two subjects can be studied separately although they become one and the same in the Book (al-kitaab).
2)- I have to give a basic idea of the main classification of the sounds of human speech. Remember that this is just basic. You can have a good look at the diagram below and
see how the letters have been grouped. Its knowledge is important for a greater appreciation of the Book (al-kitaab). In posts to come we will see how ALLAAH - ELOHIYM
brought these sounds into existence and what they all mean inshaa allaah.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.genlet.png

To be continued inshaa allaah(if ALLAAH _ ELOHIYM - GOD had willed).

If you wish you may say something or confirm to continue.

GODsubmitter

confirmed

IAMOP

This is going in a very interesting direction eat

faruk

Post 6 is too short. Please in each post give a bit more new information. Any way confirmed. Pls continue.

al-amiyr

salaam+ to all

After sixteen hours working very hard to get the lessons done, I haven't succeeded to complete tonight's lessen to my satisfaction. I hope to upload after a few hours rest another three posts inshaa allaah. You have a lot of homework to do as well. There are coming very exciting things.

Thanks to all
+salaam

noble

Bro al-amiyr, salam warahmah...

pure thought (silence - internal perceptions - images - structures in the mind) <---> vocal nominalisation (communication - talk - gossip) <---> action induction (materialisation - manifestation - experimentation) <---> recording translation (consolidation - memorisation - repetition - automation)

just a diagram about my take on these matters...

please proceed...

al-amiyr

If you did not read and follow from Post 1 you would not know what this thread is all about.

aL iL uL Laa Liy Luw aLLaa aLLiy aLLuw

the Book (al-kitaab) Post 7
The Book (al_kitaab)mental perceptions and visions for humanity ... in order for them to think of and bear in mind.

Let us continue

Here is some information about the letter L that will soon come to have the name Laam.

the L represents the primal state; The Reality.
it was not something created nor is it something that will be destroyed.
it does not have a beginning, a middle or an end.
nothing before it and nothing after.
it is infinite-dimensional; containing all dimensions.
it is immeasurable but all measurements can be taken in it.
it is motionless but all motions can occur in it.
it is the infinite dark/black matterless spaceless timeless absolute void.
It represents the infinite Mind of ALLAAH ELOHIYM GOD wherein dwells His rational thought or ruwh (Spirit) represented by r.
At this point in the state, ALLAAH was undefined and did not have a name. He was by Himself and only He alone knew of Himself. Besides His existence there was nothing; Besides the non existence of everything, even nothing had non existence. Both nothing as well as everything else were not anything but what He brought into existence - Praise be to my Lord, whose Praises are unconfined by any limits. Now the great fools of today want to declare His non existence, as if they possess the knowledge and the right to make such proclamations and declarations. But their days are numbered and their fates will be sealed if they do not hurry in repentance from this misguided ignorance.

Let us repeat again from the introduction what was said before and then after that see how ALLAAH activated His rational thought or ruwh (Spirit) from rest to bring forth the infinite one-dimensional number line.

Lo and behold!

It ALL began by His wish and command and then

+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+

-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-1-

and from them

the whole invisible matterless one-dimensional number line

represented by Laam->

came into being in the infinite-dimensional L

-thousands and millions and billions of numbers one after the other without end.

(Laam-> in the L <->L containing the Laam-&gt

Have you seen and observed the chart in post 6 with the various letters. Without going into greater detail, have you seen how the letters are paired. That in itself is a great field of knowledge covering all of human speech. We will still get to the point what all those letters mean. But for now, I want you to look at the two liquid phonemes l and r.

Let us utter those sounds! Do it practically! Say!
the l first;
l l l l l l l l l l
then next the r;
r r r r r r r r r r
then utter the following sequence!
l l l l l l l l l l r r r r r r r r r r l l l l l l l l l l r r r r r r r r r r l l l l l l l l l l r r r r r r r r r r

One would never say without good examination that those two letters go together. You can easily see that b and p is a pair; v and f; d and t; and so forth. If you should ask a little child who just began to speak and said to him or her say 'run', that child is most likely to say 'lun' instead of run. Likewise do the same for all sounds containing the r. Even across languages one will find these interchanges e.g. the word 'sleep'
In the Xhosa language (that of President Nelson Mandela of South Africa) one says lala,
but in the Shona language (that of President Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe) one says rara.

l is continuous like a straight line __________________________
r breaks like a dashed lined - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

If you uttered r r r r r r r r r r and then took your finger to stop the tongue from vibrating by pressing it against the upper gum (the alveolar ridge) just behind the teeth - l l l l l l l l l l will be sounded.

In the Book (al-kitaab) the r arises from the l or in other words the l gives rise to the r. When r is inactive then it is in a state of rest within the l. This is the zero state.

In the Book (al-kitaab) the r arises from the l or in other words the l gives rise to the r. When r is inactive then it is in a state of rest within the l. This is the zero state. Let us continue and see some of the actions of r

Thus far we mentioned some consonants (which all shall be explained in posts to follow). Next! What are the vowels and what do they represent? I advise you at this point to read through the other thread The Quraan Learn To Read It Almost Immediately to have some idea about the Arabic language of the Qur'aan. Here is a summary extract.

The Arabic language of the Qur'aan which is a detailed explanation of the Book (al-kitaab) consists of an alphabet of 28 letters (consonants) plus one special letter called alif; 3 short vowels written above or below the consonantal letters, which can be extended into 3 long vowels using the 3 universal letters alif (a), waaw (W), and yaa (Y); and two important diphthongs ay and aw. From here the entire structure of the language is build upon a well designed arrangement.

Below is a selection of 13 of the 29 Qur'aanic Arabic letters with their English equivalents. Learn them well or at least constantly refer to them because they are important for now.

Can you identify where the l is? Just look above the English equivalent on the above chart.

Can you identify where the r is? Again just look above the English equivalent on the above chart.

You would do well if you could memorize those two letters. If possible learn to write them. Remember to begin from right to left and start from top to bottom when writing.

Here is the whole Arabic Alphabet (consonants only). Just have a look at it. Remember to read ( in this case look) from right to left. Everyone of these letters are among the multi-dimensional configurations.
I am going to explain to you the meaning of all of them. You will find that they are very easy to learn. Just follow the sequence and don't be in a hurry. By the time you have known the meaning of about seven of them you will begin to realize many things that you have wondered about all your life.
You will see why the One who created everything is called ALLAAH and why his system of obedience and direction is called Islaam. You will see it with your own eyes. These letters are going to come alive in your mind and a great realization will overcome you. You yourself will become witness to it.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/Arabic Alphabet1.png

Below is a chart I drew today about the l and the r. At the moment nothing is happening but you will see what happens when the r arises from the l to create the world. The r is the universal operator by which ALLAAH brings forth the world. It is the ruwh or spirit of ALLAAH that is His active agent in the creation.

Take note of both the l in Arabic as well as the l in English. Did you see that they look similar. If the l in Arabic was turned around then you would identify it as an l in English. Another observation is to have a good look at the r. Let us enlarge it to have a better look.
What do you observe?
A vertical line with an arc coming out at the higher end of the vertical line. This vertical line is none other than the l. The arc is the r. It is arising out of the l. You will see the same thing with the Arabic l. It has an Arabic r coming out of it.r
In the next post I will show you how the r becomes an n and out of the n comes the r again to make an m and out of the m r arises through a distance called s in the l to make the nmrls = numerals. Don't concentrate on this brief descriptions that I gave here because they are going to be clearly explained inshaa allaah. I gave you a lesson via English.

http//www.theholytablemountain.net/K.lr.png

Before we can go further we must understand what the vowels are. They cause movement and are movers. Here is a brief description. In the next post I shall give the illustrations. Then the real action shall begin inshaa allaah.

Functions of the vowels.
The vowels a - i - u represent motions.
a = going out motion (from the beginning point)
i = coming in motion (from the end point)
u = going out motion;coming in motion; going in and out motion (from any point)

A little brief summary before all the action.

Meanings of the Consonants
This you should learn as we enter deeper into the unfolding of the Book (al-kitaab). I have already given two Arabic consonants l and r to be learned. The others will follow.

I will now go forth to present a number of graphical illustrations, from the information presented above, to show how ALLAAH - ELOHIYM brought into existence the Umm (Mother, Matrix, Source) of the Book (al-kitaab) and then the Book (al-kitaab) and then by His command the Universe came into existence. Learn it well. To be continued thereafter with full detailed explanations... in shaa'a allaah.

1)- The L ( l )-State - the infinite dark black matterless spaceless timeless void (emptiness).

2)- The R ( r ) the active universal operator within the motionless L responsible for bringing into being physical existence. It represents the Ruwh (Spirit) of ALLAAH - ELOHIYM as well as His Thought. The Presence of the R is referred to as the Presence of ALLAAH - ELOHIYM.

3)- The AB-State - the fixed 'Center' of ABsolute Being representing the whole of the infinite dark black matterles spaceless timeless void and possessing infinite internalism as well as infinite externalism .

If you could run through what was said above carefully because in the next post plus the journey into the Hidden Book (al-kitaab) shall begin. We shall be presented with step by step easy to understand graphic presentations.

Thanks for all who have contributed. I take note of all of them and in time we can discuss all of them.
inshaa allaah = if ALLAAH - ELOHIYM - God had willed (the time).

faruk

confirmed. Pls continue.

IAMOP

Thus far, on the fine line between numerology and science. This is the first honest attempt at investigating the very nature of nature itself that I have seen in my short life. Many know about squares and triangles but few seem to think out loud as to why squares square and triangles triangle.

Ultimately, it is God who draws these letters and gives them the shapes we use. Ultimately these letters correspond to flow patterns of neurons and ultimately it is God who engineers the neurons. While we think that we come up with new words and form them, it is God who has defined the syntax, it is God who has drawn our faces and hands, it is God who draws and colours our eyes, it is God who inspires us at times to create novel words men have not used beforehand, and it is none but God who directs your hand to move that pen. So it is true indeed He taught man by the Pen, that which he did not know.

So certainly this writing has a definite grounding in rigorous science, something that the 19 code numerology did not have in any way shape or form.

I am looking forward to this because if not the certain truth, then it is at least a goodly attempt to delve into depths of science beyond words. We're venturing into Godel's territory. Can you provide a system that encompasses other systems and yet is self-consistent, explaining itself? I believe that the signature of God's handiwork lies in the disproof of Godel's incompleteness theorem and that should certainly be present in the quran. And even though such a disproof would be plain and self-evident, no man could produce a similar work.

Please continue.

Bender

Salaam al-amiyr,

I was reading a little bit what you had to say.
I am very sorry but it's not more then your own imagination which is not based on The Quran.
You write a lot of things that are not in The Quran and presents them as if they are from The Quran.
You have written so much about this hidden book, but strangely enough so less ayaats.

Furthermore you say things about Allah where you have no knowledge of &

Salaam,
Bender

ps there is no hidden book

al-amiyr

Salaam al-amiyr,

I was reading a little bit what you had to say.
I am very sorry but it's not more then your own imagination which is not based on The Quran.
You write a lot of things that are not in The Quran and presents them as if they are from The Quran.
You have written so much about this hidden book, but strangely enough so less ayaats.

Furthermore you say things about Allah where you have no knowledge of &

Salaam,
Bender

ps there is no hidden book

salaam to you Bender

You said you read a bit and that is the reason why you do not see. It is one hundred percent expected. I just hope that you will not miss out on something.
I have already received more than ten messages from members of this forum that they are following and fully understanding. Don't be among those who will deny the aayaat of ALLAAH. He promised their coming. It will be as clear as the seeing of one's eyes if one wants to see inshaa allaah.

salaam-peace

Ayisha

salaam+ to all

After sixteen hours working very hard to get the lessons done, I haven't succeeded to complete tonight's lessen to my satisfaction. I hope to upload after a few hours rest another three posts inshaa allaah.

I don't understand why all this time spent when you have already said you have been teaching this for years and it's been on numerous forums already. Surely all the prep is done and it's a matter of copy and paste now?

peace

IAMOP

I don't understand why all this time spent when you have already said you have been teaching this for years and it's been on numerous forums already. Surely all the prep is done and it's a matter of copy and paste now?

peace

Just hope it doesn't end up in promoting some silly website or some other ploy to make money. I see it happen on other forums.

al-amiyr

I don't understand why all this time spent when you have already said you have been teaching this for years and it's been on numerous forums already. Surely all the prep is done and it's a matter of copy and paste now?

peace

salaam

Not really. I am reworking most of what I am posting in this thread. This will be the furthest that I have taken the Book (al-kitaab) on a forum inshaa allaah.

salaam

StopS

It represents the infinite Mind of ALLAAH ? ELOHIYM ? GOD wherein dwells His rational thought or ruwh (Spirit) represented by r.
At this point in the state, ALLAAH was undefined and did not have a name. He was by Himself and only He alone knew of Himself. Besides His existence there was nothing; Besides the non existence of everything, even nothing had non existence. Both nothing as well as everything else were not anything but what He brought into existence - Praise be to my Lord, whose Praises are unconfined by any limits. Now the great fools of today want to declare His non existence, as if they possess the knowledge and the right to make such proclamations and declarations. But their days are numbered and their fates will be sealed if they do not hurry in repentance from this misguided ignorance.

The mind of a god represented as an r. Interesting concept, I am sure.

I have no idea who exactly the great fools are, who declare something, but I, as an atheist demand to be shown evidence for something, before I accept it as something I can believe.

I do NOT declare anything, but ask.

Let?s take a look at just this one paragraph and see what I would want answered

At this point in the state, ALLAAH was undefined

What is ?the state?? Is this a sloppy, grammatical mistake or intended deception?

If Allah was undefined then who or what has defined Allah since? Wasn?t Allah always in existence and defined?

ALLAAH ? did not have a name

So what is Allah?s name today? Does Allah have one known name? Or is this confusing names with attributes?

He was by Himself

Does that mean there are more gods today? Are there maybe assistants?

Besides His existence there was nothing

How would any human know that? How can a human know at what time in the history of a god angels were created? Or maybe some other beings which are not mentioned which humans can?t grasp.

non existence of everything, even nothing

The non-existence of nothing would mean ?something?. Because then ?non-existence? must have existed.

whose Praises are unconfined by any limits

What is an unconfined limit? What is a limit for praise ? when it is unconfined?

Does that mean that no matter how much this god is praised it makes no difference and has no impact? But then why would humeans and Jinn be created to praise if there is no confined limit?

today want to declare His non existence

If something does not exist, how can you ?declare? the non-existence of this?

Is it reasonably possible to declare the non-existence of elves? No, I can just suspend judgement until I have evidence for their existence. The same goes for any claim concerning a god.

But their days are numbered

How do you know this? Do you have information the rest of humanity is not privy to?

misguided ignorance

What is that ?
If you are ignorant you lack knowledge on something.
If you are guided you have received information.
In the case of misguided it is erroneous information.
But in either case I have information. Something I am lacking if I am ignorant.
So in my eyes ?misguided ignorance? is an oxymoron.

I've just looked at one short paragraph. I wonder if someone who really knows Islam and the Koran would go over this with a finer comb what they would see....

Bender

salaam to you Bender

You said you read a bit and that is the reason why you do not see. It is one hundred percent expected. I just hope that you will not miss out on something.
I have already received more than ten messages from members of this forum that they are following and fully understanding. Don't be among those who will deny the aayaat of ALLAAH. He promised their coming. It will be as clear as the seeing of one's eyes if one wants to see inshaa allaah.

salaam-peace

Salaam al-amiyr,

I fully understand what you are saying but I fully do not agree with what you are saying.

Just an example

Here is some information about the letter L that will soon come to have the name Laam.

the L represents the primal state; The Reality.
it was not ?something? created nor is it ?something? that will be destroyed.
it does not have a beginning, a middle or an end.
nothing before it and nothing after.
it is infinite-dimensional; containing all dimensions.
it is immeasurable but all measurements can be taken in it.
it is motionless but all motions can occur in it.
it is the infinite dark/black matterless spaceless timeless absolute void.

Can you give an ayaat(s) to support these claims please. If you can then I am with you, if not then I disagree.

another example

It represents the infinite Mind of ALLAAH ? ELOHIYM ? GOD wherein dwells His rational thought or ruwh (Spirit) represented by r.

Do you have any idea what you are saying here? The L represents the infinite Mind of ALLAAH &

Salaam,
Bender

al-amiyr

Salaam al-amiyr,

I fully understand what you are saying but I fully do not agree with what you are saying.

Just an example

Here is some information about the letter L that will soon come to have the name Laam.

the L represents the primal state; The Reality.
it was not ?something? created nor is it ?something? that will be destroyed.
it does not have a beginning, a middle or an end.
nothing before it and nothing after.
it is infinite-dimensional; containing all dimensions.
it is immeasurable but all measurements can be taken in it.
it is motionless but all motions can occur in it.
it is the infinite dark/black matterless spaceless timeless absolute void.

Can you give an ayaat(s) to support these claims please. If you can then I am with you, if not then I disagree.

another example

It represents the infinite Mind of ALLAAH ? ELOHIYM ? GOD wherein dwells His rational thought or ruwh (Spirit) represented by r.

Do you have any idea what you are saying here? The L represents the infinite Mind of ALLAAH &

Salaam,
Bender

+salaam Bender

How would you answer a child or a person who never knew that the concept of writing exists and were to ask you this question. Why is this mark an A? or this one an L? What or how would you answer?