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HOW WILL THE UNIVERSE END?

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    Jafar
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    In agreement with you, Science takes us closer to the truth everyday. This methodology is awesome, it isnt biased , it doesnt care about what your personal belief is.

    The great thing about 'scientific methodology' and 'scientific culture' over 'dogmatic sectarian/religious culture' is that everything are free to be questioned, re-questioned and re-examined.
    There are no such thing as "BLASPHEMY" in science...
    Scientific culture really applies the basic fundamental concept being told in the Quran..
    "There are no compulsory in Belief as Truth stands out clear from error". (2256)

    Historical example
    Copernicus convicted with 'blasphemy' due to his theory of 'Sun as the center of the Universe' against the sectarian priest dogma of "Earth as the center of the universe". As it turns out BOTH Hypothesis are WRONG! Both Sun and Earth is NOT the center of the universe.

    As human learned more they realize that the question itself need to be re-examined.. to determine the 'center of the universe' we need to define "What is the Universe" which is the focus of cosmology / astronomical science at the moment. There are probability that there are no such thing as the 'center of the universe'.

    Having said that;
    The 'big crunch' is the logical end to the 'big bang'..
    Contracted universe is the logical end to the 'expanding universe'.
    This is the 'current trend'.. however it's (always) open for re-questioning and re-examination.
    And nobody will get charged of "Blasphemy" and/or received death threat by doing so...

    Salam / Peace

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      silverquin
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      When the horn's blown, the universe end.

      And on the Day when the horn is blown, then those in the heavens and the Earth will be in terror except for whom God wills. And all shall come to Him humbled. (2787)
      http//www.alquran-indonesia.com/web/uploads/files/unihorn.jpg

      Get what i mean?

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        KDC501
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        When the horn's blown, the universe end.

        And on the Day when the horn is blown, then those in the heavens and the Earth will be in terror except for whom God wills. And all shall come to Him humbled. (2787)
        http//www.alquran-indonesia.com/web/uploads/files/unihorn.jpg

        Get what i mean?

        Very interesting take on this verse. The horn in the Quran could possibly describe the shape of the universe itself. In any case we can never be certain about this interpretation. But I still like it.

        Peace,

        Kevin.

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          noshirk
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          peace

          whatever says the science (big crunch or eternal expansion utils atoms disaggregation), universe is the GOD of atheits and should die, like all other false divinities.
          Only the face of GOD Should remain
          2888 And do not call besides God any god, there is no god except He. Everything will fade away except His face. To Him is the judgment, and to Him you will be returned

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            renztubz
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            Nobody knows when will the end of the world comes.

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              hawk99
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              Peace,

              Flat Universe
              by John Carl Villanueva on August 8, 2009

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              Much of the measurements made that strive to determine the shape of the Universe point to one picture ? we are living in a flat universe. This was first declared by a group of scientists working on the Boomerang project and later on confirmed with sharp accuracy by the WMAP (Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe).

              Both the Boomerang experiment and the WMAP draw their conclusions by mapping out cosmic microwave background radiation (CMBR), a faint background glow that is found to be almost the same in all directions. The presence of the CMBR is the most convincing proof that catapulted the Big Bang way ahead of other cosmological theories.

              The Big Bang theory has spewed forth theories that strive to predict the way the Universe will end. Among them are the Big Crunch, Big Bounce, Big Freeze, and Big Rip. All four of them are dependent on a handful of factors, and one of them is the Universe?s shape.

              Read more http//www.universetoday.com/37029/flat-universe/#ixzz2EmpqAdq1

              A flat universe appears to be more agreeable with the scenario presented by Quran.

              The big crunch seem consistant with ayat 21104

              The Day when We shall roll up the heavens as a recorder rolleth up a written scroll. As We began the first creation, We shall repeat it. (It is) a promise (binding) upon Us. Lo! We are to perform it.

              Peace O0

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                StopS
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                The red highlighting above is from me.

                How about the verse 21104 below?

                The Day when We shall roll up the heavens as a recorder rolleth up a written scroll. As We began the first creation, We shall repeat it. (It is) a promise (binding) upon Us. Lo! We are to perform it.

                Peace,
                Khalil

                I think this refers to rain clouds.

                In reality, nobody knows yet, because we can't measure dark matter. That's why we have several models, the least possible today is what was termed the Big Crunch or Big Bounce in the 90's. Space - not gravitationally bound objects - is expanding at an acceleration rate and nobody today knows what the ratio between gravity and inflation is.

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                  one-9-one
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                  ..several models,..

                  Which one will you go for?

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                    StopS
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                    Which one will you go for?

                    That's what I said In reality, nobody knows yet, because we can't measure dark matter.

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                      one-9-one
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                      That's what I said In reality, nobody knows yet, because we can't measure dark matter.

                      Who is we?

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                        StopS
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                        Who is we?

                        If you would care to take things in context, you would have noticed that the topic is about the Universe and its ending and since the beginning people like "Student of Allah" have defined it as "our general understanding of the universe" and "Jafar" said that "Science is a methodology" and "Abdul-Hadi" defined it as "Some say", "KDC501" says "we can never be certain", "renztubz" says it's "Nobody knows" so what we are talking about is humanity and the empirical evidence provided by science for the end of the Universe and how the Koran fits into the picture.

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                          Azz
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                          It'd be lame if the world ended before I finished university. I wouldn't wanna die having done nothing but exams and sitting in the library my entire life ;D

                          Jokes aside, has anyone else read this? I haven't read the entirety of Rashad Khalifa's translation of the Quran and I'm kinda wary of the whole '19' thing, but this seems kinda interesting at the very least.

                          In my opinion, it's best not to worry too much about when the world will end. It'd be nice to know when it'll happen, but the scientists and philosiphers capable of possibly putting together an answer could probably better devote their time doing something more useful.

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                            Ahmad_Bilal
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                            Peace.

                            How sure are we that the universe will "end"? The Qur'aan speaks emphatically about the 'day of judgment' occurring sometime in the future, whether near or distant. However, this doesn't mean that the universe will "end" sometime in the future. We can all assume different things in connection with this, but none of us know for sure...

                            Peace,

                            Ahmad

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